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sr. member
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May 29, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
#73
I don't think you have to blame the casino, what if the casino delays and the Bitcoin prices shoot up by 4 times which you would have cashed out if you received it earlier from them. So it's just fair to let go and accept that Bitcoin is volatile and anything can happen anytime.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
#72
I think you need patience in order to see your withdrawals from the casino going into your wallet. It's not the casino's fault, we know what volatile the price of bitcoin is and that they are just adding fee's according to how they see it. I'm not really sure if they are using the 200 s/b fee, but if you have patience your winnings will soon be in your wallet.
full member
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May 29, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
#71
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?

If you bet in USD or in your local currency,  you should be able to withdraw in Fiat. But if you gambled with btc,  I don't see why the btc exchange rate is a problem, so far as you received your payment.

In the other hand if you feel the casino isn't paying out in a timely manner due to  low fees, it is best to move your gambling elsewhere. Or make it known to them you would leave if they don't step up. Some casinos listen.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
#70

then how you explain that bittrex have 20k satoshi fee all the times, when i withdrawal my coins from them? 20k satoshi is way below the average and shoudl remain stuck forever instead i always get my coins very fast from them, the only explanation is that they are miners themselves, or they do the same thign as viabitcoin the accelerator
Maybe you're just lucky with the confirmations or during that time the network isn't busy as usual.

not at all, i'm always getting 20k satoshi fee for withdrawal, no matter was, and i'm not trading on bittrex from two days ago i'm doing it from many years, and was always 20k satoshi, just look yourself, try to do a withdrawals form bittrex, and you see, they have special deals with miners, trust me
I never used bittrex. Did you pay 20K or did they pay fee?
If you try to withdraw from poloniex for example, they will deduct 10K satoshi for fee from your account, but they will pay much larger fee when they send coins. Maybe it is something bittrex is doing too?
newbie
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May 29, 2017, 12:29:40 PM
#69
agree it is the casino fault if they at least don't use the minimum fees like 200 s/b right now, they should at least allow us to setup our own fees if they do not want to pay it themselves.
had an issue with a pending directbet bet for a long time, accelerated it through Viabtc eventually but before it was pending for days.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 12:18:17 PM
#68

then how you explain that bittrex have 20k satoshi fee all the times, when i withdrawal my coins from them? 20k satoshi is way below the average and shoudl remain stuck forever instead i always get my coins very fast from them, the only explanation is that they are miners themselves, or they do the same thign as viabitcoin the accelerator
Maybe you're just lucky with the confirmations or during that time the network isn't busy as usual.

not at all, i'm always getting 20k satoshi fee for withdrawal, no matter was, and i'm not trading on bittrex from two days ago i'm doing it from many years, and was always 20k satoshi, just look yourself, try to do a withdrawals form bittrex, and you see, they have special deals with miners, trust me
newbie
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May 29, 2017, 11:06:45 AM
#67
That would be excessive IMO, Although a casino should send using decent fees demanding remuneration is almost impossible to achieve, also calculating it would be another issue.. Technically the withdrawal is in the blockchain so their job is done.
A good solution however is to let the player set the fees himself "with a minimum of 0.0001", This way, the player can't complaint sine he/she is the one who decided the fees.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 10:37:03 AM
#66
the casinos should not to blame for this situations and the players also have to realize that this is one of the risk gamble use cryptocurrency and sometimes bitcoin price could dropped or rise up rapidly so they have to prepare to facing it but i think most of casinos would not too concern for the price only
sr. member
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May 29, 2017, 10:35:28 AM
#65
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?

I don't think you're being fair with the casinos because you're receiving your due won amount in bitcoins and not in fiat so what I will suggest is for the casinos to add options for quicker confirmations where they will deduct a part of your won bitcoins into sending it quickly into your wallet.
sr. member
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May 29, 2017, 10:11:53 AM
#64
The answer will be no, as long as the casino gives you the money then they are not to blame, and the speed transaction is not the casino fault, so you should also consider the withdrawal and deposit coin speed before you decided to play in that site

Correct. As long as casino send out your coins then we can't blame them but casinos should provide a couple of options to players to pay the fee instead they decided some fixed amount. They on one can blame the casinos because individuals have decided how much they want to pay the fees.
We can't blame them but must provide several options for players to pay a fee instead they decided how many remain. They can blame on one of the casinos because individuals have decided how much they want to pay the fee because if something isn't going to happen
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 08:13:00 AM
#63
no one to blame because casino already did their job it's all because transaction that not get confirmation yet, but untill now i never face that problem because price up and down it is not too much in a single day
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 08:02:35 AM
#62
Of course not because they pay you according to the amount of your bet and they will increase the transaction fee in order to keep the transaction confirmed. I think it's a risk we're gambling with bitcoin, gaining more profit when prices go up and suffering losses when prices go down.
hero member
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May 29, 2017, 06:38:29 AM
#61
Casino doesn't have the responsibility to be blamed off because in the first place like what has been said here, you agreed on their terms and conditions upon joining the site. And it so normal to bitcoin that it fluctuates in no time, there are times that you will really encounter such scenarios, you know what to do.
hero member
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May 29, 2017, 06:05:37 AM
#60
I think it's the duty of the casino to make sure that you get your money as quickly as possible, you bore the cost of paying high
Fees for a faster confirmation so likewise they should do the same.
No they wont do such thing because they would really lose big portion of their profits if they do set this kind of procedure on paying up huge fees just to make faster transactions. They might always claim to have instant deposits or withdrawals but it cant be undone because of the network problems we are experiencing as of now and they wont really risk up their profits just to grant their players demands/suggestions.
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May 29, 2017, 05:37:47 AM
#59
I think it's the duty of the casino to make sure that you get your money as quickly as possible, you bore the cost of paying high
Fees for a faster confirmation so likewise they should do the same.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 05:35:45 AM
#58
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?

The answer is obviously no. Would you pay the difference back to casino if the price had risen? If you play with Bitcoins you should accept the rules, Bitcoin is a highly volatile currency and you never know what will be the price in the nearest couple of hours, let alone days.
They wont really patch up or give you additional because they know the volatility of bitcoin and so are you. If you don't like this stuff then go back on local fiat gambling on which all are on stable basis. This is the risk on playing and receiving bitcoin as a profits because price or amount might decrease or increase.Thats the only two ways on where your money would go.
hero member
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May 29, 2017, 05:27:41 AM
#57
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?

I don't think so buddy, any casino that does would be mad, they would incur heavy losses if they tried to so. Well all you need to do is be smart and play at the right casino like my signature one, pays on time, is efficient and it's trust worthy. Secondly how do you expect them to keep a track of your earnings, like you there are 1000 withdrawals, so should they check on this x withdrawal price fell let's refund them. If it were so will every time btc price rose after they paid should they seek refund. So no forget it and move on.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 04:52:57 AM
#56
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?

The answer is obviously no. Would you pay the difference back to casino if the price had risen? If you play with Bitcoins you should accept the rules, Bitcoin is a highly volatile currency and you never know what will be the price in the nearest couple of hours, let alone days.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 04:49:00 AM
#55
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?

Casino haven't responsibility for that, but usually they put standard fees, so the transaction speed normal, or even you can choose transaction fees speed, like crypto-games have.
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May 29, 2017, 04:01:11 AM
#54
If you cash out by bitcoins at a casino and the casino doesn't add enough fees for fast confirmation. If the price of bitcoin drops a lot. Should the casino be held responsible for the price differences in which you cashed out at and the current loss in btc prices?
As long as it is still int he policy casinos has no accountability on that, most casinos will let you choose why type of fee you like and as a gambler we will choose a faster one which is more expensive. The only casino I knew that has no fee is FortuneJack.com that's why I love to pay in this site.


Yes, as of now only FJ site don't ask any fee from the players to withdraw money. But most of the other reputed sites will allow players to chose the fee for withdrawal. But sometimes even with highest fee pay for the withdrawal still we need to wait for many hours to receive withdrawals. It is not a gambling site issue but blockchain traffic issue.
The same is not available with betcoin.ag, whether the price increase or decrease they won't be charging the users a transaction fee for withdrawal. This might be the case with the new gambling websites that are new to the gambling service.
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