FIBA's EuroBasket is rigged with a proof

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on September 12, 2022, 04:56:10 PM

Nope, I will not think that these matches are rigged. There's no way that they'll obviously do such a thing. It is quite a cool coincidence that 3 consecutive matches was able to score the same scores as the previous matches. If this happens with an absurdly high or low score such as 70-80 or 130-100 then I might think of it as a rigged match but the scores are just normal range for a basketball match.

If only the scores I also doubt that it's rigged, it has to be on how they play and if there are intentional misses you have to show us the actual games for us to see if the teams are rigging the game, FIBA judges and officials will not let rigging to happen because the teams are not corporations or state-based but these are countries fighting for pride, no country will send a team to take part in rigging a game, they will lose pride as a nation, it can happen in leagues but unlikely in international tournaments.

Exactly, we are not naive enough to not believe that some matches are rigged by the players, the referees, the coaches or all of them working together at the same time, but it is not enough to look at the score of a match in order to be able to tell that this was the case.

We will need to see the actual game to see if there was something suspicious at the time that could have influenced the results one way or another, and if there is no evidence of this then we have no authority to say that the matches were rigged.

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LOL, what's the point to rig games in such way and how someone will benefit if 3 games will have identical final result. I add another one thing - 4th games of that day between Greece and Czech Republic ended 94:88 with Greece win. So, 4 winners of 4 that day games scored 94 points. If Czech Republic would have scored 2 points less, all 4 games would have identical result. Also, Czech Republic 4 games in a row scored 88 points.
Another video for your conspiracy theory, is it also rigged? Time is a flat circle 🌀 and we're living in a matrix! 🤯
https://twitter.com/FIBA/status/1570105579611226115
You're looking for conspiracy theories in wrong place. And yeah, referees control many things, but they can't control how many points will be scored.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 13, 2022, 05:38:37 AM

The guys with the wristles control the game in the end of the day. They can call a foul when it's not a foul and they can let things go by "unnoticed" if necessary.

The guys with the whistles don't score goals or points. As I said before, even if I were to believe in match fixing, such a precise result would be impossible unless both teams and the referee were corrupt at the same time. And you still haven't explained what would be the point of fixing an identical result in three games in a row? Who would benefit from it and in what way?

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It doesn't matter who plays against who, the NBA Finals have similar accusations all over YouTube for example.

Are you serious? You make your arguments based on crazy accusations from some random people on YouTube? I suggest you find a better source of information.
There are tons of flat-earthers all over YouTube, but that doesn't make Earth any less round than it is. Wink

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on September 12, 2022, 04:56:10 PM

Nope, I will not think that these matches are rigged. There's no way that they'll obviously do such a thing. It is quite a cool coincidence that 3 consecutive matches was able to score the same scores as the previous matches. If this happens with an absurdly high or low score such as 70-80 or 130-100 then I might think of it as a rigged match but the scores are just normal range for a basketball match.

If only the scores I also doubt that it's rigged, it has to be on how they play and if there are intentional misses you have to show us the actual games for us to see if the teams are rigging the game, FIBA judges and officials will not let rigging to happen because the teams are not corporations or state-based but these are countries fighting for pride, no country will send a team to take part in rigging a game, they will lose pride as a nation, it can happen in leagues but unlikely in international tournaments.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on September 13, 2022, 12:16:33 PM

Quote from: FatFork on September 12, 2022, 10:09:59 AM

If you were to go through the history of NBA games and analyze all the results, you'd find a lot of weird coincidences just like this one.

For example:
On March 15, 2021, San Antonio Spurs defeated Detroit Pistons 109-99; on the same night, just an hour later, Los Angeles Clippers defeated Dallas Mavericks 109-99. Just two days later, the Spurs beat the Bulls 109-99. Grin

That's interesting but it's not that suspicious because the games are separated unlike to the op's example where it happened 3 times in a row.

The matches are not separated because the first two were played on the same night (just an hour difference). And the third was the next game of the same team. But anyway, this is just one example I found after a quick search. I'm sure there are many such examples throughout the history of basketball (or any other sport, for that matter). My point was that such coincidences are possible and that it is nothing strange.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 01:10:39 PM

Proof:
https://twitter.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1569024965391056898?s=20&t=kMy7E-HY2yNV-jEnzESVJw

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Is this truly a coincidence?!

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Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

If I were the mastermind of rigging the game I would not instruct players or referees to make the scores so identical that will rose suspicious, I have not watched those games but it's not on the scores but how these players played the game that will arise suspiciously, Basketball is not won by a particular number on the scoreboard and how many numbers you're up against your opponent whether you're up by one or 50 points a win is still a win.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 13, 2022, 05:38:37 AM

The guys with the wristles control the game in the end of the day. They can call a foul when it's not a foul and they can let things go by "unnoticed" if necessary.
It doesn't matter who plays against who, the NBA Finals have similar accusations all over YouTube for example.

I agree, there are certain referees that are really quick when it comes to calling fouls and there are other referees that won't call a foul even if there's a lot of physical contact involved between the players. Favorable calls happen from time to time but it's not enough proof to say they're rigged knowing that some referees have been officiating for several years. I remember other bettors used to avoid NBA matches just because certain teams have a bad record against a certain referee.

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Quote from: FatFork on September 12, 2022, 10:09:59 AM

If you were to go through the history of NBA games and analyze all the results, you'd find a lot of weird coincidences just like this one.

For example:
On March 15, 2021, San Antonio Spurs defeated Detroit Pistons 109-99; on the same night, just an hour later, Los Angeles Clippers defeated Dallas Mavericks 109-99. Just two days later, the Spurs beat the Bulls 109-99. Grin

That's interesting but it's not that suspicious because the games are separated unlike to the op's example where it happened 3 times in a row. Basing only in the scores is not the best way to tell if the game is shady or not but there's more chance that we can tell it if we watch the game live or better if we are on the court.

In the event you found out that it was really a made up game, what will you do? Report them immediately? I think you will have a small chance to succeed with this and this is also risky because there must be a big group of people behind this. It would be better if we will just keep quiet and ignore the teams or events like this next time.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 13, 2022, 02:37:03 AM

Don't get me wrong but isn't it more harder to rig national games like these ones than just regular leagues?

The guys with the wristles control the game in the end of the day. They can call a foul when it's not a foul and they can let things go by "unnoticed" if necessary.
It doesn't matter who plays against who, the NBA Finals have similar accusations all over YouTube for example.

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Don't get me wrong but isn't it more harder to rig national games like these ones than just regular leagues? I mean these matches are carefully watched by many Basketball lovers around the world. I am sure it is extremely unlikely that 3 matches in a row has same results in sports like basketball. Although I also feel like its coincidence. You should have more proofs to support your argument like strange positions in the match (as example I mean).

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I don't think scores being the same can be counted as proof? I mean they're not exactly impossible to achieve, low chance yes, but not impossible. Not to mention that if this was about rigging the game for sports predictions, then I don't think they'd be dumb enough to do this 3 times in a row, not to mention the different teams involved. There's a high chance there'd be upheaval on the scene if that were the case. Maybe give other samples with the same teams involved or on the scene just in general. Would chalk it up to just coincidence though imo.

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What's the point of rigging basketball games and who would benefit the most?
AFAIK, those games are eliminations and the teams that lost actually wanted to win and continue in the next phase of the tournament.
What's the point of rigging three basketball games so that they could end with the same result? Is anyone betting on such outcome(multiple games ending with the same result)? I don't know about a sports betting platform, that offers such betting opportunity.
If the games were truly rigged, the people, who are rigging them would try everything they can to hide this. Ending in a same result looks too obvious. At the end of the day, such coincidences happen from time to time.

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What a load of rubbish. The 'evidence' is not such, as has been mentioned. It is not the first time someone has confused something improbable, and statistically curious, with something impossible.

Being struck by lightning is extremely unlikely, and a quarter of a million people are struck by lightning every year. Some of them a short time apart. Some people have been struck by lightning more than once in their lives, etc. The OP could apply the argument that clouds are 'rigged'.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 01:10:39 PM

Proof:
https://twitter.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1569024965391056898?s=20&t=kMy7E-HY2yNV-jEnzESVJw

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Is this truly a coincidence?!

Cheesy

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

Things that may seem to be very unlikely happen all the time, how many people win the lottery each day with probabilities of less than one in a million? I don't really have the data but I suppose this happens every single day.

So when you think about that then three games which in a row end with the same score do not seem to be that special anymore, besides if whoever was cheating had such control over the games don't you think they'll try to make it less obvious?

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 12, 2022, 06:54:23 PM

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 01:10:39 PM

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

Can you only provide one example? If you think that the on-going FIBA Eurobasket is rigged, there should be lots of examples.

Do you have a bet on that match, pre-game betting, or a live bet? Maybe you got the loss that's why you end up in that speculation and you should just accept it as that's part of the gambling.

Euro Basketball build its reputation for years. They won't ruin their reputation in FIBA games. Or if you are referring to officiating, there should be big controversies raised after that match.

We've seen nothing or issues been raised but cant really deny that out of those 3 games in a row ending up on the same results will really boggle up someones mind and having those
impressions that it might be rigged but those things would be really just staying up to be some hunch and as long its not been proven out then lets just simply ignore it out.
Scores could really be identical and having similar results doesnt automatically means that it was rigged.Its true that they wont really be messing up their reputation of the entire
organization that they had built up for too long.Rigged games does exist but as long it wont be proved out then we do just simply make those words.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 01:10:39 PM

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

Can you only provide one example? If you think that the on-going FIBA Eurobasket is rigged, there should be lots of examples.

Do you have a bet on that match, pre-game betting, or a live bet? Maybe you got the loss that's why you end up in that speculation and you should just accept it as that's part of the gambling.

Euro Basketball build its reputation for years. They won't ruin their reputation in FIBA games. Or if you are referring to officiating, there should be big controversies raised after that match.

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It's not a proof as everyone says. I say it's a mere coincidence or luck. Team deciding what the final score is too hard as well.
Basketball is too hard to rigged just like what score shows. I wonder if there's a successful fixed match in basketball that includes a fixed number of score not just a win and loss.

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It's just pure coincidence for me, and I don't think that everyone or at least players of both teams are going to collude with each other to have the same score in the end. Because sooner or later, if FIBA found out, for sure sanctions are going to be imposed on those who get involved. As what we have a saying locally "the ball is round", meaning everything can happen that is totally unexpected.

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Nope, I will not think that these matches are rigged. There's no way that they'll obviously do such a thing. It is quite a cool coincidence that 3 consecutive matches was able to score the same scores as the previous matches. If this happens with an absurdly high or low score such as 70-80 or 130-100 then I might think of it as a rigged match but the scores are just normal range for a basketball match.

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Quote from: iv4n on September 12, 2022, 03:03:53 PM

This is not proof! I am trying to imagine how can this be done, but there's no way to rigge a basketball game like this, to be the exact same result in 3 games. I am not sure how many people should be involved in this and to make it happen, I simply can't imagine that situation!

It's easy to create conspiracy theories, and some of them can be true, but this looks too foolish to me!

Maybe this is just a perfect coincidence and having that kind of score in 3 games looks like it is well planned. This is still basketball though, and other countries are fighting for the title so I don’t think this theory is true and maybe the game just ended the same thing. Well, the chain broke in 4th game which I think this theory can now be invalidated.

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