Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 296. (Read 65855 times)

I think everyone has their opinion and we must respect them.
Brazil was a strong team - I couldn't get Neymar off my mind for days when they lost to Croatia -after I saw him crying

Even in this age he is far stronger than most of the player.
He is a diamond and a legend and he wont go off the people mind for long.

The bolded part of you quoting me hopefully sufficiently summarizes what you then put into words again. Actually, my part points the dominance even more out than your post as 1 : 8 is 12.5% for CONMEBOL while 2 : 13 is 15.4% for CONMEBOL.

Still I think that the variance is still quite huge. Now it's true that Europe is dominant, but at times the dominant number of Europe having 29 appearances in the final doesn't sometimes quite reflect how close many of the games actually were. In the semi finals of 2006, who would actually blindly ever guess that Brazil faced Turkey and Germany faced South Korea and both games were decided by a single goal.

I think that in soccer there is sometimes more variance in the game than in tennis, for example. But this is a discussion that could go on forever.

As far as the statistics currently go, you are right in so far as if someone had to bet his or her life on the World Cup winner coming either from CONMEBOL or UEFA, one should of course bet on UEFA. But if it's all about a single team, lots of people would have said "France" last year and would have lost, even more so if they had the choice to choose between Argentina and France after the first group stage game!

Friend  12 vs 10 titles?
12+10=22
22x4=88
Do you want to discuss a period of 88 years? 
I think the easiest thing is to take the last 5 championships (20 years is one or two generations at most) and see how many teams from Europe were in the top three and how many from COMNEBOL. I have a hunch that we won't see any superiority of COMNEBOL that supposedly should be there (since they're stronger lol).
Little hint for Sithara007: 13 places for Europe and 2 for COMNEBOL.

As i say:
1.Europe
2...
3...
4...
5...all others

Argentina isn't any stronger than France. But generally speaking, I would say that it is more or less even when you look at the total World Cup titles won between the two associations. It is 12 for UEFA and 10 for CONMEBOL. That's not really indicating any statistically significant advantages of one association over the other considering the full history. You could argue though that recently, like the 20 years before the Qatar World Cup, Europe pretty heavily dominated the World Cups. in 2006, 2010, 2014 and 2018 there was just one single CONMEBOL team reaching the final (which was Argentina in 2014 against Germany). But to be fair the 2014 final could have gone either way as much as the 2022 final could have gone either way.

I would say that the history is even too short to actually draw some serious conclusions when it comes to World Cup winners. Five finals since 1994 ended with additional extra time three of which ended in a penalty shootout. I think that it's usually not the case that there is one overwhelming favorite. I guess nobody expected Argentina to win this World Cup after starting with a loss against Saudi Arabia!

Talking about the past Qatar world cup. the wind of fortune blows strong for Argentina. not infrequently, in every game Argentina always gets a penalty. in fact, Argentina does not have a depth of players that are too good and shining, with the exception of Messi and D Maria. instead, Argentina lost far when referring based on the depth of the team owned by France and England. it's just that, the Argentinian players have very solid teamwork plus a bit of luck and that's what brought them to be champions.

while Brazil, should have been in the world cup yesterday Brazil is a team that has privileges with its players. it's a shame, Tite prefers players he likes. whereas, there is a senior player who is better than Richarlison namely, Firmino. plus, playing players who are not at their best and one of them is Raphina, even though, Martinelli is very reliable. but, that's football. that a good team in terms of player depth, the talents of each individual, especially skills, may not necessarily be able to win a championship.

So, in the 2026 world cup later. we don't have any idea yet, who will be the favorites to become the champion candidate.

You write incredible nonsense, sorry. Argentina is much stronger than France? That is why it could only win in the penalty shootout (twice in the tournament lol). And in any case, I'm not talking about single results - I suggest you look at more extensive statistics. Statistically, Europe is above all. And only then in the basement COMNEBOL is better than other regions, but this is only a struggle between the weak, nothing more.

Many good teams who were able to perform well in the previous World Cup did not qualify for this World Cup. But it is expected that the rest of the teams will be well prepared for the next World Cup.

isn't it a bit too early to start a thread about the next world cup? it's 4 years away

Brazil will face Argentina in the finals, craziest game ever ending 2x1 for Brazil with a goal in the last 5 minutes.

tuff story

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jokes apart
do we already know where the world cup will take place?

So, according to you, Brazil was unlucky for losing in a semi-final penalty shootout, but at the same time, Argentina is the strongest for winning the final, also in a penalty shootout? That's absurd!


And Italy didn't even qualify for WC 2022. But that doesn't mean it's a weak team.

Fifa world ranking Is bit contradictory to recent wrd Cup performances , may be they ranked according to overall performances . Argentina is definitely strongest of all but this time Brazil were really unlucky as they were knocked out by Croatia in quarter-finals in penalty shootout.  And Belgium didn't even made it to quarter-finals.

I will count England also not so good, maybe they can be in the European Cup final but I see it is not that impressive and the worst thing is that fourth place Belgium has not shown any achievements and it is quite disappointing, the most impressive are Croatia quite stable even though they have never won any throphy, but for the next World Cup will show another impressive? still be awaited.

I think the list is about right with the balance of powers at issue at the moment. But the Netherlands was the worst of all teams together with Belgium. Belgium has had its golden age and now a new batch will be ready to take over. Brazil has often been number 1 in the ranking together with France for years, but has not won anything for a long time. Croatia actually did very well, a final in 2018 and a semi-final in Qatar. And eventually finished 3rd. For England it is still not possible to win a major prize. Maybe at the upcoming championships.

He is probably referring to the FIFA World Rankings table post-World Cup in Qatar, where Brazil and Argentina hold the top two spots, making them the two highest-ranked teams in the world.



As for the second part of his statement about France and the European teams, I fully agree that it's ridiculous. Luck does indeed have a role in these competitions, but suggesting that a team had better luck in facing a specific opponent in the knockout phase is irrelevant. In the same vein, one could argue that Argentina was lucky in the final as they defeated France only through penalty kicks and not through regular play. Furthermore, there hasn't been a World Cup without at least one European team in the final since 1950.

You do know that Brazil was kicked out of the World Cup in quarterfinal game by Croatia? I'm not saying that Croatia has a better team than Brazil, but saying that Brazil was one of the two strongest teams in the World Cup is ridiculous. Your other statement that France managed to get to the finals by avoiding good opponents goes into the same category. They beat England in the quarterfinal and you are saying that they avoided good opponents? England isn't a good opponent?

The two strongest teams in Qatar 2022 were Argentina and Brazil. No one will deny that. All the other teams (including European teams such as France and Spain) would rank much below them. I agree that France managed to reach the finals, but they were lucky to avoid good opponents during the knockout phase. And one more thing. European teams perform well only when the tournaments are staged in Europe. This time the tournament was being held in Qatar, and teams such as Germany and Belgium had a horrible run.

Well, responding your posts.
Currently, as incredible as it may seem, European teams are better than those in South America (generally speaking), I believe that the only teams that stand out and are a reference the world level they are Brazil and Argentina. A long time ago, Uruguay was a strong team that was always standing out.

What I was able to perceive is, currently, several countries around the world are investing in football, this is a fact, and the response we had about this is, small teams winning against big teams in the 2022 World Cup and also in 2018 and that will be the trend, I believe that in 2026 we will have other surprises!

Another factor I would like to share with you guys, is that the technical level of several teams around the world has been decreasing, for example Germany, Brazil, Uruguay, Italy and others, are one of the examples.

Mainly Brazil, which in my point of view has reduced its technical level compared to previous cups.

I believe that the Brazil team in 2002 was a perfect team, we had Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Kaka and others. Several of those players I mentioned won several significant awards in their careers, I have no doubt that the 2002 Brazil team scared the whole world, that team was literally a dream team.

And currently, Brazil only has Neymar as a reference, and I have no doubt that he unbalances the team, that is a fact, because he is an excellent player, but unfortunately only Neymar cannot carry the Brazilian team on his back

How come i never knew that Ronaldo is older than Messi, and yet, Ronaldo looked younger while Messi looked older, ive always thought that Messi was older,  , how wrong i was..\

Anyways, if both of them are still going to play in the coming world cup, much shouldn't be expected from them since they are no longer as strong as they used to be, on a normal circumstance, they should just retire and let the younger players take over the field, because it will never be possible for them to play for ever, no matter how good they are, and their individual team should start to learn to play well with out Messi and Ronaldo in their midst, because, at some point, they will  have to play without this people, so why not start now?.

I honestly had the same thought mate, but lately, I realized that maybe the can still play and be with their respective teams because even if they're not on the height of their prime anymore. Their experience and presence will somehow help the team because they are there supporting them as a player, not just a spectator that doesn't have any roles for the team. Especially Messi because aside from the fact that he is a bit younger than Ronaldo, he will gladly play with the team again as they are the defending champs.

  Are you constantly posting this to troll? The superiority of the European region is undeniable. First comes Europe and then a few floors below the rest of the regions. Look at the statistics for probably any period (adequate and not "50 years ago") and you will see that Europe dominates. This is a statistical fact and not a matter of personal preference.