FIBA's EuroBasket is rigged with a proof - page 2.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Proof:
https://twitter.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1569024965391056898?s=20&t=kMy7E-HY2yNV-jEnzESVJw

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Is this truly a coincidence?!

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Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

Proof would be an undercover journalist recording the coach of each team stating that they're going to force the outcome before the game. You have provided proof of nothing but a statistical anomaly which is bound to crop up over time. Just the same way you might find 5 premier league matches turn up zero goals scored in a row - these players supposedly worth tens of millions cannot score goals, their only job? In reality if you care to type "Average points in a eurobasket game" and just browse the results, you'll see it is pretty much the average for a basketball game to end up within the 200 points scored range - which almost perfectly fits with the numbers you have presented. People have a great habit of seeing patterns where there are none, and three examples out of hundreds of basketball games played each year is a shockingly bad example and nowhere near evidence of anything.

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This is not proof! I am trying to imagine how can this be done, but there's no way to rigge a basketball game like this, to be the exact same result in 3 games. I am not sure how many people should be involved in this and to make it happen, I simply can't imagine that situation!

It's easy to create conspiracy theories, and some of them can be true, but this looks too foolish to me!

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 11, 2022, 04:00:53 PM

most likely a coincidence, I mean rigging a game so the score would be 94-86 is extremely hard especially if it is basketball. referees, single players or even several players being in on it(rigging the game) wouldn't be able to pull it off.

This is very true and also let's assume it was rigged, what would Fiba or anyone else gain from making these results? Just making fun of people, organization and game of basketball? As it was mentioned above, rigging a game like this is extremely hard, and having three games this way is also extremely hard.

Fiba have had huge problems in this tournament. Complaints are through the roof. Almost every team had an incident that and they complained. The referees are another issue. There were some horrible calls and horrible mistakes that caused result of the games were altered. But I don't think this rigging the game scores thing is an issue and it must be just a coincidence. There are bigger problems that are needed to be focused on.

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Proof doesn't mean what you think it means. Proof would be like a ref coming out and saying it was rigged and even with that there would be questions but it wouldn't held up in court. The best thing to do here is to find real proof, not a fact that you have seen three games ending in the same result, by logic if you win a game where you win 0.1% of the time, you could still win it 100 times in a row, is it improbable?

Of course, but it is not "impossible" so if you do it then you can't say it is rigged, same here, yeah 3 games in a row is unlikely, but it is still not impossible and proof of nothing. The game play by play doesn't mean anything at all neither.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Proof:
https://twitter.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1569024965391056898?s=20&t=kMy7E-HY2yNV-jEnzESVJw

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Is this truly a coincidence?!

Cheesy

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

I do think that this is purely based on coincidence. I mean, FIBA's EuroBasket is heavily regulated and secured given that it is done internationally. With that level of competition, I also doubt that the teams and the players would subject themselves to the potential risk of investigation in the event that they indeed rigged the match. This will not only destroy their reputation but also ruin their respective careers as well.

These things happen; even the things that may seem rigged happens coincidentally with all the odds and possibilities wanting to happen. In addition, if I were to rig a game, I would not ever do it three (3) games in a row with the same score- at least give it some gap per game to make it less obvious.

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I believe it can be coincidence, because if the games were rigged, why would they make 3 games in a row end up with the same exact result? When people want to fake something they disguise and mask it most as possible to lead the public to believe that was a normal, common and legit result. However, in the way is has happened on the situation above they would be bringing a lot of suspicion and concerns over them. Definitely not interesting for cheaters fixing matches.

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That IMO is just purely coincidence. What are they going to gain from making the scores the same across all games anyway? Wins on insider betting? The team managers are surely rich enough to not care about monetary profits. There are no viewership shares for FIBA teams, just plain competition of skills between countries. Also, a lot of analysts would surely be pointing their fingers if there is something amiss on the games that are being held on the said competition.

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If you were to go through the history of NBA games and analyze all the results, you'd find a lot of weird coincidences just like this one.

For example:
On March 15, 2021, San Antonio Spurs defeated Detroit Pistons 109-99; on the same night, just an hour later, Los Angeles Clippers defeated Dallas Mavericks 109-99. Just two days later, the Spurs beat the Bulls 109-99. Grin

Source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_games-march.html

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It's Fiba Euro and I wonder if there's really an intention to do this. IMO, this is just a coincidence. Well, these circumstances and results can be shown maybe a few times in a life time.
But to think that this is a rig, I don't think that the whole FIBA EURO will put a stain on their reputation for being a league that's known and with reputable players/athletes.

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Quote from: Rikafip on September 12, 2022, 06:59:17 AM

You can find "move topic" button in the bottom left corner.

Thanks, it's done.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Chances are very low, but it is possible of course.

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Is this truly a coincidence?!

Yes, just a coincidence.

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

You would need players and coaches involved in that as well, not just the referees. And even with all of them them involved it would be extremely hard to rig something like that.

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Yes, you make sense. How do you move the thread please?

You can find "move topic" button in the bottom left corner.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 11, 2022, 11:38:19 PM

Both 94 and 86 are not uncommon scores in basketball (not like e.g. 49 or 162).

3 times in a row (almost 4, with the Czech Republic adding 2 pts to that number)...

It's extremely unlikely.

Check the play by play record if you want to see more:

https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/game/1109/Ukraine-Poland#|tab=play_by_play

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1st free throw made

Now why would Ukraine foul if they are losing by 7 points with 5 seconds to go? Or to be more precise, why would the ref call it a foul? (check the replay please!)

Here's another one for you:

https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/game/1109/Finland-Croatia#tab=play_by_play

Why another foul is called, 21 seconds to go surprisingly this time no one is fouling.

This one as well with Italy:
https://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2022/game/1109/Serbia-Italy#|tab=play_by_play

Again a foul called 5 seconds to go.

Not that this number (94-86) has any meaning (it's not even part of the odds - maybe the spread/total in live betting) - but you gotta ask yourself these questions about the integrity of these events.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Proof:

That's not proof.

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Why don't you tell us. Is it 1 in a million, one in a billion, etc probability?

Quote from: bitbollo on September 11, 2022, 05:34:34 PM

Statistically these results are hard to be achieved (3 in a row)

Again, how "hard"? Where is the math?

Both 94 and 86 are not uncommon scores in basketball (not like e.g. 49 or 162).

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 11, 2022, 04:00:53 PM

anyway, the thread would be more appropriate for gambling discussion instead of here on the scam accusation board.

Yes, you make sense. How do you move the thread please?

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yes this topic belong definitely to gambling board...
if you don't have any valid (and real) proof , such kinds of comments are just pure speculation, baseless accusation Sad

Statistically these results are hard to be achieved (3 in a row) but it can happens! It's really hard if not really impossible for a referee have such interference with final score. I don't think there is any rigged match here Sad

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most likely a coincidence, I mean rigging a game so the score would be 94-86 is extremely hard especially if it is basketball. referees, single players or even several players being in on it(rigging the game) wouldn't be able to pull it off.

anyway, the thread would be more appropriate for gambling discussion instead of here on the scam accusation board.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on September 11, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

I think it's unlikely that the matches were rigged, though if they were, they certainly wouldn't do it so blatantly obvious. In this case, I'm betting on pure coincidence.

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Proof:
https://twitter.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1569024965391056898?s=20&t=kMy7E-HY2yNV-jEnzESVJw

Seriously, how likely is it that 3 games in a row will end up 94-86 each one?

Is this truly a coincidence?!

Cheesy

Or perhaps we can all say that FIBA is rigging the games somehow using the referees or through something like that.

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