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newbie
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May 06, 2013, 03:31:20 AM
#26
wow!
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
May 06, 2013, 03:28:25 AM
#25
I see it as a intro to Bitcoin. Getting people to test the waters. Is it spam when emailing a friend asking them, did you get this? To test your new email account.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2013, 02:30:10 PM
#24
Spam is the wrong word, it made people make transactions. And it took only one.

It is an unnecessary transaction thou? so I would classified that as spam.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
May 05, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
#23
Spam is the wrong word, it made people make transactions. And it took only one.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2013, 12:10:12 PM
#22
How would an alt coin just for shortening addresses be a good thing?  Sounds like something no one would ever use, considering firstbits is built right in to Bitcoin - no need to have yet another blockchain taking up space and CPU cycles on your computer.  I'll agree with you that it is sad that a shortener like payb.tc is popular though!

Cause just like first bits you would have multiple sites with the blockchain and for the paranoid they would have the blockchain. Not everyone would have the blockchain for this.

Man there's no spamming. But trust is gone and no one will use this again.

It does encourages spamming, read on firstbits works and you will see why. There was no trust in the beginning cause it is based off a decentralized database, we don't need to trust it.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1060
May 05, 2013, 02:11:20 AM
#21
Man there's no spamming. But trust is gone and no one will use this again.

 On another note, does anyone know how to label addresses publicly at blockchain?
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 05, 2013, 02:06:47 AM
#20
●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.

I could go thru many of these points and argue, saying there are other ways to solve these issues. But if you want to really kill off first bits, create an alt coin like namecoin that all they do is store shortener ID and the bitcoin address it points to. First bits is at the basic an encourage of spam and we can't have that right now.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.  Firstbits do not create spam any more than any other transaction creates spam.  They solve real problems in a simple and better way than any other address shortener ever has.

Well all it solves is a easily verifiable database, that makes other people to verify it for you technically. I mean there are other ways to solve it, that don't spam the blockchain.
Like centralized, unverifiable databases?

You could make an alt coin, you could do crypto-functions and use data, to store the data in a centralized location and still make it verifiable without the database being released. I mean there are other ways. Sadly popular shorteners like payb.tc aren't any of those and it is popular so yeah.
How would an alt coin just for shortening addresses be a good thing?  Sounds like something no one would ever use, considering firstbits is built right in to Bitcoin - no need to have yet another blockchain taking up space and CPU cycles on your computer.  I'll agree with you that it is sad that a shortener like payb.tc is popular though!
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2013, 01:24:33 AM
#19
●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.

I could go thru many of these points and argue, saying there are other ways to solve these issues. But if you want to really kill off first bits, create an alt coin like namecoin that all they do is store shortener ID and the bitcoin address it points to. First bits is at the basic an encourage of spam and we can't have that right now.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.  Firstbits do not create spam any more than any other transaction creates spam.  They solve real problems in a simple and better way than any other address shortener ever has.

Well all it solves is a easily verifiable database, that makes other people to verify it for you technically. I mean there are other ways to solve it, that don't spam the blockchain.
Like centralized, unverifiable databases?

You could make an alt coin, you could do crypto-functions and use data, to store the data in a centralized location and still make it verifiable without the database being released. I mean there are other ways. Sadly popular shorteners like payb.tc aren't any of those and it is popular so yeah.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 05, 2013, 01:17:18 AM
#18
●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.

I could go thru many of these points and argue, saying there are other ways to solve these issues. But if you want to really kill off first bits, create an alt coin like namecoin that all they do is store shortener ID and the bitcoin address it points to. First bits is at the basic an encourage of spam and we can't have that right now.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.  Firstbits do not create spam any more than any other transaction creates spam.  They solve real problems in a simple and better way than any other address shortener ever has.

Well all it solves is a easily verifiable database, that makes other people to verify it for you technically. I mean there are other ways to solve it, that don't spam the blockchain.
Like centralized, unverifiable databases?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2013, 12:48:57 AM
#17
●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.

I could go thru many of these points and argue, saying there are other ways to solve these issues. But if you want to really kill off first bits, create an alt coin like namecoin that all they do is store shortener ID and the bitcoin address it points to. First bits is at the basic an encourage of spam and we can't have that right now.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.  Firstbits do not create spam any more than any other transaction creates spam.  They solve real problems in a simple and better way than any other address shortener ever has.

Well all it solves is a easily verifiable database, that makes other people to verify it for you technically. I mean there are other ways to solve it, that don't spam the blockchain.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 05, 2013, 12:41:53 AM
#16
●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.

I could go thru many of these points and argue, saying there are other ways to solve these issues. But if you want to really kill off first bits, create an alt coin like namecoin that all they do is store shortener ID and the bitcoin address it points to. First bits is at the basic an encourage of spam and we can't have that right now.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.  Firstbits do not create spam any more than any other transaction creates spam.  They solve real problems in a simple and better way than any other address shortener ever has.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
May 05, 2013, 12:31:51 AM
#15
yikes
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
#14
●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.

I could go thru many of these points and argue, saying there are other ways to solve these issues. But if you want to really kill off first bits, create an alt coin like namecoin that all they do is store shortener ID and the bitcoin address it points to. First bits is at the basic an encourage of spam and we can't have that right now.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 05, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
#13
The current site owner no longer has interest in maintaining the site.  I am talking to him about taking it over and getting it back up and running!
That will be nice if you could get the site back up.

Firstbits are encouraging spamming the blockchain... So I think it is good it is gone.
How so?

Well the way a first bit is calculated is by it's place in the blockchain, so if an address isn't in the blockchain no firstbits can be correctly calculated.

So lets say for very example purposes I had 1gh356 and you had 1gh354 if you gets coins to your address before me, then you would have 1gh35, and I would get 1gh356, even if my address was created before yours. That is why it is a verifiable system.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Firstbits
I guess I don't see how this leads to any large amount of blockchain spam.

It may not but it is extra spam we don't need...
Firstbits are quite useful, actually...  I'll steal from my website's FAQ as to why:

●  Consolidating wallets between different computers.  A quick firstbits lookup will show the full address to send Bitcoins to, rather than having to email a full Bitcoin address to myself or attempting to manually copy it down.
●  Relative needs to pay me back for dinner?  A friend bought a piece of computer hardware from me?  If they need to pay me, I simply tell them what firstbits address to send it to, rather than having to remember to carry a QR code with me or emailing them a full Bitcoin address.
●  Shortening the address for space-sensitive online postings, such as forum signatures, forum avatar text, email signatures, or tweets.
●  Tipping!  In the future, artists might sign their artwork with their firstbits addresses, in an effort to gain tips for as long as the image circulates.  Writing in a full Bitcoin address wouldn't be practical, and relying on a centralized address shortener wouldn't ensure longevity of their tips.
●  Memorizing the Bitcoin addresses of other people.  For example, I might know that my own firstbits address is 1justin, which can prove handy, but because they are so short, I might also remember a friend's firstbits address is 1jones, and a relative's firstbits address is 1jerry.  In this way, I can pay them for any reason at any time without having to ask them for an address first.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 05, 2013, 12:04:50 AM
#12
The current site owner no longer has interest in maintaining the site.  I am talking to him about taking it over and getting it back up and running!
That will be nice if you could get the site back up.

Firstbits are encouraging spamming the blockchain... So I think it is good it is gone.
How so?

Well the way a first bit is calculated is by it's place in the blockchain, so if an address isn't in the blockchain no firstbits can be correctly calculated.

So lets say for very example purposes I had 1gh356 and you had 1gh354 if you gets coins to your address before me, then you would have 1gh35, and I would get 1gh356, even if my address was created before yours. That is why it is a verifiable system.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Firstbits
I guess I don't see how this leads to any large amount of blockchain spam.

It may not but it is extra spam we don't need...
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 04, 2013, 11:27:56 PM
#11
The current site owner no longer has interest in maintaining the site.  I am talking to him about taking it over and getting it back up and running!
That will be nice if you could get the site back up.

Firstbits are encouraging spamming the blockchain... So I think it is good it is gone.
How so?

Well the way a first bit is calculated is by it's place in the blockchain, so if an address isn't in the blockchain no firstbits can be correctly calculated.

So lets say for very example purposes I had 1gh356 and you had 1gh354 if you gets coins to your address before me, then you would have 1gh35, and I would get 1gh356, even if my address was created before yours. That is why it is a verifiable system.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Firstbits
I guess I don't see how this leads to any large amount of blockchain spam.
M8R
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
May 04, 2013, 10:38:35 PM
#10
not very reliable site.

blockchain.info has same functionality!
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
May 04, 2013, 09:52:28 PM
#9
The current site owner no longer has interest in maintaining the site.  I am talking to him about taking it over and getting it back up and running!
That will be nice if you could get the site back up.

Firstbits are encouraging spamming the blockchain... So I think it is good it is gone.
How so?

Well the way a first bit is calculated is by it's place in the blockchain, so if an address isn't in the blockchain no firstbits can be correctly calculated.

So lets say for very example purposes I had 1gh356 and you had 1gh354 if you gets coins to your address before me, then you would have 1gh35, and I would get 1gh356, even if my address was created before yours. That is why it is a verifiable system.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Firstbits
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
May 04, 2013, 09:16:19 PM
#8
The current site owner no longer has interest in maintaining the site.  I am talking to him about taking it over and getting it back up and running!
That will be nice if you could get the site back up.

Firstbits are encouraging spamming the blockchain... So I think it is good it is gone.
How so?
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
May 04, 2013, 07:42:41 PM
#7
The current site owner no longer has interest in maintaining the site.  I am talking to him about taking it over and getting it back up and running!
That will be nice if you could get the site back up.
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