FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 323.

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Quote from: slackovic on January 10, 2023, 05:08:35 AM

You can never have all locations in the world evenly represented in the FIFA World Cup because European countries play better football and more of them qualifies. It's just a matter of which sport is more popular (and funded). The same thing is with some other sport that's not as popular in Europe as in other parts of the world. For example, you can't expect that many European countries will qualify for a world championship in cricket.

Let me ask you a very straightforward question. Do you believe that a majority of the European teams would be able to perform well in the FIFA World Cup, if the players of immigrant background decides to play for their country of origin? Imagine a French squad without players such as Kylian Mbappé, Ousmane Dembélé, Paul Pogba, Karim Benzema and Kingsley Coman. Will they even manage to qualify for the world cup? The same can be said about 80% of the UEFA teams. Only a few such as Croatia and Poland are having 100% native squads.

I don't have any issues with UEFA teams including (or stealing) players from AFC/CAF countries. But then it should not be done at the expense of these poorer nations. For the 2022 World Cup, 13 slots were allotted to UEFA nations and just 5 for the CAF. That doesn't sound fair. Even for the 2026 edition, UEFA is being given 16 slots, compared to 9.5 for the CAF.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:11 PM

Quote from: Hispo on January 09, 2023, 08:40:55 PM

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I see your point and it is a valid one, entire continents does not have representation in such and important event worldwide, besides the fact those matches you referenced were indeed interesting and entertaining. Some people may argue that those countries with no representation do not get any because they are not good enough. I would disagree with that latter point of view.

How knows? if this next world cup gets to be excellent and more entertaining from the inclusion of more teams then it could become an standard for years to come.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:11 PM

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I have mentioned manytimes before, I remain as a strong supporter of the decision by FIFA to increase the number of participants to 48. As we have seen from Qatar 2022, some of the most entertaining matches involved teams that would struggle to qualify for a 32-team event (I am talking about teams such as Cameroon, Morocco and South Korea).

Cameroon is on the best team in Africa winning multiple African nations tournament and they have defeated Brazil in World Cup tournament, Morocco won the African nations tournament consecutively recently and they were in great form and that showed in this World Cup as well. South Korea and Japan are the best teams in Asia and only the best team from the 6 continental zones participates in the World Cup and hence you see entertaining matches.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:11 PM

Also, when we are calling this tournament as a world cup, there is a requirement to ensure representation from all the geographies around the world. Look at the map below, and please let me know whether you find this representation or not:

There are zones allocated for each continent and only the best team qualifies and if you water down by adding more teams, the quality will go down. There is no equal representation, only the best compete, you either improve the performance and perform to get included or move aside Grin

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:11 PM

Quote from: Hispo on January 09, 2023, 08:40:55 PM

My guess is that FIFA want to put Qatar behind and start off with the right foot in North America.
Besides, they may believe that changing the size of the tournament could bring more attention and profit to the next World Cup. It may have something too do that this next time it will be a bigger event (geographically) and plan to do it bigger on all sense.

Bigger does not mean better, though. I remain neutral to that decision.

I have mentioned manytimes before, I remain as a strong supporter of the decision by FIFA to increase the number of participants to 48. As we have seen from Qatar 2022, some of the most entertaining matches involved teams that would struggle to qualify for a 32-team event (I am talking about teams such as Cameroon, Morocco and South Korea). Also, when we are calling this tournament as a world cup, there is a requirement to ensure representation from all the geographies around the world. Look at the map below, and please let me know whether you find this representation or not:

i am also in favor of having more teams in the next world cup, but this will not give any advantage to africa in terms of increasing the chance of winning the world cup, but it will give africa the joy of seeing more teams in the world cup , I think that someone like me who is African already know who will be the teams that will always be in the world cup even when the number of teams increase for the next world cup, senegal, morocco, ghana, nigeria, tunisia, Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Egypt, Mali, Togo or Angola will be the teams that will always be in the World Cup

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on January 10, 2023, 06:24:50 AM

What I just read here is strange to me, though I had read a thing like that online before but I did not take it seriously. This means that there are now becoming adjustments or supposed advancements to the world cup, I only hope that this adjustment would be a positive one. It's still a litmus test now, and it would require people to shift their location for a single year world cup which I don't think it's really cool when it comes to stress, accommodation and visa arrangements.

However, among the three countries listed to co-host the 2026 world cup, it's only Canada that has not hosted it before, why can't they give them the benefits of doing that once and for all as they always do for the chosen country?

I also saw these suggestions about new world cup format, like they plan for it to become year long thing. I feel its not valid for Canada-USA-Mexico cup tho. FIFA can't decide what kind of format they should use. They wanna increase teams but they want World cup to stay very enjoyable tournament. I think traditional monthly cup format is fine and should stay. I also dislike there are 3 hosts to this cup. There should be just one in my opinion.

1 - if they keep the same model, teams will never have the opportunity to enter the world cup

2 - if only 1 country organizes the world cup, then we will never see other countries organizing the world cup, see that there are 4 years a world cup, so if every 4 years there is 1 country organizing the world cup, in that century all countries in the world will organize the world cup

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on January 10, 2023, 06:24:50 AM

What I just read here is strange to me, though I had read a thing like that online before but I did not take it seriously. This means that there are now becoming adjustments or supposed advancements to the world cup, I only hope that this adjustment would be a positive one. It's still a litmus test now, and it would require people to shift their location for a single year world cup which I don't think it's really cool when it comes to stress, accommodation and visa arrangements.

However, among the three countries listed to co-host the 2026 world cup, it's only Canada that has not hosted it before, why can't they give them the benefits of doing that once and for all as they always do for the chosen country?

I also saw these suggestions about new world cup format, like they plan for it to become year long thing. I feel its not valid for Canada-USA-Mexico cup tho. FIFA can't decide what kind of format they should use. They wanna increase teams but they want World cup to stay very enjoyable tournament. I think traditional monthly cup format is fine and should stay. I also dislike there are 3 hosts to this cup. There should be just one in my opinion.

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What I just read here is strange to me, though I had read a thing like that online before but I did not take it seriously. This means that there are now becoming adjustments or supposed advancements to the world cup, I only hope that this adjustment would be a positive one. It's still a litmus test now, and it would require people to shift their location for a single year world cup which I don't think it's really cool when it comes to stress, accommodation and visa arrangements.

However, among the three countries listed to co-host the 2026 world cup, it's only Canada that has not hosted it before, why can't they give them the benefits of doing that once and for all as they always do for the chosen country?

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Quote from: slackovic on January 10, 2023, 06:10:33 AM

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Quote from: slackovic on January 10, 2023, 05:08:35 AM

You can never have all locations in the world evenly represented in the FIFA World Cup because European countries play better football and more of them qualifies. It's just a matter of which sport is more popular (and funded). The same thing is with some other sport that's not as popular in Europe as in other parts of the world. For example, you can't expect that many European countries will qualify for a world championship in cricket.

That's true European countries are dominating football world and that's why Morocco when made it to semi-final this year was a shock and surprise for whole world . And as far as Asia is concerned there are still no football teams representing in fifa like Pakistan and India and these teams are dominating in cricket world so that's they difference.
I hope so among 48 teams in 2026 Pakistan and India should be inside it .

Coming from Europe, I don't like the fact that FIFA decided to increase the number of teams participating in the World Cup. I don't have anything against teams outside Europe like Pakistan and India competing but I don't want to see a bunch of games in the World Cup ending with goal difference of five or more goals.

Fifa just wants to cover the fans from all parts of the world and all continents that's why they have increased number of games in qualifying round . Which is a good move from my point of view as that will promote football in all parts of world except from Europe and Africa.

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Quote from: Naficopa on January 10, 2023, 05:54:20 AM

Quote from: slackovic on January 10, 2023, 05:08:35 AM

You can never have all locations in the world evenly represented in the FIFA World Cup because European countries play better football and more of them qualifies. It's just a matter of which sport is more popular (and funded). The same thing is with some other sport that's not as popular in Europe as in other parts of the world. For example, you can't expect that many European countries will qualify for a world championship in cricket.

That's true European countries are dominating football world and that's why Morocco when made it to semi-final this year was a shock and surprise for whole world . And as far as Asia is concerned there are still no football teams representing in fifa like Pakistan and India and these teams are dominating in cricket world so that's they difference.
I hope so among 48 teams in 2026 Pakistan and India should be inside it .

Coming from Europe, I don't like the fact that FIFA decided to increase the number of teams participating in the World Cup. I don't have anything against teams outside Europe like Pakistan and India competing but I don't want to see a bunch of games in the World Cup ending with goal difference of five or more goals.

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Quote from: slackovic on January 10, 2023, 05:08:35 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:11 PM

Quote from: Hispo on January 09, 2023, 08:40:55 PM

My guess is that FIFA want to put Qatar behind and start off with the right foot in North America.
Besides, they may believe that changing the size of the tournament could bring more attention and profit to the next World Cup. It may have something too do that this next time it will be a bigger event (geographically) and plan to do it bigger on all sense.

Bigger does not mean better, though. I remain neutral to that decision.

I have mentioned manytimes before, I remain as a strong supporter of the decision by FIFA to increase the number of participants to 48. As we have seen from Qatar 2022, some of the most entertaining matches involved teams that would struggle to qualify for a 32-team event (I am talking about teams such as Cameroon, Morocco and South Korea). Also, when we are calling this tournament as a world cup, there is a requirement to ensure representation from all the geographies around the world. Look at the map below, and please let me know whether you find this representation or not:

You can never have all locations in the world evenly represented in the FIFA World Cup because European countries play better football and more of them qualifies. It's just a matter of which sport is more popular (and funded). The same thing is with some other sport that's not as popular in Europe as in other parts of the world. For example, you can't expect that many European countries will qualify for a world championship in cricket.

That's true European countries are dominating football world and that's why Morocco when made it to semi-final this year was a shock and surprise for whole world . And as far as Asia is concerned there are still no football teams representing in fifa like Pakistan and India and these teams are dominating in cricket world so that's they difference.
I hope so among 48 teams in 2026 Pakistan and India should be inside it .

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:11 PM

Quote from: Hispo on January 09, 2023, 08:40:55 PM

My guess is that FIFA want to put Qatar behind and start off with the right foot in North America.
Besides, they may believe that changing the size of the tournament could bring more attention and profit to the next World Cup. It may have something too do that this next time it will be a bigger event (geographically) and plan to do it bigger on all sense.

Bigger does not mean better, though. I remain neutral to that decision.

I have mentioned manytimes before, I remain as a strong supporter of the decision by FIFA to increase the number of participants to 48. As we have seen from Qatar 2022, some of the most entertaining matches involved teams that would struggle to qualify for a 32-team event (I am talking about teams such as Cameroon, Morocco and South Korea). Also, when we are calling this tournament as a world cup, there is a requirement to ensure representation from all the geographies around the world. Look at the map below, and please let me know whether you find this representation or not:

You can never have all locations in the world evenly represented in the FIFA World Cup because European countries play better football and more of them qualifies. It's just a matter of which sport is more popular (and funded). The same thing is with some other sport that's not as popular in Europe as in other parts of the world. For example, you can't expect that many European countries will qualify for a world championship in cricket.

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Quote from: rdluffy on January 09, 2023, 04:33:07 PM

Which kind of events are you talking about gagux123?

Well, I believe I was very generalist when I mentioned "event", but I was referring to the World Cup what will happen in 2026.
I have no doubt that this type of ""event"" (World Cup) is one of the most famous and expected nowadays.

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Quote from: Hispo on January 09, 2023, 08:40:55 PM

My guess is that FIFA want to put Qatar behind and start off with the right foot in North America.
Besides, they may believe that changing the size of the tournament could bring more attention and profit to the next World Cup. It may have something too do that this next time it will be a bigger event (geographically) and plan to do it bigger on all sense.

Bigger does not mean better, though. I remain neutral to that decision.

I have mentioned manytimes before, I remain as a strong supporter of the decision by FIFA to increase the number of participants to 48. As we have seen from Qatar 2022, some of the most entertaining matches involved teams that would struggle to qualify for a 32-team event (I am talking about teams such as Cameroon, Morocco and South Korea). Also, when we are calling this tournament as a world cup, there is a requirement to ensure representation from all the geographies around the world. Look at the map below, and please let me know whether you find this representation or not:

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Quote from: nullama on January 09, 2023, 07:19:21 PM

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My guess is that FIFA want to put Qatar behind and start off with the right foot in North America.
Besides, they may believe that changing the size of the tournament could bring more attention and profit to the next World Cup. It may have something too do that this next time it will be a bigger event (geographically) and plan to do it bigger on all sense.

Bigger does not mean better, though. I remain neutral to that decision.

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I'm not sure if it's a good thing to increase the number of teams qualifying for the World Cup 2026.

For example, in South America, about 70% of the teams would be able to qualify:

That's quite a lot really, the next world cup will start almost like a second round of qualification because there are so many teams there already.

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OP: The first thing, I think that you should have done a self-moderated thread, it is possible that your thread full of many opinions and nothing about the World Cup 2026, because there are many things that are not yet known.

If it were up to me, I would put a lock on this thread and open it when official things are known, and so on until I take it to the year 2026.

So hopefully we're here in continuity for a thread with a projection to its main theme 3 years in advance. Now, You are "fever" or you dreamed of having a World Cup thread.(?)

The situation around the subject is so poor in the real discussion that the last relevant thing that was officially said around the subject happened three weeks ago:
World Cup 2022: Fifa to reconsider format of 2026 World Cup after 'best ever' tournament

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Quote from: Chikito on December 25, 2022, 10:39:00 PM

I'm Just confused about Russia, are they still banned for 2026?

Another 3 years of war and killing their own and other people is probably more important a problem then sending a team to kick a ball. Closer then that I doubt Russia is allowed back to any normal play while continuing on, there is really no context for a fair game against that backdrop of death; doesnt make much sense to me.

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We are basically lamenting on this particular issue why the next FIFA World cup have not even fast-approaching we still have more time and they more years to come before the match will come up so I don't think that it is proper for me to be discussing of this particular match that will have not if you come close to discuss about

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I think it's a good idea to have 2 countries or even more hosting the World Cup because one country maybe don't have all the infrastructure to make the whole World Cup, and it helps football spreading in even more countries.
But my ideal of World Cup would be every 2 years instead of 4 and with 32 countries.

It is a good method for the development of infrastructures and increasing interest in football, but the same may not be true for footballers whose travel times will increase. If the distance between stadiums increases, group matches and final matches can have a tiring tempo. I think FIFA should pay attention to this.

On the other hand, it is a very good idea to organize the World Cup every two years. In this way, we will be able to watch some football players more. For example, the probability of Messi playing in the next World Cup is very low. However, if the World Cup organization was held every two years, we could definitely watch Messi once again.

This is why I'm talking about World Cup every 2 years, I know how it works, I know it's special because it's every 4 years, but I have some points, like:
--> UEFA Champions League happens every year, and it's a huge event, every football fan watch at least quarter finals, semi and finals.
--> Some good players lost their chance to play because it's every 4 years, it's usual to have lots of injuries near the time of World Cup, like Kante, Benzema, Pogba, Lo Celso, Sadio Mané, Coutinho etc, in my opinion, every 2 years is a better chance for all players to play at least 1 or 2 World Cups
--> Qualifies could be shorter, and Fifa always find their way.
--> Time to prepare the country should not be a problem, since you can chose the country several years before.

Quote from: gagux123 on January 08, 2023, 04:39:48 PM

I didn't know much about this topic, but I thought it was very relevant to discuss this great event that will occur in 2026!

Guys, i have a question... do you believe that in the next World Cup we will have several other unforeseen events!!?

Which kind of events are you talking about gagux123?

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Quote from: BobK71 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:45 AM

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Quote from: flipme on January 08, 2023, 10:39:56 AM

Quote from: rdluffy on January 07, 2023, 03:46:02 PM

I think it's a good idea to have 2 countries or even more hosting the World Cup because one country maybe don't have all the infrastructure to make the whole World Cup, and it helps football spreading in even more countries.
But my ideal of World Cup would be every 2 years instead of 4 and with 32 countries.

It is a good method for the development of infrastructures and increasing interest in football, but the same may not be true for footballers whose travel times will increase. If the distance between stadiums increases, group matches and final matches can have a tiring tempo. I think FIFA should pay attention to this.

On the other hand, it is a very good idea to organize the World Cup every two years. In this way, we will be able to watch some football players more. For example, the probability of Messi playing in the next World Cup is very low. However, if the World Cup organization was held every two years, we could definitely watch Messi once again.

2026 World Cup Many big stars may not be able to participate in the World Cup due to age restrictions. There are many other big stars like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo who will not be able to play in the World Cup in 2026. In this case, although they want to, their age is the biggest obstacle. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, who are now young, will not be able to maintain this youth in 2026, their speed will slow down. And getting the ball into the opposing team's net will not be possible later as it is now. The two legends of the football world have very little chance of participating in the 2026 World Cup.

I don't know what Cristiano Ronaldo will do. But the way Lionel Messi is wanted by his team, he can play another World Cup. But he can't hide himself if everyone wants him. And if he stays in the next World Cup, Argentina can have another successful World Cup. I don't think it will be too much of a problem if he is 39 in the next World Cup. But how will his performance be after 4 years that will be the great concern.

If am asked, I would say that it would have made much sense for him (Messi) to just retire, he's done his country proud, done his team proud, done his family proud, done himself proud, what else is he still looking for in the pitch, he's won every winnable award, him coming to 2026 world cup and losing the cup would only add a dark spot to the already pure perfect history he's written/made for himself, and there would be no other chance again to correct this if it happens..
So for me, I think it would make more sense for him to just relax and start training younger ones to become like him.

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Quote from: BobK71 on January 09, 2023, 10:59:45 AM

Quote from: Popkon6 on January 08, 2023, 09:02:28 PM

Quote from: flipme on January 08, 2023, 10:39:56 AM

Quote from: rdluffy on January 07, 2023, 03:46:02 PM

I think it's a good idea to have 2 countries or even more hosting the World Cup because one country maybe don't have all the infrastructure to make the whole World Cup, and it helps football spreading in even more countries.
But my ideal of World Cup would be every 2 years instead of 4 and with 32 countries.

It is a good method for the development of infrastructures and increasing interest in football, but the same may not be true for footballers whose travel times will increase. If the distance between stadiums increases, group matches and final matches can have a tiring tempo. I think FIFA should pay attention to this.

On the other hand, it is a very good idea to organize the World Cup every two years. In this way, we will be able to watch some football players more. For example, the probability of Messi playing in the next World Cup is very low. However, if the World Cup organization was held every two years, we could definitely watch Messi once again.

2026 World Cup Many big stars may not be able to participate in the World Cup due to age restrictions. There are many other big stars like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo who will not be able to play in the World Cup in 2026. In this case, although they want to, their age is the biggest obstacle. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, who are now young, will not be able to maintain this youth in 2026, their speed will slow down. And getting the ball into the opposing team's net will not be possible later as it is now. The two legends of the football world have very little chance of participating in the 2026 World Cup.

I don't know what Cristiano Ronaldo will do. But the way Lionel Messi is wanted by his team, he can play another World Cup. But he can't hide himself if everyone wants him. And if he stays in the next World Cup, Argentina can have another successful World Cup. I don't think it will be too much of a problem if he is 39 in the next World Cup. But how will his performance be after 4 years that will be the great concern.

For Messi still have chance of playing for his team at age of 39. I think Argentina would want Messi to play in the next world cup because he is player that Argentina believes in so much. In the next 4 years their wont be much difference in Messi's performance, some players still performs very well at 40.

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