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legendary
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Ruu \o/
The r9 earns approximately 10 cents in bitcoin mining for every $1000 in electricity it costs to run.
legendary
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also my calculations are different from yours because my cost for electricity is different, the r9 makes very good per day

Let's see your calculations.

You could work a minimum wage job for 1 hour a week in the USA and earn way, way, way more per month than your miner is pulling in.
legendary
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Well since ck so graciously split the thread for us. I will reply again, mobbil.

You can deny facts but you said it yourself, you get a total of 30gh, which is nearly nothing.

If you don't trust my calculations, use publics calculators;

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=30&p=0.00&pc=0.00&pf=0.00&d=116957648455.01000000&r=25.00000000&er=234.69500000&hc=0.00

If 11$ per year at no diff increase is "good money" then my bad, i was wrong.

Meanwhile you're throwing a r9 280x at BTC that generate nearly no hash, mine does less than 1GH, while it consume anywhere from 200 to 300watt. In return you get a few cents per year from it instead of earning 25-100cents per day mining alt coins.
newbie
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in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3

You think if you invest in mining power, you will find a block soon? Because you'd need 5PH~ to get close to one per day, to give you an idea. Since you're running completely obsolete miners, i'm not under the impression you're trying to set up an industrial mine, here.

what you mean about obsolete miners, i didn't understand, also i think i didn't give to you enough information about me to you get any impression? we are all here to learn and invest of course, i bought some avalon 3 nanos , in fact new version that get 3,6 ghs each one and some radeon 9 280x giga and i dont think is obsolete, please explain whats obsolete..

Those are exactly the definition of obsolete, it can't get more obsolete than that. I'm basing my impression in your thinking you have hardware able to mine BTC when in fact its a complete waste.

ob·so·lete
ˌäbsəˈlēt/Submit
adjective
1.
no longer produced or used; out of date.

Mining with your r9 280x is even worse than mining with your usb sticks. Its completely inappropriate to mine Bitcoin. Usb wise; I'm not sure why you bought those. Its just about the worse $/GH investment you can make, beside getting scammed out of your money and getting 0.

If a comparison can be of help to you. The current miners do 1 to 8 THs each. So you would need a thousand of your usb sticks to have the same hashrate of a current gen unit.

If you need even more information to understand, one of your usb stick, if difficulty doesn't go up, if price doesn't go down, will produce about one (1)$ single dollar in a whole year. So to be a good purchase, you must have paid no more than 25 cents for one stick.

your calculations should be revised .. i do not think is obsolete, also the usb is a little device that do not spend so big electricity, also my calculations are different from yours because my cost for electricity is different, the r9 makes very good per day.. thanks for your help

I'm calculating with free electricity. I'm giving you the factual return on the hardware you got.

And now i think you are having buyer's remorse and you are now throwing lies in. The best of GPU mine less than a cheap usb stick. You can make some money on GPU only coins, but Scrypt, no way, and SHA256d absolutely not. Saying you're making good money with mining BTC with a GPU is like saying you're able retain from breathing under water for a thousands years.

If you want to receive more help, make your own thread and send me the link. This has gotten very off topic.

Out of consideration for the people who watch this topic, please discuss further elsewhere, thx  Smiley

Yes. I put it in Bold just for you.

i do not understand why are you so worried about my way of invest, this is up to me, also i didn't ask you opinion about the way i do and i do not need to provide proofs if i lie or not .. and also i don't need lie this is for kids
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3

You think if you invest in mining power, you will find a block soon? Because you'd need 5PH~ to get close to one per day, to give you an idea. Since you're running completely obsolete miners, i'm not under the impression you're trying to set up an industrial mine, here.

what you mean about obsolete miners, i didn't understand, also i think i didn't give to you enough information about me to you get any impression? we are all here to learn and invest of course, i bought some avalon 3 nanos , in fact new version that get 3,6 ghs each one and some radeon 9 280x giga and i dont think is obsolete, please explain whats obsolete..

Those are exactly the definition of obsolete, it can't get more obsolete than that. I'm basing my impression in your thinking you have hardware able to mine BTC when in fact its a complete waste.

ob·so·lete
ˌäbsəˈlēt/Submit
adjective
1.
no longer produced or used; out of date.

Mining with your r9 280x is even worse than mining with your usb sticks. Its completely inappropriate to mine Bitcoin. Usb wise; I'm not sure why you bought those. Its just about the worse $/GH investment you can make, beside getting scammed out of your money and getting 0.

If a comparison can be of help to you. The current miners do 1 to 8 THs each. So you would need a thousand of your usb sticks to have the same hashrate of a current gen unit.

If you need even more information to understand, one of your usb stick, if difficulty doesn't go up, if price doesn't go down, will produce about one (1)$ single dollar in a whole year. So to be a good purchase, you must have paid no more than 25 cents for one stick.

your calculations should be revised .. i do not think is obsolete, also the usb is a little device that do not spend so big electricity, also my calculations are different from yours because my cost for electricity is different, the r9 makes very good per day.. thanks for your help

I'm calculating with free electricity. I'm giving you the factual return on the hardware you got.

And now i think you are having buyer's remorse and you are now throwing lies in. The best of GPU mine less than a cheap usb stick. You can make some money on GPU only coins, but Scrypt, no way, and SHA256d absolutely not. Saying you're making good money with mining BTC with a GPU is like saying you're able retain from breathing under water for a thousands years.

If you want to receive more help, make your own thread and send me the link. This has gotten very off topic.

Out of consideration for the people who watch this topic, please discuss further elsewhere, thx  Smiley

Yes. I put it in Bold just for you.
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
Out of consideration for the people who watch this topic, please discuss further elsewhere, thx  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3

You think if you invest in mining power, you will find a block soon? Because you'd need 5PH~ to get close to one per day, to give you an idea. Since you're running completely obsolete miners, i'm not under the impression you're trying to set up an industrial mine, here.

what you mean about obsolete miners, i didn't understand, also i think i didn't give to you enough information about me to you get any impression? we are all here to learn and invest of course, i bought some avalon 3 nanos , in fact new version that get 3,6 ghs each one and some radeon 9 280x giga and i dont think is obsolete, please explain whats obsolete..

Those are exactly the definition of obsolete, it can't get more obsolete than that. I'm basing my impression in your thinking you have hardware able to mine BTC when in fact its a complete waste.

ob·so·lete
ˌäbsəˈlēt/Submit
adjective
1.
no longer produced or used; out of date.

Mining with your r9 280x is even worse than mining with your usb sticks. Its completely inappropriate to mine Bitcoin. Usb wise; I'm not sure why you bought those. Its just about the worse $/GH investment you can make, beside getting scammed out of your money and getting 0.

If a comparison can be of help to you. The current miners do 1 to 8 THs each. So you would need a thousand of your usb sticks to have the same hashrate of a current gen unit.

If you need even more information to understand, one of your usb stick, if difficulty doesn't go up, if price doesn't go down, will produce about one (1)$ single dollar in a whole year. So to be a good purchase, you must have paid no more than 25 cents for one stick.

your calculations should be revised .. i do not think is obsolete, also the usb is a little device that do not spend so big electricity, also my calculations are different from yours because my cost for electricity is different, the r9 makes very good per day.. thanks for your help
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3

You think if you invest in mining power, you will find a block soon? Because you'd need 5PH~ to get close to one per day, to give you an idea. Since you're running completely obsolete miners, i'm not under the impression you're trying to set up an industrial mine, here.

what you mean about obsolete miners, i didn't understand, also i think i didn't give to you enough information about me to you get any impression? we are all here to learn and invest of course, i bought some avalon 3 nanos , in fact new version that get 3,6 ghs each one and some radeon 9 280x giga and i dont think is obsolete, please explain whats obsolete..

Those are exactly the definition of obsolete, it can't get more obsolete than that. I'm basing my impression in your thinking you have hardware able to mine BTC when in fact its a complete waste.

ob·so·lete
ˌäbsəˈlēt/Submit
adjective
1.
no longer produced or used; out of date.

Mining with your r9 280x is even worse than mining with your usb sticks. Its completely inappropriate to mine Bitcoin. Usb wise; I'm not sure why you bought those. Its just about the worse $/GH investment you can make, beside getting scammed out of your money and getting 0.

If a comparison can be of help to you. The current miners do 1 to 8 THs each. So you would need a thousand of your usb sticks to have the same hashrate of a current gen unit.

If you need even more information to understand, one of your usb stick, if difficulty doesn't go up, if price doesn't go down, will produce about one (1)$ single dollar in a whole year. So to be a good purchase, you must have paid no more than 25 cents for one stick.
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3

You think if you invest in mining power, you will find a block soon? Because you'd need 5PH~ to get close to one per day, to give you an idea. Since you're running completely obsolete miners, i'm not under the impression you're trying to set up an industrial mine, here.

what you mean about obsolete miners, i didn't understand, also i think i didn't give to you enough information about me to you get any impression? we are all here to learn and invest of course, i bought some avalon 3 nanos , in fact new version that get 3,6 ghs each one and some radeon 9 280x giga and i dont think is obsolete, please explain whats obsolete..
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
It's all about how the mining process works.  At the most basic level you're brute force attacking the problem, trying millions, billions, trillions of times a second to find a solution that works.  If you happen across one that does work, congratulations, you've solved the block.  The formulas for expected time are based on statistics and probabilities.  Given a hash rate and difficulty, you can calculate how long you would expect it to take for you to find a block.  Here's the formula:
Code:
(2^256 / (((2^224 - 2^208) / difficulty) * hashrate)) = time in seconds to solve a block

So, if we plug in the numbers for the upcoming S7 from Bitmain:
Code:
(2^256 / (((2^224 - 2^208) / 56957648455) * 4860000000000)) = 50336413.62236576130419
In other words, at the current network difficulty, you'd expect an S7 to take 1.6 years to find a block.
legendary
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Sorry, stupid question from a beginner.

How long does it take to resolve the 25btc with my antminer s3?
And how do i notice i found a block?

I used 455gh for the calculation, the result at current difficulty is 6222.81 Days. If in one year the difficulty is doubled from today at that point your odds to find a single block will be 12778.01 Days

I dont mean to find a block.
I can be lucky and find one in a few hrs, did i understand that right? But then i need to resolve the block. The 25btc. How long will that take?

Well do you mean to resolve a block or not? Finding a block, resolving a block, finding a solution for a block = Your odds of finding one is on average 6222.81 days at 455gh and current difficulty.

And if that happen you will know because you will have 25+BTC in your wallet. Finding one in a few hours is absolutely possible, its just much more likely for you to not find one in your lifetime.


Okay thanks, that was what i meant.
Can you explain or sent me a site, where i can read why there are lucky blocks? Why is it lucky that i find a block in a second or never one. How is it calculated?

No need for a link to explain this; Its purely random.

In a nutshell, your miner try random numbers to try to find a solution of a specific difficulty. The amount of number is the amount of Hash it tries per second.= Hash rate.
If your chance to win the lotto is one out of 100, there is no garantee you will win on the 100th, or 1000th or at any number in specific. This is why people pool their hashrate to average it faster

Extra info;

This way, finding a solution is purely random. You have one chance in current diff/total hash possible with 256bit hash = 56957648455/115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639935 for a single hash to solve the block.

So the only thing you can do is average how much time it would take, the same way on average, with a odd of 1/100 of winning the lottery you would win every 100 times, except here its a much bigger numbers.
full member
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Sorry, stupid question from a beginner.

How long does it take to resolve the 25btc with my antminer s3?
And how do i notice i found a block?

I used 455gh for the calculation, the result at current difficulty is 6222.81 Days. If in one year the difficulty is doubled from today at that point your odds to find a single block will be 12778.01 Days

I dont mean to find a block.
I can be lucky and find one in a few hrs, did i understand that right? But then i need to resolve the block. The 25btc. How long will that take?

Well do you mean to resolve a block or not? Finding a block, resolving a block, finding a solution for a block = Your odds of finding one is on average 6222.81 days at 455gh and current difficulty.

And if that happen you will know because you will have 25+BTC in your wallet. Finding one in a few hours is absolutely possible, its just much more likely for you to not find one in your lifetime.


Okay thanks, that was what i meant.
Can you explain or sent me a site, where i can read why there are lucky blocks? Why is it lucky that i find a block in a second or never one. How is it calculated?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068


Sorry, stupid question from a beginner.

How long does it take to resolve the 25btc with my antminer s3?
And how do i notice i found a block?

I used 455gh for the calculation, the result at current difficulty is 6222.81 Days. If in one year the difficulty is doubled from today at that point your odds to find a single block will be 12778.01 Days

I dont mean to find a block.
I can be lucky and find one in a few hrs, did i understand that right? But then i need to resolve the block. The 25btc. How long will that take?

Well do you mean to resolve a block or not? Finding a block, resolving a block, finding a solution for a block = Your odds of finding one is on average 6222.81 days at 455gh and current difficulty.

And if that happen you will know because you will have 25+BTC in your wallet. Finding one in a few hours is absolutely possible, its just much more likely for you to not find one in your lifetime.
full member
Activity: 243
Merit: 100


Sorry, stupid question from a beginner.

How long does it take to resolve the 25btc with my antminer s3?
And how do i notice i found a block?

I used 455gh for the calculation, the result at current difficulty is 6222.81 Days. If in one year the difficulty is doubled from today at that point your odds to find a single block will be 12778.01 Days
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I dont mean to find a block.
I can be lucky and find one in a few hrs, did i understand that right? But then i need to resolve the block. The 25btc. How long will that take?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3

You think if you invest in mining power, you will find a block soon? Because you'd need 5PH~ to get close to one per day, to give you an idea. Since you're running completely obsolete miners, i'm not under the impression you're trying to set up an industrial mine, here.

Sorry, stupid question from a beginner.

How long does it take to resolve the 25btc with my antminer s3?
And how do i notice i found a block?

I used 455gh for the calculation, the result at current difficulty is 6222.81 Days. If in one year the difficulty is doubled from today at that point your odds to find a single block will be 12778.01 Days
full member
Activity: 243
Merit: 100
Sorry, stupid question from a beginner.

How long does it take to resolve the 25btc with my antminer s3?
And how do i notice i found a block?
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.

lol.. im not worried to get a block this will come asap i invest in power, im worried to learn and make cgminer or bfgminer works perfectly using raspberry, right now its not working properly, when i use windows+bfgminer its makes 27-30ghs  when i use rasp it goes down to 4 maximum 6ghs using 6 avalons nano 3
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?

Whether its 4ghs or 30ghs, the odds of you finding a block in the next 100 years or so its very close to 0.

But millions of people get in the lottery weekly in the hope of getting rich. Your odds are comparable to a small lottery, with similar odds.
legendary
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Merit: 1094
Think for yourself
and what exactly will show when we find a block is that someone that can show to us one image? printscreen check mine bellow please
CGMiner displays "Best Share:" When that number is equal to or larger than the current difficulty, 56,957,648,455, then you will have found a block.

At 30 GHs it will most likely be years if not century's.  But hey you may get lucky.  I'm currently running 18 Block Erupters for a grand total of 5.9 Ghs in the off chance I may find a block.  But I'm not holding my breath either.  Smiley

Good Luck and have fun.
newbie
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Hi ck

im running cgminer 4.9.1 version in my raspberry and i just saw two accepted works /1000 connected to  solo.ckpool.org  , but i didn't receive anything in my btc account, can you check is that the same block or 2 differents ?

brgds



Two 1k shares accepted is not the same as finding a block, or two blocks.

but its suppose to share only if finds a block, no? specially if its a solo

Yes this is a solo pool.  But you submit shares similar to a standard pool.  This gives us miners feedback from the pool that we are indeed mining.  A 1k share means your share you submitted met or exceeded the 1k default difficulty set by the pool on startup of your mining.  As you submit more shares the pool will adjust this difficulty up or down according to your hash rate.  Then you can verify that hash rate with what the pool is reporting.

and what exactly will show when we find a block is that someone that can show to us one image? printscreen check mine bellow please

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxN5s78HQ8wVdk5OMEw2QmFyTXM/view

Block solution found for XYZ. Checking.
Block found!

On a Antminer you'll see block found: 1 up from 0 in the miner status or miner monitor software.

But with the hashrate you have, the chance you find a block in the next 100 years is very close to 0.

Your best share is 2.68k, you need 57 000 000k~ to solve a block.

in fact i have more hashrate 30ghs to be exactly but when i use cgminer +raspberrypi the hashrate is not full i still didn't see why, since when im using AvalonMiner +Bfgminer into windows its goes to the top and stay all time, but im testing first, so you are telling me if i generate 57g share i will be able to get blocks? or will be years to get one also?
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