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legendary
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October 20, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
#90
No way!!  A conversation about Religion on the internet turned into insulting religion.   I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS!

It wasn't even about religion, just short and sweet info about church accepting bitcoins.

I thinks it's best for everyone if I lock this thread. You can always throw shit at each other in Off topic.


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October 20, 2014, 11:12:38 AM
#89
No way!!  A conversation about Religion on the internet turned into insulting religion.   I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS!
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October 20, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
#88
Why would a church need to accept BitCoin?  They're already tax exempt... must be easier for them to pay for child prostitutes that way.
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October 20, 2014, 10:23:58 AM
#87
Just because something is widely accepted does not make it a fact.  Just because society says something is good and OK does not make it moral.
I couldn't agree more. Also this has absolutely zero to do with what we have been discussing, which is head-in-the-sound superstitious ignorance.  

The huge problem is that most of the world just blindly trusts what is told to them or even taught to them in textbooks or go along with the popular beliefs.  
Holy shit, did you really miss the irony of that statement?

Replace "most of the world just blindly trusts what is told to them or even taught to them in text books"
with      "most of the world just blindly trusts what is told to them or even taught to them in holy books"


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October 20, 2014, 03:07:07 AM
#86
Unfortunately I have trouble trusting scientists that portray theories as fact.  That is a huge problem.
Fixed that for you. You are beyond my help or anyone else's until you stop distrusting widely accepted scientific fact.


Just because something is widely accepted does not make it a fact.  Just because society says something is good and OK does not make it moral.  The huge problem is that most of the world just blindly trusts what is told to them or even taught to them in textbooks or go along with the popular beliefs.  We need to think for ourselves.  Why are you so frustrated about what I believe anyways?  I would think you should rejoice in freedom of choice?  If I agreed with you wouldn't you be stifling my freedom?  You obviously cherish choices in lifestyle don't you?  

Edit:  And as for your signature (Voltaire's quote)  "It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong" I could not agree more wholeheartedly!  There will come a day when I will be persecuted and maybe even killed for just saying that I believe in Jesus.  That is all it will take.  Just believing in Jesus will be a very dangerous thing because "established men" will disagree and say that I am wrong and say that my belief is a danger to society (even though as a Christian my hearts desire is to have a world filled with God's Spirit which is evident by the fruit of His Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness and self-control. So I am not sure what the danger is besides the common belief that Christians are keeping the world from their "freedoms" which consists of sexual immorality, lusts, other sins and hate of God's word.)  If it gets to the point where Christians are persecuted (more than we already are) who will be right and who will be wrong?

Edit 2:  If this comes across as judgmental, I am sorry.  I just want people to seek more than what they have been told.  My heart is for people to see that they are so much more valuable than something that "evolved" from nothing.  They are created in God's image.  He loves us intensely and so deeply and the thought that we are not special and created by God is a lie that is being taught as "fact" today.  This is a truth that has to be revealed by God's Spirit though, so I will pray that anyone reading this will feel God's Spirit and see the truth for what it is.

How many times i have to tell you? GO BACK TO THE FCKING KITCHEN!

Where is your hubby? did someone chop his balls off? The fcker now only use alt account on here huh?
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October 20, 2014, 02:54:43 AM
#85
Superstition is the end of reason.

No gods, no masters.

yeah, everyone is equal ... idiot!

Try this experiment take flour, eggs, sugar, baking soda, butter, milk, and a oven and just leave them in the kitchen, how long do you thing it would take to evolve into a cake?
 a million years, a billion years, a trillion years?  It won't happen because there's no action behind it, and there no plan behind that.

Before you have an earth, solar system, or galaxies you must have a plan, as well as the ingredients and action to carryout that plan.   Who created the ingredients, and who designed the plan?  You can't get a "bang" without bang ingredients and a plan to make a bang.

...  who created thought, who created a system where by the invisible mind controls the physical body  ...  

You live in a world where 90+% of the world population are theist.   Be glad they don't treat you as you treat them.




There are so many christians around me who hold big amount of Bitcoins, if the church begins to accept bitcoins, they will definitely donate some beyond question. I think it is a good thing and I know nothing before I am a christian.
legendary
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October 20, 2014, 01:46:12 AM
#84
My husband and I asked our church if they would take Bitcoin.  They said they would look into it.  

We have been holding our coins for the past year though so haven't sold them yet.  If and when we have another bubble, we will sell a few though and we will want to give a portion to our church.  At this point the conversation will hopefully go like this. "We would love to donate a few thousand to the church but we want to do it in Bitcoin.  Can you set up an account at Coinbase or Circle and we will send those funds immediately?"  

I think they will decide to take Bitcoin. Wink  We will see though.  

Also, while I am in India in a few weeks I am going to see if the organization I am working with will set up a Unocoin account so I can send them some too.  It is such a great way to donate internationally because it can save so much on fees. 

Just convert to fiat, when the price is better and donate it to them, no need for them to adopt BTC, it will take forever.

I am all for whatever good can be done in this world. {Feed the poor or be kind to someone}
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October 19, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
#83
Unfortunately I have trouble trusting scientists that portray theories as fact.  That is a huge problem.
Fixed that for you. You are beyond my help or anyone else's until you stop distrusting widely accepted scientific fact.


Just because something is widely accepted does not make it a fact.  Just because society says something is good and OK does not make it moral.  The huge problem is that most of the world just blindly trusts what is told to them or even taught to them in textbooks or go along with the popular beliefs.  We need to think for ourselves.  Why are you so frustrated about what I believe anyways?  I would think you should rejoice in freedom of choice?  If I agreed with you wouldn't you be stifling my freedom?  You obviously cherish choices in lifestyle don't you?  

Edit:  And as for your signature (Voltaire's quote)  "It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong" I could not agree more wholeheartedly!  There will come a day when I will be persecuted and maybe even killed for just saying that I believe in Jesus.  That is all it will take.  Just believing in Jesus will be a very dangerous thing because "established men" will disagree and say that I am wrong and say that my belief is a danger to society (even though as a Christian my hearts desire is to have a world filled with God's Spirit which is evident by the fruit of His Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness and self-control. So I am not sure what the danger is besides the common belief that Christians are keeping the world from their "freedoms" which consists of sexual immorality, lusts, other sins and hate of God's word.)  If it gets to the point where Christians are persecuted (more than we already are) who will be right and who will be wrong?

Edit 2:  If this comes across as judgmental, I am sorry.  I just want people to seek more than what they have been told.  My heart is for people to see that they are so much more valuable than something that "evolved" from nothing.  They are created in God's image.  He loves us intensely and so deeply and the thought that we are not special and created by God is a lie that is being taught as "fact" today.  This is a truth that has to be revealed by God's Spirit though, so I will pray that anyone reading this will feel God's Spirit and see the truth for what it is.
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October 19, 2014, 08:21:34 PM
#82
Unfortunately I have trouble trusting scientists that portray theories as fact.  That is a huge problem.
Fixed that for you. You are beyond my help or anyone else's until you stop distrusting widely accepted scientific fact.

Pay attention now, because I'm only going to link this once, and it is truly poignant, truly beautiful, truly moving.
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 08:15:20 PM
#81
Some of the radiometric information I used is found here: https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/radiometric-dating-and-proof/



If you want to learn about Christianity, go ask a priest.

If you want to learn about demons, go watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

If you want to learn about Earth, you ask a fucking geologist for fuck's sake.

They hire scientists and geologists and I wanted to make sure to list where I found some of the information (give credit where it is due).  But you have no rebuttal for the information I listed other than this?  I am just looking for the truth.  Unfortunately I have trouble trusting scientists that portray theories as fact.  That is a huge problem.
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 08:11:14 PM
#80
Please stop!
We all know this is true!

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October 19, 2014, 08:08:53 PM
#79
Some of the radiometric information I used is found here: https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/radiometric-dating-and-proof/



If you want to learn about Christianity, go ask a priest.

If you want to learn about Demons, go watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

If you want to learn about Earth, you ask a fucking geologist for fuck's sake.

This is not demon-surgery, goddammit. Stop wasting my time with this absurd creationist horseshit.

THIS IS YOU!
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 07:28:47 PM
#78
... evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" hard science that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact?
Fixed that for you. Earth is 4.54 +/- 1% billion years old. This is a proven fact by radiometric dating. It's also common knowledge for any sane person, including every respectable scientist. Sorry, you don't get to discount hard science because it offends your religious view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

Claiming, in 2014, that the Earth is younger than 4.5 billion years old, is just as ridiculous as claiming the Earth is flat or claiming Sol revolves around Earth. It's flatly moronic, and you should stop doing it immediately.

Are there any other great mysteries you'd like me to google for you? Spoiler:  You will (and deserve to be) mocked and derided until you stop disrespecting hard science.

I am by no means an expert in geology but there are reasons why I have come to question the dates that have been reported as "fact."  Isn't good science at least questioning these things?

The latest estimates suggest a date of 4.57 billion years. But this figure wasn’t established by radiometric dating of the earth itself. Most people are not aware of this. The truth is that the age of the earth has been established by dating meteorites, which are not earth rocks. They have come from somewhere else in the solar system, and their source is assumed to have formed at the same time as the earth. Therefore, the age they supply is an interpretation based on that assumption and is emphatically not “hard science.” How do we know for sure that the meteorites came from another body in the solar system that was formed at the same time as the earth? That’s an assumption, not “hard science.”

Scientists use radiometric dating but radiocarbon dating is more accurate. However, they do not want to use radiocarbon dating, why?  The best laboratories in the world, using the best equipment under the cleanest conditions over the last three decades, have been routinely finding measurable radiocarbon in coal, oil, natural gas, limestone, fossil bones, fossil shells, and even diamonds! If these were all millions of years old, then there should be no radiocarbon left in them. The fact is that all these materials yield radiocarbon dates of only thousands of years. And all of this is documented in scientific literature, such as in the journal Radiocarbon

Also, the amount of helium on the earth shows that the earth cannot be millions of years old.  There would be no helium left on earth.

These are just a few things that make me question the millions of years assumptions.

Some of the radiometric information I used is found here: https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating/radiometric-dating-and-proof/
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October 19, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
#77
... evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" hard science that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact?
Fixed that for you. Earth is 4.54 +/- 1% billion years old. This is a proven fact by radiometric dating. It's also common knowledge for any sane person, including every respectable scientist. Sorry, you don't get to discount hard science because it offends your religious view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

Claiming, in 2014, that the Earth is younger than 4.5 billion years old, is just as ridiculous as claiming the Earth is flat or claiming Sol revolves around Earth. It's flatly moronic, and you should stop doing it immediately.

Are there any other great mysteries you'd like me to google for you? Spoiler:  You will (and deserve to be) mocked and derided until you stop disrespecting hard science.
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October 19, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
#76
Wow Beliathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if you do not agree with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.   Embarrassed  Truth is truth, regardless of if I believe it, or anyone believes it.  But we live in a world that does not even believe in absolute truth anymore.  Everything is relative and based on what feels good to us. It is now commonly accepted to determine what is right and wrong based solely on feelings and our cultural norms.  This is rooted in evolutionary theory as well as atheism with no God or higher authority to be accountable to.  But that is all part of the brainwashing too.




Don't mind him, only a juvenile would go overboard posting pics in such a fashion.  Apparently he has failed to take his ADHD meds again.

The proper definition of homophobia linguistically is 'the fear of man'.  Most animals are homophobic, in that they are afraid of humans; notice most animals will run from man when they see us -- that is homophobia.    

I was at a grocery store one day, the cashier had a huge fat lip that obviously receive multiple stitches, clearly he should not have gone into work but he did.  I asked him how it  happened he told me that his boyfriend did it.  The highest incidence of abuse on homos are what they do to one another, followed by what they do to themselves.   What others do to them is a long distance third.

Ask any emergency room doctor to tell you stories of how many of them grossly injury themselves in an attempt to have "pleasure".  
Ask the police officers and social workers about the number of times they have encountered activities that minimally could be defined as
self-mutilation but could easily go as high as self-torture. Beliathon would have us believe that that is normal simply because it isn't illegal.

Without a moral compass you will get lost.   Notice how Beliathon will switch to any other topic he could in an effort to remove himself from
addressing the root issues at hand -- the existence of God.

You've been wrong on every single point you've made.

Homophobic means - irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. Also some(there are many species of animals that do not, especially when they haven't encountered humans often i.e animals in exclusive parts of the world) animals fearing man is a learnt behavior, animals do not automatically fear humans, Discovery Channel and studies done on animals(Bears for ex.) should clarify this for you.

You meeting one homosexual or bisexual person who's been involved with abuse by their partner doesn't justify you claiming that all of them are violent. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Around 1 in 5 women in the Unites States report that they have been sexually assaulted. 1 in 5. So based upon that evidence, does that give me the right to say that all men are violent ? No, so then you definitely cannot claim that all homosexual men are violent given your 1 encounter.

Morality is innate. Meaning it's not learnt usually, it's basically an aversion to causing pain, physical or mental to another being. Of course this is just a general view, many different cultures have their own view on what's right and wrong, etc.
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October 19, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
#75
Wow Beliathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if you do not agree with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.   Embarrassed  Truth is truth, regardless of if I believe it, or anyone believes it.  But we live in a world that does not even believe in absolute truth anymore.  Everything is relative and based on what feels good to us. It is now commonly accepted to determine what is right and wrong based solely on feelings and our cultural norms.  This is rooted in evolutionary theory as well as atheism with no God or higher authority to be accountable to.  But that is all part of the brainwashing too.




Don't mind him, only a juvenile would go overboard posting pics in such a fashion.  Apparently he has failed to take his ADHD meds again.

The proper definition of homophobia linguistically is 'the fear of man'.  Most animals are homophobic, in that they are afraid of humans; notice most animals will run from man when they see us -- that is homophobia.   

I was at a grocery store one day, the cashier had a huge fat lip that obviously receive multiple stitches, clearly he should not have gone into work but he did.  I asked him how it  happened he told me that his boyfriend did it.  The highest incidence of abuse on homos are what they do to one another, followed by what they do to themselves.   What others do to them is a long distance third.

Ask any emergency room doctor to tell you stories of how many of them grossly injury themselves in an attempt to have "pleasure".   
Ask the police officers and social workers about the number of times they have encountered activities that minimally could be defined as
self-mutilation but could easily go as high as self-torture. Beliathon would have us believe that that is normal simply because it isn't illegal.

Without a moral compass you will get lost.   Notice how Beliathon will switch to any other topic he could in an effort to remove himself from
addressing the root issues at hand -- the existence of God.
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October 19, 2014, 05:40:03 PM
#74
Wow Belathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if no one agrees with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.  Hopefully it isn't too late for them though.  Embarrassed



 "If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant."

What's been shown, especially in the case of epi-marks, is that the chance of a male becoming homosexual increases as the mother has more kids. So if a mother has had 8 male children, the chance of the 9th one being gay is far higher than of the 1st one being gay. This could be a way to slow down/control population growth. It technically is a deviant from the norm, but it is still natural, kind of like if most people in one town had brown hair, and someone was born with yellow hair, that doesn't make them crazy, they just have a different hair color than most people in the town. Female sexuality however, is much more complicated presumably according to Dr Meredith Chivers work. Women have the capacity to be attracted to things that are sensual. So unlike males, who tend to be a bit rigid in their arousal patterns(could be due to cultural influences), women can be aroused by things that are overall "appealing" such as sexual intercourse if even between animals. They were even aroused by bonobo apes mating: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&sq=bonobos%20sex%20study%20blood%20flow&st=cse&scp=1. I know some people reading this will think, "Well if they're attracted to sensual things, then why are most of them hetero-romantic/heterosexual?(predominantly attracted to males sexually and romantically)". Well, evolution gave males features that would tip the scale in favor of them as being the foremost sexual/romantic partners of women, such as women being aroused by the mere pheromones a male produces, along with the overall structure of the male body, such as strong broad shoulders, tall, etc(especially during menstruation), and many more.

So in actuality, homosexuality is not something unnatural, and not something to be scared of if you're heterosexual and think," Oh the world is going to end because everyone will "turn" gay". That's not the case, as the majority of women and men are predominantly heterosexual with both sexes having specific attributes that appeal to the other, like two pieces to the puzzle. I go by the quote that, " Men drive the world, Women direct it", in the sense that men are usually more headstrong, while women are usually more "careful" so to speak(search up brain imaging of men vs women). Without men, the world will become stagnant and there would be no progression, without women the world will be less peaceful overall.

If you're talking about timeframes, 1billion years>1million years>100,000years>present day, etc. Yes, I can safely say that it's proven that the earth is a lot older than the 6,000 or so years as originally thought according to the Genesis chapter of the Old Testament(Which is also regarded by some scholars are symbolic and not to be taken literally).

You seem to take every portion of your religious text(Quran, Torah, Bible), literally. Try thinking that some passages in those holy books are not to be taken literally. I must say, that I wholeheartedly agree with only 1 section of the bible, which is the New Testament. While I don't really believe in the religious part, I believe in Christ's teachings, they are things that can apply to any religions and all peoples; an overall message of love.

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October 19, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
#73
Wow Beliathon.  That is quite a response.  

My point in the "brainwashing" was more along the lines of almost all children's books today in regards to the earth, dinosaurs, evolution begin with "Millions of years ago" or "Billions of years ago."  This is taught as a fact and now everyone just blindly believes it to be a fact.  I am the one that is seen as crazy because I just don't go along with the "brainwashing" that is taking place.  Is the "millions of years" time frame a proven fact or has everyone just been brainwashed to believe it is a fact? Scientists keep changing the timeline all of the time anyways so it is a huge problem.

As for homosexuality(since that is obviously a hot button for you) our bodies were designed sexually to be male and female (with the rare exception of a mutation in which someone is born with both parts of course)  If males could reproduce having sex with other males, or females with females, I would have to agree that scientifically homosexuality is normal and that anyone that disagrees with this is being brainwashed to believe that it is wrong, but that isn't the case.  Sure, there is deviance from the norm, but it is deviant.  It is not how we were designed sexually, and we were designed.  The reproductive system in the human body is an amazing and highly designed system that just could not have evolved by chance.  The fact that we are being brainwashed into believing everything happened by random chance is the craziest thing of all and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

All this said, I am not really worried if you do not agree with me on this.  Saddened of course because I know without a doubt what the truth is.  The ones that are really brainwashed will someday have their eyes opened when the judgement day comes.   Embarrassed  Truth is truth, regardless of if I believe it, or anyone believes it.  But we live in a world that does not even believe in absolute truth anymore.  Everything is relative and based on what feels good to us. It is now commonly accepted to determine what is right and wrong based solely on feelings and our cultural norms.  This is rooted in evolutionary theory as well as atheism with no God or higher authority to be accountable to.  But that is all part of the brainwashing too.

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October 19, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
#72
hahahahaahahahaaaa, you're worse than the other guy, are you his dad?   Your username explains your sexuality 'position'.

Got to put you on ignore

Ah, some people(Armis) will forever dwell in their ignorance. Stupidity surely is a hard thing to change.
It's not his fault and it's not stupidity. This person - like most religious adults - was indoctrinated during their formative years, long before they had developed the critical thinking skills necessary to discern truth from falsehood,  long before they would ever hear the phrase scientific method".

There's a reason every religious group forces their bullshit down the throats of young children. It's the only time they can. By the time any modern teen has been educated about science, getting them to believe in a god would be as difficult as getting them to believe in santa claus.

IMHO indoctrinating children into anything is a form of child abuse, and should be treated as such by the law.


What's funny is that with him and a lot of other people with his beliefs that in most other situations of their lives they apply the critical reasoning necessary to dismiss claims that are unfounded and yet fail to apply it to their religious beliefs.

I think the biggest difference between him and I will be that I will never claim an absolute and I'm happy to say that I'm wrong
Some people just don't want to give up their favourite play toys.. It's useless to argue with someone not willing to admit they are wrong

Best to just sit back and have a chuckle.. a lot of the rhetoric is just recycled over and over anyway
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October 19, 2014, 04:06:07 PM
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The indoctrination by the "scientific community".


Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology.

It is distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned.

Science can only educate, never indoctrinate. Unlike religion, critical examination, observation, deduction, peer review, and doubt are the foundations of the scientific method:



Witness, ye internet friends, the hatred and ignorance that grows from superstition:

Homosexuality has no good natural purpose.  Heterosexuality has an inherently good natural purpose -- to perpetuate the species.
You disgust me. It's one thing to have imaginary friends as an adult. Hell, you can even go telling other adults this embarrassing, cringe-worthy thing about yourself. I don't care! But when you start spreading blind hatred, you're fucking repugnant. To do it from behind a computer makes you a repugnant, hateful coward.

I dare you to bring your ignorant, backwater, hateful ass to New York City and say this shit outloud. See what happens. Spoiler: You'll get your ass kicked, and you'll deserve it. If there is a creator, you are a disgrace to all creation.










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