Topic: First Asic for SIA - Obelisk SC1 - page 5. (Read 29238 times)

I'm seriously considering getting 5 PSU's from Bitmain (evil I know but the PSU's are good....even though, bitmain being evil they arrive 2 months after your miners..be aware!)

Anyway, I've yet to see an ASIC miner-manufacturer of any flavor coin, ship a decent PSU with their units (with the possible exception of spondoolies)

Thus, I think sometime before they ship (a month or two) I will get the above Bitmain Units as a 'hedge' and just sell the Obelisk PSU units on Ebay or use them on other stuff.

Just saying, (this of course IF by the time the obelisk's arrive they are not doorstops due to difficulty and price....if that is the case, its easy, just leave them in the box as

doorstops, cardboard slides around easier for such use anyway)

again, what I'm thinking as a KNOWN PSU ...get it ahead....as a hedge..... (my need for equipment deductions are getting extreme indeed!)

been caught with the crummy PSU hedge before....if I lose a bit selling the bitmain psu's on ebay and/or the obelisk units, so be it

they already told me the obelisk PSU's will be external (see email below)

quote:


Hello Brad,

Our PSU will be external to the Obelisk. We are guaranteeing it to be 500 watts or less, unfortunately, we do not have any efficiency information at this time, but it is our goal to deliver an efficient PSU.

You are more than welcome to use your PSU if it is compatible with the Obelisk, but all of our Obelisk ship with the PSU so we do not have a way to shipping you one without it.

We have not yet finalized our design so I cannot give any specific details on the specifications of the Obelisk or the PSU, this information will be available before our first batch ships.

I hope this helps, please let me know if you have any more questions.


Thanks,

Grant Crawford
Customer Specialist


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Note: If doorstop....I'm gonna get one of those 'sport t-shirt' large glass framed units...to hang the t-shirt on the wall (like if it was signed). Supposedly my Sia T-Shirt is in the mail

as I write this.

Then a small plaque underneath saying: "I Ordered FIVE Obelisk SC-1 SiaCoin (SC) Miners And All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt!

Something like this:




Tasteful, yet depressing.

Brad

that's really funny xD

my 2c on the subject of siacoin / soft fork / hard fork / bitmain antminer a3 / obelisk tech sc1 if anyone's interested

https://youtu.be/ADK6SUGfb6w

Need to change the thread title to Nebulous/Obelisk donations only and you get a doorstop in return. A t-shirt if you're lucky

Need to change this thread name to "Third Asic for SIA" 

There are conisdereable questions on if these guys are even legit....my view is it is unlikely

you can watch the battle on legit or not on this thread

myself..not touching any flavor asic from these guys...if for no other reason even IF legit ..they sure played it the wrong way

on promoting the product

now with the sudden announcement that they too have a blake2b miner...well.....I'm even more dubious

anyway, my take on this

link to the thread on this battle of legit or not

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2443327.1040;topicseen

Before you buy the A3, Halong Mining / DragonMint are now coming out with their own Blake(2b) ASIC.

No price nor date yet, BUT 3.5TH  THAT'S ~4.5X BITMAIN'S A3 and Obelisk's SC1 !!!!!!

https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b52-blake2b-miner

sia tech was NEVER about the coin...it was about making an anon decentralized.....no gov't can look at....cloud storage platform at $1 to the $10 equiv price now of amazon cloud.

the asic machines were to be used for security of the network

the sia-tech folk often said the price of sia coin was JUST speculation..in that it was to be used for their network

even with the obelisks...there was a 25% inflation of sia coins PER MONTH

thus.....I see no issue with Sia Tech changing the algo to do the above ..the money to be made was in the decentralized storage methods above

the coin itself was needed to run this massive decentralized beast

(or at least why I got 5 1st batch units)

anyway, how I see it...the devs with the 'tweak' announcement also see it the same

the also said something about using USAF to decide this ultimately ONLY if bitmain plays games with the protocol (like they tried to hijack seg witness for litecoin protocol

as an example)

anyway, we will be the first to know...chump or champ...I'm always either a chump or a champ ...no in-between on my guesses with crypto

It amazes me that so many people are ok with the Sia devs threatening to change the algo to prevent other companies from making an ASIC. This is much nastier market manipulation than people claim bitmain is trying to do. At least other altcoin devs that threaten to change their algo to keep it ASIC resistant arent at the same time trying to sell their own ASIC hardware.

When Sia rose to 700 sats against BTC that's when Bitmain decided to make the ASICs (well before the preorder). They've been working on this for some time kept the lid on tightly until now. Plus it's Bitmain - they could make a new algo today and they'de have the chip made before you finish typing a white paper. Nobody questions the companies success or efficiency - they are good at what they do. Their business practices on the other hand....

bitmain ripes obelisks miner with 1 announce. i dont know how they are making this asics within few months. obelisk announced and start pre-ordering asics (est. delivery date after 3month for each batch). but bitmain announced and start ordering which devices almost ready (est. delivery date 10day)

Ha, leaving some meat on the bone?  In their first batch they were trying to sell 10,000 of them, with no limit on the number you can buy.  2nd batch, another 10,000, still no limit.  If you think for a minute the Sia devs were thinking about the little guy you are sadly mistaken.    It was their stance that the more mining power out there, the better.  Of course they were saying this when they were the only ones selling a Sia ASIC.  Now their tune was changed.

Doesnt mean it will be usless. Bitmain is shpping A3 in small batches. And probably wont do bit batch for one coin. Obelix just wont make $400 a day.

Is that mean obelisk will be a total useless even before they start shipping? Or there will be some times for obelisk to modify in order to mine the new POW algorithm?

Pretty sure there will be one.

so what would be your speculation on the profitability of the SC1 and the DCR1 once they come out? Let's assume it's in June. The Bitmain ASICs have been mining for about 5 months or so. Then the Obelisks enter the stage... what happens?
Also, I know the decred asic hasn't come out from bitmain yet, but one can assume they'll be coming, right?

Yes, I'm agree with you but Taek42 said in a thread about the DragonMint B52:


And another


Wait & see again 

Expect also Decred miner from Bitmain soon.

From my reading of Taek42's posts (sia dev)

Obelisk is unstable at 0.5V and stability is found at 0.6V delivering a 2.25 GH/w (833 GH total +/- 5%)

New Siacoin ASIC again

https://www.reddit.com/r/siacoin/comments/7r6qlr/dragonmint_b52_blake2b_miner/

But an interesting information coming from SiaTeam in response of this announcement

"The specs are in line with our most optimistic simulations for the SC1. If we can get the chips to run at 0.5V, we'd be seeing around 3.3 TH/s per 1000w" from Taek42 Developer

The fight begins

   

Surprise me, this means that there will be an ASIC friendly algorithm soon. What are the popular coins that use blake2b?

EDIT: just noticed SIA is blake2b  I thought SIA with it's own new algo...