Feds Developing Technology to Detect Obesity from Your Picture

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 14, 2014, 04:39:49 PM

Public health surveillance?
Welcome to 1984

Public health surveillance is why you and I know that Entrovirus 68 is spreading in the US and that an outbreak of ebola is threatening Africa. It involves keeping track of the spread of infectious diseases. It is one of the most important measures we have for containing outbreaks. It is not what George Orwell had in mind, it is an established medical term.

It's a euphemism for making sure the government knows what you're eating, even when you don't (Google: Monsanto Protection Act)

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 14, 2014, 04:39:49 PM

Public health surveillance?
Welcome to 1984

Public health surveillance is why you and I know that Entrovirus 68 is spreading in the US and that an outbreak of ebola is threatening Africa. It involves keeping track of the spread of infectious diseases. It is one of the most important measures we have for containing outbreaks. It is not what George Orwell had in mind, it is an established medical term.

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Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 03:21:09 PM

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

And by sending rapist to jail we punish the poor guys who can't get laid in the normal way? Right?

You can go drunk , have your fun , get drunk again , I won't care but when out of your own stupidity you cost taxpayers extra money , they pay up.

the status quo is what feeds society. How are we going to keep our jail from being empty? Who is going to buy our prescriptions?Alcohol taxes help feed the children.....

Again I'm not against drinking or getting drunk but against overdoing it and bringing harm to others by doing that.
As for the tax money , if they don't buy alcohol they will buy chocolate or pretzels , so the tax money will still be there/

... thus becoming obese. But at least society will get the taxes from those sales too...

Have them eat some bellpeppers then , that might cure obesity...

She is on the case...
http://eagnews.org/looks-more-like-a-piece-of-paper-than-a-sub-roll-new-york-schools-drop-michelle-os-lunch-program/

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 03:15:20 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 03:12:11 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 03:08:15 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 02:43:48 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

And by sending rapist to jail we punish the poor guys who can't get laid in the normal way? Right?

You can go drunk , have your fun , get drunk again , I won't care but when out of your own stupidity you cost taxpayers extra money , they pay up.

the status quo is what feeds society. How are we going to keep our jail from being empty? Who is going to buy our prescriptions?Alcohol taxes help feed the children.....

Again I'm not against drinking or getting drunk but against overdoing it and bringing harm to others by doing that.
As for the tax money , if they don't buy alcohol they will buy chocolate or pretzels , so the tax money will still be there/

... thus becoming obese. But at least society will get the taxes from those sales too...

Have them eat some bellpeppers then , that might cure obesity...

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Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 03:12:11 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 03:08:15 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 02:43:48 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

And by sending rapist to jail we punish the poor guys who can't get laid in the normal way? Right?

You can go drunk , have your fun , get drunk again , I won't care but when out of your own stupidity you cost taxpayers extra money , they pay up.

the status quo is what feeds society. How are we going to keep our jail from being empty? Who is going to buy our prescriptions?Alcohol taxes help feed the children.....

Again I'm not against drinking or getting drunk but against overdoing it and bringing harm to others by doing that.
As for the tax money , if they don't buy alcohol they will buy chocolate or pretzels , so the tax money will still be there/

... thus becoming obese. But at least society will get the taxes from those sales too...

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 03:08:15 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 02:43:48 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

And by sending rapist to jail we punish the poor guys who can't get laid in the normal way? Right?

You can go drunk , have your fun , get drunk again , I won't care but when out of your own stupidity you cost taxpayers extra money , they pay up.

the status quo is what feeds society. How are we going to keep our jail from being empty? Who is going to buy our prescriptions?Alcohol taxes help feed the children.....

Again I'm not against drinking or getting drunk but against overdoing it and bringing harm to others by doing that.
As for the tax money , if they don't buy alcohol they will buy chocolate or pretzels , so the tax money will still be there..

One example , the hospital in one of our medium towns has spend 300 000 euros last years in treating drunks alone.
And this is Romania , where the average wage is 500E.

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Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 02:43:48 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

And by sending rapist to jail we punish the poor guys who can't get laid in the normal way? Right?

You can go drunk , have your fun , get drunk again , I won't care but when out of your own stupidity you cost taxpayers extra money , they pay up.

the status quo is what feeds society. How are we going to keep our jail from being empty? Who is going to buy our prescriptions?Alcohol taxes help feed the children.....

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

And by sending rapist to jail we punish the poor guys who can't get laid in the normal way? Right?

You can go drunk , have your fun , get drunk again , I won't care but when out of your own stupidity you cost taxpayers extra money , they pay up.

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Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 01:02:39 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:54:25 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:46:40 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:24:12 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

How about we view this from another point of view.
Last time I saw one of the those overweight guys being brought to the hospital there was an army of doctors and firemen , they brought a crane to get him out of the window , and then they had to call in a special ambulance since he couldn't be fitted in.

Then they took him into hospital gave him the best treatment , numerous operations and for nothing.

So , why should we all pay for this circus when the guy could have been prevented to go whale size one or two years before?

So , why should we all pay for this circus?

Why should we? Cops. E.R. Ambulance staff. Can't we simply eliminate people who like to drink too much? (and yes those are pictures of drunk women. Can't stand looking at drunk guys Wink

Simple solution. Make them pay for all the cost , police , ambulance etc if the help received was for something caused by their own actions.

So you get drunk the police needs to pick you up from the street and you need medical care to stand on two legs , pay for it.

How about those stupid surfers who need help in the middle of a hurricane? Should we not help or help, then telling them to pay for the bill they cost?

Should we tax stupidity? Who decide what is or not stupid? "A society of people who think the same?"

Not stupidity. You can be stupid by putting ice cream on your head or watching tokyo mew mew but that wound't cost tax payers money.

And yes , people who put their own life in jeopardy and require the intervention of the authorities should e charged for the cost of saving them.

A statistics in my country is that for every 10 calls the ambulance is answering one will have to wait 30 minutes because we lack the number of medical teams and cars. If after you get drunk in the street you're going to be presented with a 2000 euros bills I doubt some of them will do it again.

But if you bill people for being drunk aren't you punishing and criminalizing victims of alcohol addiction? Wink

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:54:25 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:46:40 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:24:12 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

How about we view this from another point of view.
Last time I saw one of the those overweight guys being brought to the hospital there was an army of doctors and firemen , they brought a crane to get him out of the window , and then they had to call in a special ambulance since he couldn't be fitted in.

Then they took him into hospital gave him the best treatment , numerous operations and for nothing.

So , why should we all pay for this circus when the guy could have been prevented to go whale size one or two years before?

So , why should we all pay for this circus?

Why should we? Cops. E.R. Ambulance staff. Can't we simply eliminate people who like to drink too much? (and yes those are pictures of drunk women. Can't stand looking at drunk guys Wink

Simple solution. Make them pay for all the cost , police , ambulance etc if the help received was for something caused by their own actions.

So you get drunk the police needs to pick you up from the street and you need medical care to stand on two legs , pay for it.

How about those stupid surfers who need help in the middle of a hurricane? Should we not help or help, then telling them to pay for the bill they cost?

Should we tax stupidity? Who decide what is or not stupid? "A society of people who think the same?"

Not stupidity. You can be stupid by putting ice cream on your head or watching tokyo mew mew but that wound't cost tax payers money.

And yes , people who put their own life in jeopardy and require the intervention of the authorities should e charged for the cost of saving them.

A statistics in my country is that for every 10 calls the ambulance is answering one will have to wait 30 minutes because we lack the number of medical teams and cars. If after you get drunk in the street you're going to be presented with a 2000 euros bills I doubt some of them will do it again.

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Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:46:40 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:24:12 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

How about we view this from another point of view.
Last time I saw one of the those overweight guys being brought to the hospital there was an army of doctors and firemen , they brought a crane to get him out of the window , and then they had to call in a special ambulance since he couldn't be fitted in.

Then they took him into hospital gave him the best treatment , numerous operations and for nothing.

So , why should we all pay for this circus when the guy could have been prevented to go whale size one or two years before?

So , why should we all pay for this circus?

Why should we? Cops. E.R. Ambulance staff. Can't we simply eliminate people who like to drink too much? (and yes those are pictures of drunk women. Can't stand looking at drunk guys Wink

Simple solution. Make them pay for all the cost , police , ambulance etc if the help received was for something caused by their own actions.

So you get drunk the police needs to pick you up from the street and you need medical care to stand on two legs , pay for it.

How about those stupid surfers who need help in the middle of a hurricane? Should we not help or help, then telling them to pay for the bill they cost?

Should we tax stupidity? Who decide what is or not stupid? "A society of people who think the same?"

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:24:12 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

How about we view this from another point of view.
Last time I saw one of the those overweight guys being brought to the hospital there was an army of doctors and firemen , they brought a crane to get him out of the window , and then they had to call in a special ambulance since he couldn't be fitted in.

Then they took him into hospital gave him the best treatment , numerous operations and for nothing.

So , why should we all pay for this circus when the guy could have been prevented to go whale size one or two years before?

So , why should we all pay for this circus?

Why should we? Cops. E.R. Ambulance staff. Can't we simply eliminate people who like to drink too much? (and yes those are pictures of drunk women. Can't stand looking at drunk guys Wink

Simple solution. Make them pay for all the cost , police , ambulance etc if the help received was for something caused by their own actions.

So you get drunk the police needs to pick you up from the street and you need medical care to stand on two legs , pay for it.

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Quote from: niothor on September 16, 2014, 12:24:12 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

How about we view this from another point of view.
Last time I saw one of the those overweight guys being brought to the hospital there was an army of doctors and firemen , they brought a crane to get him out of the window , and then they had to call in a special ambulance since he couldn't be fitted in.

Then they took him into hospital gave him the best treatment , numerous operations and for nothing.

So , why should we all pay for this circus when the guy could have been prevented to go whale size one or two years before?

So , why should we all pay for this circus?

Why should we? Cops. E.R. Ambulance staff. Can't we simply eliminate people who like to drink too much? (and yes those are pictures of drunk women. Can't stand looking at drunk guys Wink

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Why? 0bamacare gives them access to all of our medical records. I know .gov doesn't give a shit about saving money, but calculating this off medical records is a hell of a lot easier and more accurate than this camera mumbo jumbo.

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Quote from: Wilikon on September 16, 2014, 12:19:33 PM

Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

How about we view this from another point of view.
Last time I saw one of the those overweight guys being brought to the hospital there was an army of doctors and firemen , they brought a crane to get him out of the window , and then they had to call in a special ambulance since he couldn't be fitted in.

Then they took him into hospital gave him the best treatment , numerous operations and for nothing.

So , why should we all pay for this circus when the guy could have been prevented to go whale size one or two years before?

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Quote from: Bonam on September 16, 2014, 12:26:55 AM

Quote from: counter on September 16, 2014, 12:21:13 AM

If the information is being stored and used to prohibit people in any way then I don't support it and it's likely going to be flawed on some way that will have a negative impact on many people in some from or fashion.

Maybe those people could get off their asses and get some exercise. I'm tired of society pretending obese people are not obese. Ever try being sandwiched between two obese people on a plane? Or paying the same for a ticket as someone 4 times your weight?

The government should do something about smelly people too. How come you have devices that can "smell" terrorists but not smelly people before being stuck with them in a 12 hour flight? How about dirty babies that cry non stop? I mean you make sure not to bring more stupid people on this planet. How come others don't do like me? The government should do something about this.

And... Viva El Bitcoin! Viva La revolucion! Gracias. Now keep that smelly crying baby quiet and away from ME will you?

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Quote from: TECSHARE on September 15, 2014, 06:10:06 PM

Quote from: Mike Christ on September 14, 2014, 10:02:31 PM

I don't get it; we can already calculate BMI, so anyone who wants to know, can know. It seems like they're trying to create a database, and didn't want to ask people to submit a picture of themselves directly.

Exactly. The want to collect more without your permission. Databases of personal information are worth millions.

The government already has those stored from your id and your driving license.
And from facebook Wink

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 16, 2014, 10:33:22 AM

Kind of reminds you from that scene in 'Idiocracy' where the police are there to "make sure" that prostitutes "put out" by watching you performing the act

Well done, that is hilarious. I love the comparisons to Idiocracy and todays society. It really puts things into perspective, that film is a great parody of todays society. Grin

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Get ready for PrimeDice Sig Campaign!

Or the doctors could just weight them Tongue

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Quote from: Bonam on September 15, 2014, 10:00:45 PM

Quote from: organofcorti on September 15, 2014, 09:30:39 PM

If I can detect obesity from a picture, I'm pretty sure anyone in the govt can also. So again, why is this such a feat?

Presumably because it won't be a person looking at a picture, but an algorithm that can be part of an app on your smartphone or whatever. Developing an algorithm that can accurately determine someone's BMI to within say +/- 5 or 10 % by only analyzing a photograph of their face sounds non-trivial.

I can't wait for people taking pictures of me while walking down the street, then sharing them with my BMI index on facebook... What an amazing tool Roll Eyes

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