Topic: First Asic for SIA - Obelisk SC1 - page 9. (Read 29238 times)

so I just started mining this coin, are you saying that its not worth mining this coin with my 1 1070 because there are savages with those big loud hot bitcoin machines that its to hard and I only get like 1 a day or something?

And quit scaring self and potentially others and focus on the underlying SIA tech.....

How many coins out there have some perceived value and yet no tech backing it?

Coins with out any underlying tech reminds me of the DOTCOM bubble .... and we know how that went over (Wikipedia it if any one doesn't know)

Have a website? Own a DOTCOM.... No business plan? No worries! Here is $10MM in VC/sheep monies !

 

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@Searing

Good call but Bitmain appear sold out .... for now.

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020170627175024105t4k8SjM5067C

This would tie in nicely to my 240v PDU's.

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so when I got my original 1st batch of sc-1's the hash rate was 100mh now it is 800mh...so all that batch and new stuff

can you blow a coin up...to being worthless...simply because everyone turns their machines on at the same time?

The sia folk told me my orders did NOT matter in dates/time per batch..they will ship all the stuff at once

interesting situation..I saw a patch for KNC scrypt miners to scrypt-n protocol ...in 2015....and blew up and destroyed all worth of scrypt n coins in a week!

but, my bet is not on the coin price, but the protocol for storage...so we should be all right..correct....(scared self with above)

I also got Obelisk to up date their sales counters on their website.

If you are going to show numbers.... make them real and up-to-date.

New numbers as of Jan 15 2018:

DCR1:     1,095 sold

SCI:        1,585 sold

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well my reply to fishing for info on PSU's internal or external or whatever

they NOW say they will be EXTERNAL (see below)

this is the reply

Hello Brad,

Our PSU will be external to the Obelisk. We are guaranteeing it to be 500 watts or less, unfortunately we do not have any efficiency information at this time, but it is our goal to deliver an efficient PSU.

You are more than welcome to use your PSU if it is compatible with the Obelisk, but all of our Obelisk ship with the PSU so we do not have a way to shipping you one without it.

We have not yet finalized our design so I cannot give any specific details on the specifications of the Obelisk or the PSU, this information will be available before our first batch ships.

I hope this helps, please let me know if you have any more questions.


Thanks,

Grant Crawford
Customer Specialist


I am NOT happy that they have not gotten the case and psu design set etc...USUALLY an ASIC maker (while waiting the 3 or 4 months to see if the chip MASK has set and the chips

are good) takes that time to design the case/ psu or whatever THUS the only thing the mnfg has to do when the chips are legit is wait to get them...then slap the units togther

and out the door

the HOPE that obelisk folk were saying they could get something out in March/April, now IMHO is now shot....they MAY get it out by their orignal July 2018 deadline

but I know of at least 2-3 ASIC miners, that had the problem where they DID get the chips and DID get the boards...but the cases or the psu's sub contractors screwed them

over and they lost 3 months shipping...they were then hostage to the subcontractors of this ...

so....anyway, if their supply line on case and psu works out they are probably golden...if for some reason they get caught by subcontractors i'll be more than annoyed

this is 'build a rig' 101 for crying out loud....

Also, I am PROBABLY going to get Bitmain PSU units for my obelisk units.....simply because they are probably overkill for PSU's needed (now that they are going to be external) and
they have a 1-year warranty

just to be safe...if/when the obelisk PSU"s arrive I can flip them on eBay and be more or less even on such

Pandaminer from friends got screwed on cheap psu's when included with their units and I've heard of other stuff

so if you have the cash there is little risk you can always flip the bitmain units if you like the obelisk PSU's but you know how it is.....everything is covered and then

you suddenly can't get a PSU anyplace! (been there, done that)

anyway, my hedge on these being confirmed as external PSU's

brad

to answer my own question:

"The Obelisk software will likely use a Stratum server, and so should be compatible with another coin using Blake2b pool that uses Stratum."

Just a heads up:

In the spirit of sharing information to those interested I just got an email from Obelisk Customer support today (JAN 13 2018) in regards to a hardware specific question in relation to PSU specs etc...  and was told:

"Unfortunately we have not finalized all the design aspects of our units..."

My translation:

We haven't finished even designing our units yet so production is many months away. My next question would be in relation to ordering parts for production etc.... and if they are even available in a timely fashion.

Been in the hardware vertical before and I know there are many challenges in this space around parts availability and delivery.

Thus, at the moment, we are promised 150,000 Sia per month, and at the current Sia price it is $10K per month. And this at the price of an asik is only 1599 dollars. Is not it too good?

They did not know exact hashrate before they really started to produce chips and test them, and put as little as possible, to be not overestimated.  They wrote previously, if i remember correctly, that hashrate would be increased after they saw real numbers.

Guys, can someone explain me one thing? In 9 Aug. 2017 this miner cost $2499 and have hashrate 100 GH/s (url №1), but now it cost $1599 and have hashrate 800 GH/s url №2). So what's the catch?
http://skrinshoter.ru/i/130118/UZaFfwIc.png

http://skrinshoter.ru/i/130118/xOfAsrYQ.png

They mine each only 1 algo  as they are ASIC''s

Baikal miners are FGPA. So they usually mine several different algos, at lower efficiency.

do you mean that obelisks from batch 1 were selling in July 2017 ?

The wait time is so freaking long so it makes it pretty sick gamble. I do not envy those who bought bunch of obelisks in July 2017 and paid 1 BTC each lol.

Very nice link, thanks!   Though I did not find information there how do they calculate future difficulty.  Any idea?

You can use this site to calculate that: http://www.sialytics.com Make sure you add the batches you estimate will be sold.

Yeap that what i have done.

One of each, so far we can say this.

Obelisk give projection about income in coin for SC1 & DCR1 with 4k miner sell of each.

150k sia per month / 27 DCR per month.

Actually Obelisk dont sell all miner on first batch.

3600 for SC1 / 3000 for DCR

Was other miner on market ( baikal only for moment but is not released yet )

Safe projection we can say at least 110k-120k SIA per month and i bet 27 DCR per month to. ( cause we have to add concurrence )

When batch 2 will inc on market everything will be halved i presume.

On my personal position i prefer to wait new gen and enjoy this one with my coupon

Yes, thay clearly state this on the site. Miners can mine only one algo.   Baikal, as it turns out, is able to mine both coins ?  

Yep...1 trick ponies....from what I heard that is the way they are doing such..each one only mines decred or siacoin specifically...

1 unit does only decred....the other unit only does siacoin....to mine both decred and siacoin you have to get 1 unit of each

On the Obelisk site, they mention that the OSC1 can only mine SC and DCR1 can only mine Decred.

I was wondering if they can each mine any other coin that share the same algo (Blake2B and Blake256R14, respectively), assuming that any other coin with same algo would come to exist (none yet that I know)?

If yes, anyone have insight into new altcoins coming out with these same algos?

Otherwise, the Obelisks seem pretty one-trick pony types.