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Quote from: criptoevangelista on July 07, 2024, 03:44:47 PM

It is very difficult for Brazil in the short and medium term to return to being a power in football, the CBF is steeped in corruption and that is why great world-renowned coaches will never come to train the Brazilian team... the decadence has been going on for many years, since the 2006 world cup.

You mentioned an important point. The decadence in brazilian soccer comes since the 2006 World Cup. I remember very well when France defeated Brazil on that World Cup by 1x0 on quarter finals, and as consequence, even the legendary brazilian players who criticize the current national team today were severily criticized by the crowds on that year, including the local media which displayed each angle of the match to expose what each brazilian player was doing wrongly on decisive moments of the game against France.

None of the players were spared. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Roberto Carlos, Adriano... All these famous icons you know were "cancelled".

On that time, Brazil wasn't used to lose soccer matches yet, especially important ones, so there was a huge national commotion. Brazilians didn't accept reaching less than a final of a championship. At same time, I think it was a good shock of reality, to comprehend soccer isn't the most important thing for a country to achieve. A country shouldn't rely on it for building its reputation towards the world.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on June 29, 2024, 03:21:48 PM

The brasiliam team is in second place in group D with four points.
Incredibly, Vini Jr scored two goals, one of which almost dribbled past the goalkeeper (I think that goal is fantastic). I expected a draw or defeat for Brazil, given their current performance, this might rekindle hopes.

Yeah, the thing is that Brazil is still one the strongest teams in the world.

Sure, they might lose from time to time, but at the end of the day they are really good.

Never underestimate your rival.

Brazil lost to Uruguay, You may argue that they lost on penalties but if you watch the game, the Uruguay looked a more superior team.
No doubt, Brazil is more popular team and you will find their supporters around the globe but they can only win big matches if they perform well and the current team does not look to do so.

Besides having big names, I think it is the pressure they took on themselves and the expectation from their countrymen, make them more nervous in the knockout matches. Hardly we saw them attacking in this Euro Quarterfinal. A lot needs to be changed before Brazil is ready to participate in the World Cup as one of the stronger teams.

Even strongest teams can suffer losses from time to time. It is sports and you can't always guarantee your winnings all the time. There are so many factors in play inside the field, so losing is just around the corner if one or more of these factors are not in favour during the game.

It is said that this match was the dirtiest match so far garnering 41 fouls. But this is a game you can't control when you are inside the arena. And think about it, Brazil only won one out of 4 matches. The game with Uruguay was not their first loss. So maybe, this is not Brazil's time to go to the semi-finals.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 07, 2024, 01:49:06 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 07, 2024, 02:01:57 AM

Quote from: Franctoshi on July 05, 2024, 01:47:40 PM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on July 05, 2024, 01:35:40 PM

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The Brazilian team in last one decade slipped down from being what they used to be in terms of quality of performance, they were unmatchable when it comes to football, but today the story has changed which means nothing last forever, in terms of great performance, the current Brazilian team is only living in their past glory and any strong team who face them currently, most likely will defeat them with easy, in their match against Uruguay, if Uruguay plays well, they will be able to win the Brazilian side.

In the past, Brazil was pretty tough team, they were really feared by several other team because Brazil playing style often gave big unexpected surprises, the last time I saw Brazil play well when Neymar was still very fit.

Today Brazil played against Uruguay and they actually played quite well because they were able to hold Uruguay to 0 - 0 draw until full time and used the penalty shootout as the final determinant to qualify for the Copa America semifinals.
But unfortunately in the penalty shootout Brazil had to lose to Uruguay and this was very embarrassing defeat for Brazil, they could not get the full points to gain an advantage over Uruguay.
Brazil is full of great players who are still mostly young, but for the 2024 Copa America they were eliminated and the only hope for the future is to focus on the 2026 World Cup, if each player can further optimize their individual performance then they will definitely be able to qualify for the qualifications.
Young players still need lot of experience and development of playing skills, they may be great players when they are with their respective clubs but are still not optimal in the Brazilian national team.

The past is past and that's why Brazil won't leave it. they still stick to traditional football and use legendary players instead of having better teamwork. they still avoid using non-Brazilian coaches because they think Brazilian coaches are players who are much better than the other coaches while they are not in good form now and they are losing the good days they had before. In fact, if Brazil wants to get progress they have to use better coaches and help the younger players grow.

It is very difficult for Brazil in the short and medium term to return to being a power in football, the CBF is steeped in corruption and that is why great world-renowned coaches will never come to train the Brazilian team... the decadence has been going on for many years, since the 2006 world cup.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 07, 2024, 02:01:57 AM

Quote from: Franctoshi on July 05, 2024, 01:47:40 PM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on July 05, 2024, 01:35:40 PM

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The Brazilian team in last one decade slipped down from being what they used to be in terms of quality of performance, they were unmatchable when it comes to football, but today the story has changed which means nothing last forever, in terms of great performance, the current Brazilian team is only living in their past glory and any strong team who face them currently, most likely will defeat them with easy, in their match against Uruguay, if Uruguay plays well, they will be able to win the Brazilian side.

In the past, Brazil was pretty tough team, they were really feared by several other team because Brazil playing style often gave big unexpected surprises, the last time I saw Brazil play well when Neymar was still very fit.

Today Brazil played against Uruguay and they actually played quite well because they were able to hold Uruguay to 0 - 0 draw until full time and used the penalty shootout as the final determinant to qualify for the Copa America semifinals.
But unfortunately in the penalty shootout Brazil had to lose to Uruguay and this was very embarrassing defeat for Brazil, they could not get the full points to gain an advantage over Uruguay.
Brazil is full of great players who are still mostly young, but for the 2024 Copa America they were eliminated and the only hope for the future is to focus on the 2026 World Cup, if each player can further optimize their individual performance then they will definitely be able to qualify for the qualifications.
Young players still need lot of experience and development of playing skills, they may be great players when they are with their respective clubs but are still not optimal in the Brazilian national team.

The past is past and that's why Brazil won't leave it. they still stick to traditional football and use legendary players instead of having better teamwork. they still avoid using non-Brazilian coaches because they think Brazilian coaches are players who are much better than the other coaches while they are not in good form now and they are losing the good days they had before. In fact, if Brazil wants to get progress they have to use better coaches and help the younger players grow.

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Quote from: FanEagle on July 07, 2024, 11:01:10 AM

Brazil is country which is having enough quality players in past and present as well, but things are not as we have in past for them with their quality is at the lowest level which is surely concern for them and their fans as well with in today game they were having enough chances to bring themselves as winner, but sadly their players were not able to score any goal against 10 men opponent which give them huge setback, and then we have their exit from the Copa América on penalties which is another setback for them even we all know about the skills and quality of the soccer, but now it's time to have changes which can bring good results.

I agree with you. The Brazilian national team is currently the worst I have ever seen. This is the same as what Ronaldinho said some time ago via In my opinion, Brazil at least has very good individual quality, even though in modern football game tactics are more important than individual skill. Brazil lost on penalties and I think that shows that Brazil's current quality will keep them from being included in the list of favorites to win the 2026 world championship.

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Quote from: nullama on July 03, 2024, 10:05:13 AM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on June 29, 2024, 03:21:48 PM

The brasiliam team is in second place in group D with four points.
Incredibly, Vini Jr scored two goals, one of which almost dribbled past the goalkeeper (I think that goal is fantastic). I expected a draw or defeat for Brazil, given their current performance, this might rekindle hopes.

Yeah, the thing is that Brazil is still one the strongest teams in the world.

Sure, they might lose from time to time, but at the end of the day they are really good.

Never underestimate your rival.

Brazil lost to Uruguay, You may argue that they lost on penalties but if you watch the game, the Uruguay looked a more superior team.
No doubt, Brazil is more popular team and you will find their supporters around the globe but they can only win big matches if they perform well and the current team does not look to do so.

Besides having big names, I think it is the pressure they took on themselves and the expectation from their countrymen, make them more nervous in the knockout matches. Hardly we saw them attacking in this Euro Quarterfinal. A lot needs to be changed before Brazil is ready to participate in the World Cup as one of the stronger teams.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 07, 2024, 02:01:57 AM

In the past, Brazil was pretty tough team, they were really feared by several other team because Brazil playing style often gave big unexpected surprises, the last time I saw Brazil play well when Neymar was still very fit.

Today Brazil played against Uruguay and they actually played quite well because they were able to hold Uruguay to 0 - 0 draw until full time and used the penalty shootout as the final determinant to qualify for the Copa America semifinals.
But unfortunately in the penalty shootout Brazil had to lose to Uruguay and this was very embarrassing defeat for Brazil, they could not get the full points to gain an advantage over Uruguay.
Brazil is full of great players who are still mostly young, but for the 2024 Copa America they were eliminated and the only hope for the future is to focus on the 2026 World Cup, if each player can further optimize their individual performance then they will definitely be able to qualify for the qualifications.
Young players still need lot of experience and development of playing skills, they may be great players when they are with their respective clubs but are still not optimal in the Brazilian national team.

Brazil is country which is having enough quality players in past and present as well, but things are not as we have in past for them with their quality is at the lowest level which is surely concern for them and their fans as well with in today game they were having enough chances to bring themselves as winner, but sadly their players were not able to score any goal against 10 men opponent which give them huge setback, and then we have their exit from the Copa América on penalties which is another setback for them even we all know about the skills and quality of the soccer, but now it's time to have changes which can bring good results.

Now after this exit we are heading for the world cup qualifiers which are coming in these games if they are not able to give as they needed then surely we can expect more setbacks for them with now they are near the exit point of qualifiers which is surely needs to be had some improvement.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on July 05, 2024, 01:47:40 PM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on July 05, 2024, 01:35:40 PM

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The Brazilian team in last one decade slipped down from being what they used to be in terms of quality of performance, they were unmatchable when it comes to football, but today the story has changed which means nothing last forever, in terms of great performance, the current Brazilian team is only living in their past glory and any strong team who face them currently, most likely will defeat them with easy, in their match against Uruguay, if Uruguay plays well, they will be able to win the Brazilian side.

In the past, Brazil was pretty tough team, they were really feared by several other team because Brazil playing style often gave big unexpected surprises, the last time I saw Brazil play well when Neymar was still very fit.

Today Brazil played against Uruguay and they actually played quite well because they were able to hold Uruguay to 0 - 0 draw until full time and used the penalty shootout as the final determinant to qualify for the Copa America semifinals.
But unfortunately in the penalty shootout Brazil had to lose to Uruguay and this was very embarrassing defeat for Brazil, they could not get the full points to gain an advantage over Uruguay.
Brazil is full of great players who are still mostly young, but for the 2024 Copa America they were eliminated and the only hope for the future is to focus on the 2026 World Cup, if each player can further optimize their individual performance then they will definitely be able to qualify for the qualifications.
Young players still need lot of experience and development of playing skills, they may be great players when they are with their respective clubs but are still not optimal in the Brazilian national team.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on July 05, 2024, 01:47:40 PM

The Brazilian team in last one decade slipped down from being what they used to be in terms of quality of performance, they were unmatchable when it comes to football, but today the story has changed which means nothing last forever, in terms of great performance, the current Brazilian team is only living in their past glory and any strong team who face them currently, most likely will defeat them with easy, in their match against Uruguay, if Uruguay plays well, they will be able to win the Brazilian side.

Brazil's current performance has really fallen very sharply. They are one of the best teams in the world but corruption and bad governance have cost Brazil their talented young players. Most Brazilian players who have become world football legends come from poor and crime-prone areas. And as things continue to get worse, Brazil loses its quality. I can say that maybe at the 2026 world cup for the first time I will cross Brazil off my list of favorites to win. The odds show that Brazil has the same chance as Uruguay to win the match. I'm holding Uruguay in tomorrow's game.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on July 05, 2024, 09:50:36 AM

Uruguay national football team won the match against USA team . Both team fought well and we saw great healthy competition between them . And Uruguay team won the match at the end. USA team tried to give tough time to Uruguay team but they became unsuccessful in their mission because they lose the match and could not do any single goal in this match.Olivera is a player who did goal in this match after that USA team attacked on Uruguay team but they could not goal at the end of match due to lack of skills and lack of experience. USA team could not handle the pressure of the match and lose the match. The stat of Uruguay team was excellent because the the shots of Uruguay team were more in number and passes were also more in number.

In Group C, so far in the games we saw from these teams, Uruguay was the best team, and while I was not expecting to see that coming up but Uruguay won the game against the USA with a 1-0 result and that was a great step forward for them.
However, the performance of Uruguay and the USA was close but Uruguay was a little bit more lucky.
Now even Panama got more points than the USA which is not good at all for this team since they will host the 2026 World Cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 03, 2024, 09:25:27 PM

Brazil "was" one of the strongest teams in the world. That is no longer the case. With the exception of Argentina, football power center has moved to Western Europe. At present, Brazil has near-zero chance of defeating teams such as France or England. Even against Spain and Italy, they are going to struggle. BTW, let's not forget how Brazil has performed so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers - they are at the 6th place with just 2 wins from 6 matches. Their next match is against Ecuador, and there is a good chance that they will lose that one as well.

I agree with you. The current Brazilian national team is not the same as in the past. In the past, Brazil was one of the strongest teams in the world and even their games were worth watching. They really put on a world class match. But at the moment I don't even know any current Brazilian players except for just a few names like Vinicius Jr Danillo or Alisson. In my opinion, the quality of Brazilian players at the moment is the worst in my time watching football. They will play against Uruguay and maybe for the first time I bet Uruguay will win the match.

The Brazilian team in last one decade slipped down from being what they used to be in terms of quality of performance, they were unmatchable when it comes to football, but today the story has changed which means nothing last forever, in terms of great performance, the current Brazilian team is only living in their past glory and any strong team who face them currently, most likely will defeat them with easy, in their match against Uruguay, if Uruguay plays well, they will be able to win the Brazilian side.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 03, 2024, 09:25:27 PM

Brazil "was" one of the strongest teams in the world. That is no longer the case. With the exception of Argentina, football power center has moved to Western Europe. At present, Brazil has near-zero chance of defeating teams such as France or England. Even against Spain and Italy, they are going to struggle. BTW, let's not forget how Brazil has performed so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers - they are at the 6th place with just 2 wins from 6 matches. Their next match is against Ecuador, and there is a good chance that they will lose that one as well.

I agree with you. The current Brazilian national team is not the same as in the past. In the past, Brazil was one of the strongest teams in the world and even their games were worth watching. They really put on a world class match. But at the moment I don't even know any current Brazilian players except for just a few names like Vinicius Jr Danillo or Alisson. In my opinion, the quality of Brazilian players at the moment is the worst in my time watching football. They will play against Uruguay and maybe for the first time I bet Uruguay will win the match.

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Uruguay national football team won the match against USA team . Both team fought well and we saw great healthy competition between them . And Uruguay team won the match at the end. USA team tried to give tough time to Uruguay team but they became unsuccessful in their mission because they lose the match and could not do any single goal in this match.Olivera is a player who did goal in this match after that USA team attacked on Uruguay team but they could not goal at the end of match due to lack of skills and lack of experience. USA team could not handle the pressure of the match and lose the match. The stat of Uruguay team was excellent because the the shots of Uruguay team were more in number and passes were also more in number.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 03, 2024, 09:25:27 PM

Quote from: nullama on July 03, 2024, 10:05:13 AM

Yeah, the thing is that Brazil is still one the strongest teams in the world.

Sure, they might lose from time to time, but at the end of the day they are really good.

Never underestimate your rival.

Brazil "was" one of the strongest teams in the world. That is no longer the case. With the exception of Argentina, football power center has moved to Western Europe. At present, Brazil has near-zero chance of defeating teams such as France or England. Even against Spain and Italy, they are going to struggle. BTW, let's not forget how Brazil has performed so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers - they are at the 6th place with just 2 wins from 6 matches. Their next match is against Ecuador, and there is a good chance that they will lose that one as well.

The rule is simple, whenever you have a strong team you should not just think about today and your strong team but you should also be worried about the next years when the players you have will get older.
In fact, that's something the teams like Germany will do, they will pay attention to the younger players and help them grow That's why Germany is usually one of the stronger teams in the World Cup. While Brazil didn't do that.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 03, 2024, 09:25:27 PM

Brazil "was" one of the strongest teams in the world. That is no longer the case. With the exception of Argentina, football power center has moved to Western Europe. At present, Brazil has near-zero chance of defeating teams such as France or England. Even against Spain and Italy, they are going to struggle. BTW, let's not forget how Brazil has performed so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers - they are at the 6th place with just 2 wins from 6 matches. Their next match is against Ecuador, and there is a good chance that they will lose that one as well.

Even I agree here still I feel like that we have some good talent in Brazilian team as they are fighting against time their performance in Copa América is also not good but still things are going good as they are having 2 draws and 1 win against Paraguay with now they are going to face Uruguay which is having impressive run in last few games this is testing time for them.

Change of coach is having some improvement but still they need to be had strong strategy if they want to become top team again which is not easy because as mentioned we have good improvement in European soccer which is going at the top, and they are doing amazing stuff for the improvement of their quality in last few years.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 03, 2024, 09:25:27 PM

Quote from: nullama on July 03, 2024, 10:05:13 AM

Yeah, the thing is that Brazil is still one the strongest teams in the world.

Sure, they might lose from time to time, but at the end of the day they are really good.

Never underestimate your rival.

Brazil "was" one of the strongest teams in the world. That is no longer the case. With the exception of Argentina, football power center has moved to Western Europe. At present, Brazil has near-zero chance of defeating teams such as France or England. Even against Spain and Italy, they are going to struggle. BTW, let's not forget how Brazil has performed so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers - they are at the 6th place with just 2 wins from 6 matches. Their next match is against Ecuador, and there is a good chance that they will lose that one as well.

The cycle of change in each country's squad has its own role, perhaps in the current era Argentina is in its peak era, however, Brazil still has names that are quite well known and are able to penetrate Real Madrid's main squad, it's just that Brazilian players are not able to compete in Europe. they are left behind by Argentinian players who are able to come out to compete in European clubs, even though there are so many Brazilian players who play in Europe but they still don't stand out or are unable to develop with the conditions of their game, that's why current Brazilian players look bad even though they have famous players in the squad.

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Quote from: snipie on July 03, 2024, 09:27:19 AM

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Indeed he was confused about this tournament that followed World Cup Qualifiers. For Brazil, it is very sick at this point. They were bad in the qualifiers game and they are showing bad results also in Copa America. Regardless of the actual competition result, do Brazilian people like seeing their team playing that way? Is it hard to find a suitable coach to improve the national team?

Yeah, but the thing is that Brazil still will qualify for the world cup.

They have qualified to every single world cup in their almost 100 year old existence.

That's the only team in the world that has managed to do that. They will qualify again.

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Quote from: nullama on July 03, 2024, 10:05:13 AM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on June 29, 2024, 03:21:48 PM

The brasiliam team is in second place in group D with four points.
Incredibly, Vini Jr scored two goals, one of which almost dribbled past the goalkeeper (I think that goal is fantastic). I expected a draw or defeat for Brazil, given their current performance, this might rekindle hopes.

Yeah, the thing is that Brazil is still one the strongest teams in the world.

Sure, they might lose from time to time, but at the end of the day they are really good.

Never underestimate your rival.

Of course, Brazil is still one of the strongest in the world because Brazil has always been able to produce new generation of players who really have very good playing skills, in fact many young Brazilian players have really started to have careers that are starting to look quite significant.
Rodrygo, Vinicius Jr, Raphael and also Bruno Guimaraes are the front pillars who are really very important for Brazil and they can always play very well in every match that they have to play.
Now Brazil is starting to build strength with all the players being of very productive age, they have many opportunities, one of which is the Copa America, which has now reached the quarter-finals.
But on the other hand, Brazil has to face Uruguay, which is one of the most successful in the Copa America, there is only a small chance that Brazil can beat Uruguay and enter the semifinals, but we see what will happen in this match.
After the completion of the Copa America, maybe Brazil can learn lot and start really preparing the team for World Cup qualification, if they can play and strengthen their performance as well as possible then there is big possibility of qualifying for the 2026 World Cup.

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Quote from: nullama on July 03, 2024, 10:05:13 AM

Yeah, the thing is that Brazil is still one the strongest teams in the world.

Sure, they might lose from time to time, but at the end of the day they are really good.

Never underestimate your rival.

Brazil "was" one of the strongest teams in the world. That is no longer the case. With the exception of Argentina, football power center has moved to Western Europe. At present, Brazil has near-zero chance of defeating teams such as France or England. Even against Spain and Italy, they are going to struggle. BTW, let's not forget how Brazil has performed so far in the CONMEBOL qualifiers - they are at the 6th place with just 2 wins from 6 matches. Their next match is against Ecuador, and there is a good chance that they will lose that one as well.

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Quote from: Hewlet on July 03, 2024, 02:10:38 AM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on June 30, 2024, 11:10:04 AM

This is exactly what I just stated few minutes ago about their convincing win. Brazil has being quite off with their performance and lots of their fans and spectators were actually having doubt about the way the whole performance is going to turn out especially with the on going Copa America but this win of their has actually brought some level of trust and certainty for the team.

from what's going on at both the Euros and Copa America, Brazil has really been a big flop in thier performance and hasn't been that consistent with thier play. From all indications, teams that will show full dormainnace in the world cup would most likely be teams from the euros and how competitive their tournament has been has already given an indication that they have most of her things all figured out in preparation for the coming world cup. Spain and Germany has been too incredible and from the Copa America perspective, Argentina stands out while it's most likely that any other team that will emerge as a top contender will most likely come in as an underdog. I'm anticipating teams that will do so well to be amongst these which are Argentina, France, Spain, Germany. So far in the continent, they are for me the most organized at the moment.

In last few years, we are having decline into quality of the USA soccer which is surely needed to be had some changes as their domestic league is doing good job but still they are having not quality players which can bring positive results in big events as now we have less than two years into World Cup which is going to play in the USA they need to be having some changes into their squad because if they are going to play like this most chances things can go terrible for them, and we can have decline into this game system as well which is doing good job for having some good popularity in this country.

Even we are having problematic time for the other co-host countries as well because recently they are having no improvement and their squad is lacking good players which can give them good breakthrough into this big event with we can hope we will have some good results in coming weeks from them.

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