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Topic: Fast-Hash-400's 400 GH/s each - page 3. (Read 8108 times)

legendary
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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
May 01, 2013, 09:10:57 PM
#28
Depending on how it all shakes out I might be interested but I refuse to pre-order anything again.  There is no need to gauge interest around here, develop a product that can generate a 'fair' ROI without breaking the bank (or for that matter electricity costs) and you will be swimming in orders before you can upgrade your infrastructure.

Show us something that works and works well and I will show you an avalanche of new business.
legendary
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May 01, 2013, 08:59:32 PM
#27
For now, I will merely eat some
sr. member
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CGWatcher & CGRemote
May 01, 2013, 08:54:32 PM
#26
If these things have not actually been made yet, why 100nm, 45nm, and 28nm processes? Wouldn't you pick one during the design process? You're supposedly designing asics using all three according to your website, so you're designing the first gen at the same time as the second gen and third gen? Or you're designing three separate chips because you have more money and engineers than you know what to do with? A sort of competition between engineering teams to help motivate them, is that it?

Also, under Services, nothing happens when you click on Proven Designs In Our Fash-Hash Series, which I think is appropriate. Nothing happens when you click on any of your services, which may be the most honest thing about this whole scheme. Your domain was first registered in March 2013, but your website claims

Sorry for the delay in answering you post.  Our estimated delivery on our Fast-Hash-XX series (20-80 GHs) is August 2013.  We are purchasing Avalon chips which they say that can be supplies from TSMC is 9-10 weeks.  We are ready have the machines designed, we just need to spin up the Printed Circuit Boards (PCB)s get the Avalon chips and have them installed on the board.  After we receive the boards we would install them in our already design rack-mountable cases.  The rest of the system is off the shelf components which are readily available.  At the same time we will start our 45nm development project.

So you're buying Avalon chips? Why not mention that here? I thought Avalon was 110nm, so now we're on our fourth different process. Then you're designing your own 45nm chips? What about the 28nm chips you have on your website? If you have designed the machines, where are the pictures? Where are pictures of the rack-mountable cases you already designed? Why is your website filled with photos of people in offices and not pictures of those? If you just put the website together I would think you would have put some effort into it before gauging the market for your $30,000 products. Every detail is going to be scrutinized when you're trying to sell something that costs that much money.
hero member
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May 01, 2013, 08:48:18 PM
#25
In regards to your landing page advertisement for "FAST-HASH-XX's":
Claim 80 GH/s from 4 modules, each producing 20GH/s. How can the modules produce 20GH/s if the chips produce 6?


These are our Fast-Hash-XXX series, those are the Fast-Hash-XX series
Are you insinuating you have at least two different chips producing two different hashrates? Last I checked. 6x3=18, and 6x4=24, and neither of those solutions =20
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Miner is priced in BTC at 75, Module upgrades priced in dollars at $1500. Why the discrepancy in pricing mechanism?



Still working on the site.  It will be cleaned up soon.


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You claim the miner is AM3+ compatible, and contains an AMD 8350. Why?


"Fast-Hash Is The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"
The "Gold Standard" would be the most efficient miner possible, not a machine that wastes resources on frivolous chips.
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miner gets 66MH/w, assuming it only uses 1200 of the 1500 watt power supply, 53 if it runs at capacity. (Avalon is 100 if memory serves)

2GB ram, upgradeable to 32GB. Why?

USB 3.0. Why?


Why Not!
Because none of it is necessary, the excess increases initial outlay, and reduces ROI?
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All your product pages are the same placeholder. Why?
" AMC is developing ASIC chips on the 45nm and soon the 28nm process. AMC's ASIC 45nm chips will have fast speeds of 6 to 9 GH/s with low power usage." Do you not have working chips yet? How do you propose to get from no working chips to shipping in 2 months?


That is for me to know and you to find out.
Let me be more blunt. Do you have working chips?
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When clicking "read more" on http://www.virtualminingcorp.com/amc-more.html, the following shows up:

100 Fast-Hash-80's** @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000 (Estimated to be delivered August 2013)

100 Fast-Hash-80's** @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000 (Estimated to be delivered February 2013)

100 Fast-Hash-400's** @ 400 GH/s each for a total of: 40 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 1 board per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$30,000 each for a total of $3,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered March 2014)

100 Fast-Hash-800's** @ 800 GH/s each for a total of: 80 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 2 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$60,000 each for a total of $6,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered May 2013)


There is much, much more, but I think this is enough to answer to for now.

The above is for our mining cooperative.
Are you saying Your mining coop has been running 8TH/s since February, and you're about to bring 80TH/s online?
member
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May 01, 2013, 08:43:31 PM
#24
I also forgot that BFL rig is self contain. Fast hand rig will be rack mount so add additional cost to buy rack and setup etc.... to the final cost.
member
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May 01, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
#23
BFL minirig was $30K for 1.5 Ths . Let say they double the price to $60K for 1.5Ths  . That will be around $40 per Ghs . Fast hand machine is 400Ghs  so 400 x $40 = $16K  .  That would be a fair deal, and a premium price around $20K will be the max that I will pay.
hero member
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Coin Generator
May 01, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
#22
Working prototype demonstration before collecting money?

Just trying to find out what the interest is, not trying to sell anything here.

" 100 Fast-Hash-800's** @ 800 GH/s each for a total of: 80 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 2 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$60,000 each for a total of $6,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered May 2013)" Huh

Delivering in May 2013??


Wrong date should be May 2014, I get that changed.

BFL 2.0
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
#21
Working prototype demonstration before collecting money?

Just trying to find out what the interest is, not trying to sell anything here.

" 100 Fast-Hash-800's** @ 800 GH/s each for a total of: 80 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 2 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$60,000 each for a total of $6,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered May 2013)" Huh

Delivering in May 2013??


Typo, Wrong date should be May 2014, I get that changed.
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
#20
I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.

Yes, you are right, if BFL continues to sell their now 1 TH/s rigs at $30,000, so if that is the case would you buy
at $15,000?

Just trying to see what the interest is here.

I'm not going to buy at a HIGHER price per TH/s than I already have.
I paid $10000 per TH/s.

Thus, I'd be interested in ASIC miners at or below, say, $8000 per TH/s, especially if they draw significantly less power than the BFL ones.
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:25:25 PM
#19
Working prototype demonstration before collecting money?

Just trying to find out what the interest is, not trying to sell anything here.

" 100 Fast-Hash-800's** @ 800 GH/s each for a total of: 80 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 2 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$60,000 each for a total of $6,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered May 2013)" Huh

Delivering in May 2013??
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
May 01, 2013, 08:24:55 PM
#18
I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.

Yes, you are right, if BFL continues to sell their now 1 TH/s rigs at $30,000, so if that is the case would you buy
at $15,000?

Just trying to see what the interest is here.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
May 01, 2013, 08:21:58 PM
#17
Working prototype demonstration before collecting money?

Just trying to find out what the interest is, not trying to sell anything here.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
May 01, 2013, 08:20:26 PM
#16
In regards to your landing page advertisement for "FAST-HASH-XX's":
Claim 80 GH/s from 4 modules, each producing 20GH/s. How can the modules produce 20GH/s if the chips produce 6?


These are our Fast-Hash-XXX series, those are the Fast-Hash-XX series

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Miner is priced in BTC at 75, Module upgrades priced in dollars at $1500. Why the discrepancy in pricing mechanism?



Still working on the site.  It will be cleaned up soon.

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You claim the miner is AM3+ compatible, and contains an AMD 8350. Why?


"Fast-Hash Is The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"

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miner gets 66MH/w, assuming it only uses 1200 of the 1500 watt power supply, 53 if it runs at capacity. (Avalon is 100 if memory serves)

2GB ram, upgradeable to 32GB. Why?

USB 3.0. Why?


Why Not!

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All your product pages are the same placeholder. Why?
" AMC is developing ASIC chips on the 45nm and soon the 28nm process. AMC's ASIC 45nm chips will have fast speeds of 6 to 9 GH/s with low power usage." Do you not have working chips yet? How do you propose to get from no working chips to shipping in 2 months?


That is for me to know and you to find out.

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When clicking "read more" on http://www.virtualminingcorp.com/amc-more.html, the following shows up:

100 Fast-Hash-80's** @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000 (Estimated to be delivered August 2013)

100 Fast-Hash-80's** @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000 (Estimated to be delivered February 2013)

100 Fast-Hash-400's** @ 400 GH/s each for a total of: 40 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 1 board per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$30,000 each for a total of $3,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered March 2014)

100 Fast-Hash-800's** @ 800 GH/s each for a total of: 80 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 2 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$60,000 each for a total of $6,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered May 2013)


There is much, much more, but I think this is enough to answer to for now.

The above is for our mining cooperative.

sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
#15
I paid slightly less than 30K for my [upgrade] order of two BFL SC miniRigs, with an aggregate hash rate of 3 TH/s - so why would I want to pay 30K for a measly 400 GH/s?

An absurd proposition.
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
#14
more wannabe coming up?
legendary
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May 01, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
#13
The website name is a bit funny i think. A hint that the Asics are virtual only? Wink
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:07:24 PM
#12
You left out the option of (0) zero units.

Add the zero - none option
sr. member
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May 01, 2013, 08:06:40 PM
#11
How many units would you buy with this delivery date:

Estimated Delivery July 2013

Specifications:

  • Fast-Hash-400's @ 400 GH/s each
  • 45nm 6 GH/s chips
  • 75 chips per board
  • 1 board per unit
  • expandable to 4 boards
  • expandable to 1.6 TH/s
  • Rack Mountable
  • ~$30,000

See our Web Site:  http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

1.6TH I would buy a unit providing I could actually collect in person and then do a wire transfer or bitocin transfer to the value.

if thats 30k for 400GH unit then not a chance anyone would buy for that as BFL have their units at 1TH for 30k when they re do their design for it

You are right, I forgot about BFL unit, just did the ROI.  Of course, BFL has doubled their prices on all their units, so the 1 TH unit might be $60,000.
legendary
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May 01, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
#10
Working prototype demonstration before collecting money?
hero member
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May 01, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
#9
In regards to your landing page advertisement for "FAST-HASH-XX's":
Claim 80 GH/s from 4 modules, each producing 20GH/s. How can the modules produce 20GH/s if the chips produce 6?

Miner is priced in BTC at 75, Module upgrades priced in dollars at $1500. Why the discrepancy in pricing mechanism?

You claim the miner is AM3+ compatible, and contains an AMD 8350. Why?

miner gets 66MH/w, assuming it only uses 1200 of the 1500 watt power supply, 53 if it runs at capacity. (Avalon is 100 if memory serves)

2GB ram, upgradeable to 32GB. Why?

USB 3.0. Why?

All your product pages are the same placeholder. Why?
" AMC is developing ASIC chips on the 45nm and soon the 28nm process. AMC's ASIC 45nm chips will have fast speeds of 6 to 9 GH/s with low power usage." Do you not have working chips yet? How do you propose to get from no working chips to shipping in 2 months?

When clicking "read more" on http://www.virtualminingcorp.com/amc-more.html, the following shows up:

100 Fast-Hash-80's** @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000 (Estimated to be delivered August 2013)

100 Fast-Hash-80's** @ 80 GH/s each for a total of: 8 TH/s Specifications: 110nm 282 MH/s chip 75 chips per board 4 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$6,000 each for a total of $600,000 (Estimated to be delivered February 2013)

100 Fast-Hash-400's** @ 400 GH/s each for a total of: 40 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 1 board per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$30,000 each for a total of $3,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered March 2014)

100 Fast-Hash-800's** @ 800 GH/s each for a total of: 80 TH/s Specifications: 45nm 6 GH/s chip 75 chips per board 2 boards per unit Estimated retail value @ ~$60,000 each for a total of $6,000,000 (Estimated to be delivered May 2013)


There is much, much more, but I think this is enough to answer to for now.
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