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July 15, 2019, 03:00:39 PM
#67
Fiat money is the slowest bubble of all time that is why people not recognising it as a bubble and we were never taught about Fiat money anywhere while we are in schools are college so government even didn't want us to know about it.

Fiat is not a bubble initially. Traditional money is backed by gold. Certainly, in some countries it is like a bubble - governments simply print this paper all the time, and it is the straight road to the default.
It's obvious.Of course, Fiat money is not a bubble.If that were the case then you would not write on the forum and would be looking for food to sustain life!(I hope You understand what I mean)
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July 31, 2019, 11:56:12 AM
#67
Bitcoin is not supported by any physical assets. Unlike the case with Fiat money backed up with gold or other assets. If a country prints fiat money carelessly and does not match the value of deposits in the bank, it can cause inflation. Like in Venezuela. Bitcoin is only supported by public trust that has no monetary value. If Bitcoin gets high trust, the price also increases. So bitcoin is better referred to as a bubble.
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July 31, 2019, 05:49:19 AM
#66
Technically you are right, FIAt is constantly generated out of thin air.
but there is a huge difference between crypto and fiat, fiat is very strictly controlled and regulated and has enormous liquidity.
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July 15, 2019, 02:45:20 PM
#65
Since many people try to convince us that Bitcoin is a bubble and how we will lose our money eventually, I wonder if money is not a bubble actually. There exist economies in which money has a positive value in spite its market fundamental is zero. That means fiat money has zero value. Fiat money is a social contrivance. We take money from other people because we know other people will take it from us. In theory and practice the fiat money is a bubble.

The thing is that every currency eventually will bring forth bubbles. With fiat currency, you have a higher chance of this happening due to its unlimited supply, and even more so, when their value is derived from factors such as the stability of the issuing government. On the other hand, and although it´s not immune to bubbles, currency tied to commodities tends to be much more stable due to their limited supply. So, you can say that fiat currency still has a perception-based value, since it’s valid due to a necessity of keeping the current economic system wheel going, and that it can create bubbles that depending on the country they eventually burst...
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July 15, 2019, 04:05:36 AM
#64
Money not created by governments,its from the banks and they are controlling and printing so even if we are keep earning money we can't get that extra money.
It's not money that they printed as it's not a store of value, it's currency. Currency may be a bubble and it may be useless as what we have seen right now in some countries.
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July 14, 2019, 10:40:36 AM
#63
Unfortunately the thing is this bubble supports only +/- 1-2% ups and downs therefore it actually shows a very less increase and decrease in the total mean value of that particular currency therefore it is a bubble but much less than Bitcoins.

As compared to Bitcoins , Bitcoins shows a lot of ups and downs and at the same time it is within seconds and is not related to anything like economy or anything else , therefore it is much more volatile .

yes fiat bubble is not risky even if it explodes it won't make too much loss. All things whose values move are called bubbles and each bubble is determined by the high or low fluctuating value. But it all depends on the buyer, whether they like safer bubbles or bubbles with great risk and high reward.
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July 14, 2019, 12:27:40 AM
#62
afaik bubble means it dissapears but look at fiats now , they are still there  .  some cryptos can only be a good example of a bubble because after you invest on them their value wont go up anymore and worst they will only decline  .

bitcoin is also been accused for being a bubble after its value went up really high ( at 20k+ usd to be specific ) and then it goes down pretty quick   . however bitcoin is recovering so its safe to say that its not a real bubble  .
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July 09, 2019, 01:51:02 PM
#61
I also think fiat money is a bubble, and if governments don't do good works we will work only to live and to can buy some extra things to make life better or to get some extra money to travel.
Money not created by governments,its from the banks and they are controlling and printing so even if we are keep earning money we can't get that extra money.
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July 13, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
#61
Yep its and we can say that about USD 100% and as i know starting from 1975 if i am not USD isnt secured by so its gold who knows how much usd was printed until now noone only thoes who print them they made as slaves slaves of USD.
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July 14, 2019, 12:18:35 AM
#61
Unfortunately the thing is this bubble supports only +/- 1-2% ups and downs therefore it actually shows a very less increase and decrease in the total mean value of that particular currency therefore it is a bubble but much less than Bitcoins.

As compared to Bitcoins , Bitcoins shows a lot of ups and downs and at the same time it is within seconds and is not related to anything like economy or anything else , therefore it is much more volatile .
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July 09, 2019, 09:28:18 AM
#60
I also think fiat money is a bubble, and if governments don't do good works we will work only to live and to can buy some extra things to make life better or to get some extra money to travel.
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July 13, 2019, 03:12:53 PM
#60
Fiat money is the slowest bubble of all time that is why people not recognising it as a bubble and we were never taught about Fiat money anywhere while we are in schools are college so government even didn't want us to know about it.

Fiat is not a bubble initially. Traditional money is backed by gold. Certainly, in some countries it is like a bubble - governments simply print this paper all the time, and it is the straight road to the default.

Are you sure that traditional money is backed by gold? Why don`t you check again, the internet is full with many informations about that my friend. I agree with you about one thing, fiat wasn`t a bubble from the beginning, but somewhere along the way, it got corrupted. We had many economic crises and depressions in the past, what we didn`t have is crypto, now every economic crisis will make people turn to crypto, which will lead to the end of fiat.
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July 11, 2019, 02:11:16 PM
#59
Fiat money is the slowest bubble of all time that is why people not recognising it as a bubble and we were never taught about Fiat money anywhere while we are in schools are college so government even didn't want us to know about it.

Fiat is not a bubble initially. Traditional money is backed by gold. Certainly, in some countries it is like a bubble - governments simply print this paper all the time, and it is the straight road to the default.
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July 09, 2019, 09:22:05 AM
#58
I absolutely love the title and the discussion! Fiat was a bubble from the beginning - right after gold. Money itself is a bubble. It has value because people give it value.
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July 09, 2019, 07:39:02 AM
#57
Fiat money is just a paper or coins. If you're just a naive kid, you'll probably think of it as nonsense thing even a toy. Why is it people, almost worship money and even make immoral just to have it? Because its value, in this world in order for you to survive one of the needs is money. Thus, money can become a bubble if people reach the contentment and satisfaction in life. Especially, when people realize the true meaning of being rich. However, that is economy, to answer the infinite demands of people.
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July 09, 2019, 05:56:10 AM
#56
The paper money of the states is not a fraud or financial bubble. If used correctly, they greatly help to develop and strengthen the economy of the state and are very convenient for practical use. However, some governments abuse the right to print paper money and it hurts the economy, and an excessive amount of money causes inflation.
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July 07, 2019, 11:23:47 PM
#55
Since many people try to convince us that Bitcoin is a bubble and how we will lose our money eventually, I wonder if money is not a bubble actually. There exist economies in which money has a positive value in spite its market fundamental is zero. That means fiat money has zero value. Fiat money is a social contrivance. We take money from other people because we know other people will take it from us. In theory and practice the fiat money is a bubble.
No, ordinary currency cannot be categorized as financial bubbles. The amount of paper money issued can be clearly calculated so that they relatively accurately reflect the amount of material assets in circulation and release paper money for this amount. Only when the government deliberately prints extra money, does inflation occur and can we partially speak of paper money as a financial bubble.
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July 06, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
#54
All fiat currencies are scam.
There is perhaps only one country in the world has 100% gold reserved for total money they printed.
So ruling party, central bank print money and they keep piles for them when people raise question why government want taxes when they can print money as much as they can the same old answer is if more money printed currency will be devalued. Ruling people fool common men giving same old example that 'if a family has 1 kilo gold and 10 members in family, now head of family holds that gold and makes 10 tickets and distributes among each family members which mean each ticket is worth 100 gram gold now if 10 more tickets created for same amount of gold and distributed to all family members then value of single ticket will become 50 gram gold so if you have 1 ticket or 2 tickets value will be same. This type of answers from economists and governors are heard since decades and common men believe it.
Now question is who knows if head of family created 1000 tickets and kept 991 by him?
And also gold or other assets are with him which he may have sold?
In my opinion currency notes are just printed piece of papers issued by governor and made people believe this is money.
They have imposed value of these printed piece of papers in people's mind, whether one wants or not he/she has to accept it as payment in corporate world.
In future may paper currency will not exist and only digital currencies will be accepted and our next generation will believe only digital cash is money.
Or maybe something more advance than digital money in future.
Let's watch, what new form of money is coming in future.

If you think that fiat is scam why do you use it? I will never believe that a person will refuse from dollars (or some other national currency) forever and start using the only crypto. It will be a great lie. We still need fiat.
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July 07, 2019, 12:18:25 AM
#54
Since many people try to convince us that Bitcoin is a bubble and how we will lose our money eventually, I wonder if money is not a bubble actually. There exist economies in which money has a positive value in spite its market fundamental is zero. That means fiat money has zero value. Fiat money is a social contrivance. We take money from other people because we know other people will take it from us. In theory and practice the fiat money is a bubble.
that's not the right definition of a bubble. But anyway, Bitcoin is really a bubble. If you don't understand it, I can explain it to you.
People say that BTC is a bubble, yes, they are not wrong. Because the value of Bitcoin is really not as high as its current valuation value.
In terms of technology, it is obsolete compared to new technology businesses, the time for money transfer is very long and the cost is very expensive. So where is it potential? Why is it so strong?
all is the whale's plan. They pump and dump bitcoin to make a profit and in fact BTC has no great value.
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July 06, 2019, 08:29:21 AM
#53
Since many people try to convince us that Bitcoin is a bubble and how we will lose our money eventually, I wonder if money is not a bubble actually. There exist economies in which money has a positive value in spite its market fundamental is zero. That means fiat money has zero value. Fiat money is a social contrivance. We take money from other people because we know other people will take it from us. In theory and practice the fiat money is a bubble.
First of all, how many decades did fiat currency started to be used? If it is a bubble thing like bitcoin and cryptocurrency, therefore it may devalue. I don`t think that fiat currency is a bubble thing because the only one I know that we can compare to bubble is bitcoin. Because of its volatility and fluctuations, many traders speculate and coined bitcoin as bubble thing. However, it never become zero since it grows.
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