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Topic: [Feature added] Color besides usernames for Ignored by % of established members. - page 7. (Read 27265 times)

vip
Activity: 574
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Don't send me a pm unless you gpg encrypt it.

Since my cryptography apparently failed, I'll say this should be relatively easy.  "Ignore" invokes a handler, which could also PM the author with "your post #23123123 sucks!"  I can do the correlation myself.


But pm spam!  Do you really want to get notifications everytime someone takes you off ignore, reads your post, then reignores you?  Holy false positives, Batman!
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
I just wanted to post something that no one would read.

You failed. I read it.  Wink

It would be interesting feedback for those who are ignored to learn which posts triggered "ignore".  It could be because I called someone a fragrant name, that I maligned their vocation, or that they are bigots.

That would be a nice feature, but I imagine it would be hard to code.
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
You raise a very interesting point, so I guess I stand corrected, there is a function for the button.

I can now identify folks that I have respect for, and find their conversation of merit more easily. If you want to call out the scammers and the fraudsters, then you are pretty much somebody I'm willing to read.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
The list reveals an interesting pattern of groups being ignored.

1) incoherent posters
2) relentless self-promoters
3) ponzi scheme/fraud whistleblowers

I noticed my button get much darker after posting about the scams and scam-enablers (including forum admins). This got much more obvious after I called out Theymos for his role in the matter and his admitted and knowing participation in Pirate's ponzi scheme. If scammer scumbags are using the ignore feature to label those who oppose their scheming, then I leave it to others to decide just how useful the feature is.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032

Your posts are often unnecessarily hostile. I don't blame people for ignoring you. And if someone reads your posts and becomes annoyed, I would like them to see your ignore highlighting and realize they can ignore you rather than start a flame war or complain about how the forum is full of trolls.
administrator
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I adjusted the thresholds.

Old:
Current rules are:
- 0.35% of very-established users ignore you: no public highlight, but a range on your posts that only you can see
- 0.5% of very-established users ignore you: light highlight
- 0.75% of very-established users ignore you: medium highlight
- 1% of very-established users ignore you: dark highlight

New:
Current rules are:
- 0.35% of very-established users ignore you: no public highlight, but a range on your posts that only you can see
- 0.5% of very-established users ignore you: light highlight
- 1% of very-established users ignore you: medium highlight
- 1.5% of very-established users ignore you: dark highlight

Also, I made the light highlight lighter.
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
Damn, I forgot my sarcasm button again.

I was being churlish, and poking a stick at authority. I think the entire thing is a silly joke anyway, see my earlier concept on having a "loyalty" button to play opposite this one. Point being that at least there is some good debate on that list, and depriving yourself of it is a shame.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1722
Sorry theymos, but this has just been revealed to be an utterly useless feature for our community.

Study the folks who are "dark" (and we can set aside the racist undertones of that particular glitch!) and you will find the most interesting people in the community, and certain the most opinionated. Is our goal to have a milquetoast all vanilla community of quiet, polite followers? Or is the purpose of a Bitcoin forum to celebrate bitcoin and explore the very edges of what a paradigm shifting financial innovation it is?

If I want boring and predictable there are literally tens of thousands of online communities that will give you nauseatingly boring. I participate here for the specific reason that there is healthy debate, outrageously polarizing opinion and people actually willing to stand up and believe in something, even when they are obviously disturbed and dead wrong, at least they have the huevos to believe in something.

The ignore button has become the mouthpiece of the intellectually retarded, and the cowardly refuge of those who are not able to form an opinion, preferring to hide behind the skirts of anonymous finger pointing and name calling.

A far more valuable button would be one that shows the interesting "darkies" exactly how many ignores each of the candy ass wimps who use ignore has implemented.

Do you have the moral courage to compile a list of who has the most ignores set to complement this uncalled for nonsense?

Hmmm... your view of this issue may a bit biased as you yourself have quite a few ignores.
The ignore button's purpose is to hide posts of people one does not want to see, given the freedom of expression the forum administration approves of, it is a useful option. I have tried no to use it myself until very recently (zyk and reeses) but I am happy I can now avoid reading their posts. I don't quite agree with your first statement regarding the 'dark' people, sure some of them may be interesting, but a lot of them are trolls who are ignored for a reason.
EDIT: Hue of the ignore button is simply an indicator of the probability that a certain person is a professional forum troll but one should use other measures to judge a person (read their posts and draw one's own conclusions).

sr. member
Activity: 574
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Sorry theymos, but this has just been revealed to be an utterly useless feature for our community.

Study the folks who are "dark" (and we can set aside the racist undertones of that particular glitch!) and you will find the most interesting people in the community, and certain the most opinionated. Is our goal to have a milquetoast all vanilla community of quiet, polite followers? Or is the purpose of a Bitcoin forum to celebrate bitcoin and explore the very edges of what a paradigm shifting financial innovation it is?

If I want boring and predictable there are literally tens of thousands of online communities that will give you nauseatingly boring. I participate here for the specific reason that there is healthy debate, outrageously polarizing opinion and people actually willing to stand up and believe in something, even when they are obviously disturbed and dead wrong, at least they have the huevos to believe in something.

The ignore button has become the mouthpiece of the intellectually retarded, and the cowardly refuge of those who are not able to form an opinion, preferring to hide behind the skirts of anonymous finger pointing and name calling.

A far more valuable button would be one that shows the interesting "darkies" exactly how many ignores each of the candy ass wimps who use ignore has implemented.

Do you have the moral courage to compile a list of who has the most ignores set to complement this uncalled for nonsense?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
I've compiled some updated stats.

There are 1414 very-established users.

You need x ignores for...
Warn: 5
Light: 8
Medium: 11
Dark: 15

I support the suggestion to make the range wider, and I'd even go so far as to make the highlighting scale directly with ignores. Something along the lines of R=255, G=255-<8*ignores>, B=255-<8*ignores>, resulting in a smooth gradient from 0-32 ignores, at which point it's maxed.
It would start to become visible at 5, become obvious at 10, really start to jump out at around 15, and just continue to get darker until 32.
donator
Activity: 1731
Merit: 1008
I've compiled some updated stats.

There are 1414 very-established users.

You need x ignores for...
Warn: 5
Light: 8
Medium: 11
Dark: 15

This list seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm thinking that maybe the threshold for dark highlighting should be moved up, though.

I think all of the thresholds need to be bigger.  It's only 3 ignores from light to medium and another 4 to dark.  I think there should be at least 5 ignores between each group and maybe even 10.
I agree with having larger range, and I'd like to have a first tone start lower (very dim).

Larger range because once someone is flagged as ignored, the exposure to more ignore increase exponentially thus the ranges between color should increase.

What is "Warn" is that visible ?
Depending on the limited time we have reading the forum, having a very light warning for ~5 ignores would allow to skip read some posts.

There are a few of dark users with large quantity of posts that I suspect aren't ignored because of their poor posts but more because of some past controversial posts.

A different threshold of (-1) per 1000 post could be used for established members.    The reason behind this is that users get ignored for many different reasons and the number of post increase the likelihood of conflict and disagreement. Not even mentioning the risk of rogue ignores only to affect someone else reputation (as a competitive advantage).
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
I've compiled some updated stats.

There are 1414 very-established users.

You need x ignores for...
Warn: 5
Light: 8
Medium: 11
Dark: 15

This list seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm thinking that maybe the threshold for dark highlighting should be moved up, though.

I think all of the thresholds need to be bigger.  It's only 3 ignores from light to medium and another 4 to dark.  I think there should be at least 5 ignores between each group and maybe even 10.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
I've compiled some updated stats.

There are 1414 very-established users.

You need x ignores for...
Warn: 5
Light: 8
Medium: 11
Dark: 15

These users have some color:
zyk 90
bulanula 58
smoothie 43
Maria 39
Rarity 38
bitlane 38
cunicula 34
1nject0r 33
Jon 29
Matthew N. Wright 27
iCEBREAKER 25
PinkiePie 23
Micon 23
mystery2048 22
Faisal7 20
ElectricMucus 20
LoupGaroux 19
psy 18
SuperDuperJenkins 17
reeses 16
Mosrite 16
gene 15
Phinnaeus Gage 15

Liberty Payout 14
RandyFolds 14
The_Duke 14
mem 13
Vladimir 13
Yolocoin 12
Chaang Noi (Goat)
piotr_n 12
hoo 11
plastic.elastic 11
MPOE-PR 10
CoinHunter 10
myself 10
David_Benz 9
hazek 9
JeffK 9
bitcoinBull 8
Atlas 8
i_rape_bitcoins 8
Surawit 8
bitcoiners 8


This list seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm thinking that maybe the threshold for dark highlighting should be moved up, though.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1073
You have seem to put this feature in the template specific to Mozilla browser.
There is no such thing, and I don't see any user-agent checks in this area of the code. Do you see other ignore colors?
I've always seen everyone's else ignore info, but not my own. For me it was always empty (visually and HTML-wise, I searched HTML for something like blue on blue, etc.) Strangely it works now both in IE9/64 and Opera12/Win64 with default Spoof UserAgent ID (1 instead of 4).

I should've checked on more than one computer before bothering you. This had to be something related to my machine. Maybe the 1st full reboot in a month cured it?

Thanks in retreat and sorry for bothering you.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
You have seem to put this feature in the template specific to Mozilla browser.

There is no such thing, and I don't see any user-agent checks in this area of the code. Do you see other ignore colors?

I see it on firefox, opera, chrome, maxxton and safari.
What other browsers is he using? lol
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
You have seem to put this feature in the template specific to Mozilla browser.

There is no such thing, and I don't see any user-agent checks in this area of the code. Do you see other ignore colors?
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1073
People with an ignore color now see the ignore range they fall in instead of the ":-(". Also, people with 0.35% see a range in the same spot as a warning.
You have seem to put this feature in the template specific to Mozilla browser. Any chance on getting it moved to a general browser template? I managed to spoof the Opera to pretend to be Mozilla to see my ignore count. If it isn't much work, could you move it to the general template?

Thanks in advance.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
Actually, it's worse, because there are no positive votes and people who are calm tend to not use it as much, since there's really little point in not seeing certain posts.
To my knowledge reputation systems for online forums are not a solved problem, due to the reasons you listed.

I wonder if they would work better if they didn't rely on manual positive votes. There are probably a lot of other metrics that could be used, like how frequently people with a high reputation reply to a user's posts, how often people click on thread they started, how much time they spend looking at the user's posts, etc.

ignore score could also degrade with time, so that an 'ignore' request effected yesterday has more weight than one done a few months ago.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1013
Actually, it's worse, because there are no positive votes and people who are calm tend to not use it as much, since there's really little point in not seeing certain posts.
To my knowledge reputation systems for online forums are not a solved problem, due to the reasons you listed.

I wonder if they would work better if they didn't rely on manual positive votes. There are probably a lot of other metrics that could be used, like how frequently people with a high reputation reply to a user's posts, how often people click on thread they started, how much time they spend looking at the user's posts, etc.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Personally I love the fact that 12 people have me on ignore. It proves that I'm doing something right and 12 people are jelly. If it was 1000 people then I'd start to rethink my position.

I have said it once and I will say it again :

People who use ignore are just that : ignorant ! Wink
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