Topic: Few Trusted Escrow Providers - page 2. (Read 4043 times)

Saw them bumping their escrow ANN so-

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DireWolfM14

Ann

Free for trades between two individuals; nominal fee for campaigns, games & rounds or other businesses

Fee excerpt - in case someone wants to rephrase the "Fee" bit better:

Thank you for this new update, shasan!

Now the topic is 100% up to date and it contains only active, valid and reliable escrows!



While it is somehow surprising to see that, out of 3.5M users, only 8 act as escrow, at least those looking for such service will find help if they read this topic.

For comparison, we can take a look at the obsolete lists from the other two topics related to escrow services: first one contains 11 users, from which only 4 are valid, while second topic contains 14 users, from which only 6 are valid. Practically, any user find those threads, by pure unluck, will have 50-70% chances to contact an invalid escrow and be scammed, wait for nothing, lose their deal, risk having their PM reported etc.

I am more than happy to see this topic offering only valid information and I will try to bring my contributions to keep it up in the topics list of Service Discussion board, by bumping it from time to time with valuable information.

Rank increased
SFR10 106 to 105

Rank Decreased
willi9974 36 to 40
zazarb 73 to 74
SebastianJu 135 to 136
bittawm 150 to 151
GazetaBitcoin 522 to 523

The rest are unchanged.

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bittawm

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0.9% BTC & 1.5% altcoin

I have removed bittawm as bittawm is offline for more than 4 months and is unresponsive to GazetaBitcoin's message.

Sorry, his fees are not fixed. When anyone will use him as escrow he will fix his fee.

Thank you as well for this update, shasan!

I also noticed that there is no fee mentioned for Sebastian Ju and you wrote in OP "Need to ask". Would you like me to ask him? Or can you PM him for letting us know his fee as well?

And I also noticed that there is one more user which needs to be removed: bittawm. I also contacted him in January and, as I said before, he never replied:


We are already in April and he never replied to my PM. Besides, he was last active more than 4 months ago and he never updated his thread since May 2018.

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John (John K.)

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1.5% long terms 2.0%+

I have removed him from my list base on your suggestion and as he is not active on the forum. Last active was more than 4 months ago. Though I have not sent him PM(I guess) yet I have faith on you and removed him from the list, thank you.

Thank you for updating this topic regularly, shasan! I also wanted to suggest you to remove Dabs for the reason you stated and also for the fact that he never replied to my PM from January.

Other than that, please also remove John (John K.). He also never replied to my PM from January. Besides, this user was last seen in November last year and, more important, his last post was made on April 8th, 2020, which is 3 years ago. There is no reason for keeping him in the list.

This was also suggested by PX-Z here, in February and by me as well, also in February.

Besides, you said


If you PMed John K. and he did not reply to you as well, I believe it's safe to remove him from the list. As far as I remember, last time when I talked to him (which happened in 2020), he told me that although he still browses the forum from time to time, he is not active anymore. You can also see that by looking at the date of his last post. Considering these, there is no reason for keeping him the the list of escrow providers.

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Dabs

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1-2% (with a 0.03BTC min)

I have removed Dabs from the trusted escrow provider list as Dabs has an active loan and based on the required time I can't see any repayment also there is no announcement about the time extension. Also after the required time, there is no login. Once there is an update or repaid the loan I will add Dabs again to the trusted escrow provider list.

Recently, A user created a reputation thread regarding Dabs Escrow service. You can read it here; Dabs for to offer escrow service?. Dabs' is having some difficulties with his financial Condition. The guy pointed it out, but we haven't heard anything from Dabs. He has some active loans from zazarb and DarkStar_ (which is why T3PR00T created that thread). I am unsure if he is still acting as escrow since I haven't asked him personally.

Moreover, His ANN thread didn't get any replies since 2021. When the last time he replied, His minimum fee was 0.03 BTC which is too much considered the Bitcoin Market Today. I believe he is discontinued his service, or maybe he is not updating for some reason. May you want to make sure by contacting Dabs?

Rank increased
MoparMiningLLC 13 to 11
zazarb 75 to 73
Dabs 213 to 208
GazetaBitcoin 530 to 522

Rank Decreased
willi9974 15 to 36
SebastianJu 80 to 135
SFR10 94 to 106
bittawm 126 to 150
John (John K.) 143 to 178
ninjaboon  558 to 702

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ninjaboon

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1%

Has been removed as the user is offline since October 07, 2022, 06:49:09 AM which is about 6 months. I will add it again if the user becomes active again.

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BitCoinDream

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Free

Has been removed as the user is usually inactive and the important thing is that the list is based on trust but the user is not on the top 1000 trusted users. And also there is no positive trust in the profile of BitCoinDream.

Thank you for deleting this users too, thus making the list from OP even more accurate. If you remember I told you about their refusal since Feb 3rd... In any case, it is good that you contacted them and you got your own confirmation about their position.

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Well, on the same basis you contacted krogoth and Hhampuz, without thinking you disturb them, right? There is no point in thinking you will disturb someone if you ask him about his service.


Besides, please remember I also suggested you on Feb third to contact those from which we have no news about and see if they are still offering their service, and you agreed to contact them...


So don't let yourself think that you may disturb someone... You won't. Think about what happens if some users contact them after seeing them in your list and they will either receive no answer or they'll be told (by ninjaboon / BitCoinDream) they are not escrows anymore. It would be a time lost by those users which are contacting escrows which are not escrows anymore. They may even lose precious deals if they PM an escrow and the escrow never replies. This is why it's important to have the list very accurate.

If you want, I can try to PM them, I have no problem with that.

ninjaboon is Last Active: on October 07, 2022, 04:49:09 AM which is less than 6 months offline. I have planned to see the status for 6 months. I could do it faster by sending a message if they could reply to the message that could be fine for keeping it and if no response then I could remove it. But I do not want to send a message right now to disturb him/her.

BitCoinDream usually does not come on the forum but s/he used to come online if see any important message. And s/he was active only a few days ago (March 08, 2023, 02:11:02 PM).

For krogothmanhattan I sent a message today and I came to know that escrow is not provided any more by the krogothmanhattan. So, I have removed krogothmanhattan from the list.

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krogothmanhattan

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1% (0.002BTC min)

For Hhampuz: I have received a reply and I have become confirmed that he is not providing escrow anymore. So, I have removed it from the list.

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Hhampuz

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1% (0.002BTC min)

Thank you for this update, shasan!


Thank you also for this "purge", which brings the topic closer to reality.

Any news about ninjaboon and BitCoinDream? Have you tried to contact them? Besides, ninjaboon was last active on 07 October 2022.

Other than that, any news about krogothmanhattan and Hhampuz? As you remember they already told me they are not into escrow services anymore.


Have you tried to contact them...? Have they told you something else...?

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
MoparMiningLLC 14 to 13
bittawm 127 to 126
Dabs 215 to 213
TwinWinNerD 312 to 311
GazetaBitcoin 535 to 530
ninjaboon  707 to 558

I have removed Blazed as Blazed is offline from October 27, 2020, 12:14:27 AM

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Blazed

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Free or 1%

I have removed TwinWinNerD as TwinWinNerD is offline from May 31, 2021, 02:38:57 PM

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TwinWinNerD

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1% (0.01BTC min)

I have removed Dudeperfect as Dudeperfect is offline from August 02, 2022, 09:25:31 AM

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Dudeperfect

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Free

Well, I think it's better, for accuracy purposes, to have listed only active users, and those which still offer escrow services. If they are inactive or if they ceased offering the service (such as krogoth or Hhampuz), what's the reason for listing them...? It may only lead to confusion. After all, not all users read Trust pages (especially if they are new on the forum). And listing some which don't offer escrow anymore may lead to have users contacting them asking for escrow, while they are not interested in doing this anymore... (They could also report those PMs as being unsolicited, which may lead to other problems.)

Same is true about inactive ones: some users (which do not read Trust pages) may contact inactive ones and wait, in vain, for them to answer. This may also lead to having deals cancelled and so on...

And, after all, the purpose of this topic was to correct what was inaccurate in the other two topics about escrows... And what was inaccurate there was the fact that they contain obsolete users (inactive or which stopped acting as escrows) and the topic authors are no longer interested in having their topics up to date. Now, since a third topic was created, let's have this one, at least, up to date

In addition to this, I think it'd be better if "LoyceV's Trust score images" was also part of the table ^{[apart from its first step, everything else is automated]}.

• Quote from: shasan on March 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
  Rank increased
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  Zazarb 76 to 73
  
  Rank Decreased:
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  zazarb 73 to 75
  
  Wait a minute, why zazarb got two updates ^{[it's not fair haha ]}?

An active/inactive tag would probably be the easier route. What do you think?

Hey shasan! Do you have any news on these matters?


Have you tried to contact krohoth and Hhampuz? Have they changed their minds? I see they are still in the list...


Besides, have you tried to contact these users too? Have they replied...?

I am asking because it is important to have this list properly updated... Let's avoid what happened in the other two threads about escrow providers

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And I also have a suggestion: topic title should be Few Trusted Escrow Providers, not "Provider" Can you add that extra "s" to "Provider", please?

I have updated the Trusted Escrow Provider's list. BPIP trust rank updated so I have rearranged it if there is any change.
Rank increased
krogothmanhattan 4 to 3
Blazed 8 to 6
Zazarb 76 to 73
willi9974 16 to 15
bittawm 139 to 127
John (John K.) 147 to 143
Dabs 216 to 215
TwinWinNerD 316 to 312
GazetaBitcoin 676 to 535
ninjaboon 709 to 707

Rank Decreased:
OgNasty 3 to 4
MoparMiningLLC 10 to 14
SebastianJu 56 to 80
zazarb 73 to 75
SFR10 83 to 94

This is both ridiculous and sad and it makes me remember that in 2018 I was also scammed by someone and also with 20$ (facepalm). Same as you, I did not believe that someone would be in such hunger to eat the dirt from under his fingernails and try a 20$ scam. I was wrong. Same as you...

Would you like to describe what happened? Do you have more details? Is there a topic which can be used as reference or screenshots of the discussion between you and the scammer, showing undeniable proof that he scammed you? If so, you can make  topic in Scam Accusation board, using the scam report format from here and the scammer will be exposed, limiting his future actions inside the forum. Besides, he may also be tagged with negative feedbacks by DT users. I hope this helps.


You can do it also for lower amounts, not just for big ones. See what just happened? You were scammed with 20$...

Thank you so much for the list!

It's very helpful especially for me as new user. I must use them in the future for the big amount transaction.

I was really shocked & just realized that there are so many scammer in here. And one of them just scammed me $20 today. Lol. I let them not use escrow service because i do never expect that someone will scam for $20 only. I can't imagine how poor they are in real life.

Welcome  

I will reply below to some parts of your post.

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What's confusing you? If it helps, here's his reply:



And this was my message:

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As I wrote in my previous post, I already PMed (on Jan 19th) OgNasty, SebastianJu, John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, willi9974, minerjones, zazarb, Lutpin, SFR10, Hhampuz, krogothmanhattan, realediston and MoparMiningLLC.
SebastianJu, John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, Lutpin and realediston have not replied until present day.

From my perspective it's useless to PM them again, for same matter. Unless you want to give it a second try (which is fine ). But it'll be just losing time, in case you'll do it.

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Great jobs in adding willi9974, MoparMiningLLC, OgNasty, updating stats for minerjones and myself and deleting Lauda!

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I already posted above krogothmanhattan's reply. Here is Hhampuz's reply:




From my perspective, only Blazed should be contacted, as he was the only one from your topic which did not appear in the other two (obsolete) topics. Considering I already contacted everybody else (all remaining users from your list appear also in the other two topics), only he remains to be contacted. But again, if you want to give everybody one more try, feel free to do it

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Yes.

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Have you also thought about another name for the topic? One which could match easier Google searches, thus it would appear in searches on top of the other two threads? Maybe "Active BitcoinTalk escrow providers"?

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Later edit: SebastianJu actually replied to me but, for some reason I did not see his PM in my inbox at first sight. He is still offering his service:


Everything else is correct though: John (John K.), PsychoticBoy, Dabs, bittawm, Lutpin and realediston have not replied until present day.