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Topic: F*#king merit system but we have to live with that… (poll added) (Read 923 times)

full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
it's a good idea, but in real, there is a low number of merit to distribute, so  what will you do if at the end of the bounty

you have 80% of people who have 0 merit?  you will give 0 token? and the 20% will share the treasure?

Right only 20% will share the bonus and nothing for the rest. but you have to take in consideration that's a bonus for a Signature campaign. Not intended for a whole bounty
full member
Activity: 392
Merit: 127
it's a good idea, but in real, there is a low number of merit to distribute, so  what will you do if at the end of the bounty

you have 80% of people who have 0 merit?  you will give 0 token? and the 20% will share the treasure?
jr. member
Activity: 41
Merit: 1
Merit is good to protect bitcointalk from a lot of spammers. Many people just make a lot spam posts everyday to pump their activity and get higher rank there. But I'm sure there will be lots of people selling "merit" services in the near future.

a post like yours?  Cool

Do you think my post is spam?  Cry

I think you can copy-paste your post in any thread  speaking about merit...

But it's certainly not your intention, so don't take it personally.


Thank you for your advise, I will try to post something valuable in the threads. Again, thank you for.
full member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 108
this idea is good, but what will happen if someone will abuse the merit system, someone can give 50 merits some users are abusing the merit system https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-users-that-are-abusing-merit-system-2823221

If someone keeps repeating this on large scale. he might get noticed and then painted red by mods. But there are some other issue here which also need to be addressed like :

1) What about the merits lost in the whole process ? Those were meant for genuine posts from good users. Any compensation done for that ?

20 It was introduced to fight against spam. But still see a lot of spam going out in the forum.
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
Merit is good to protect bitcointalk from a lot of spammers. Many people just make a lot spam posts everyday to pump their activity and get higher rank there. But I'm sure there will be lots of people selling "merit" services in the near future.

a post like yours?  Cool

Do you think my post is spam?  Cry

I think you can copy-paste your post in any thread  speaking about merit...

But it's certainly not your intention, so don't take it personally.
jr. member
Activity: 41
Merit: 1
Merit is good to protect bitcointalk from a lot of spammers. Many people just make a lot spam posts everyday to pump their activity and get higher rank there. But I'm sure there will be lots of people selling "merit" services in the near future.

a post like yours?  Cool

Do you think my post is spam?  Cry
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
this idea is good, but what will happen if someone will abuse the merit system, someone can give 50 merits some users are abusing the merit system https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-users-that-are-abusing-merit-system-2823221

yes it's a risk but it's also a risk for him to get caught and red-trusted
member
Activity: 560
Merit: 15
$100k per 1 BTC in Year 2020
this idea is good, but what will happen if someone will abuse the merit system, someone can give 50 merits some users are abusing the merit system https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-users-that-are-abusing-merit-system-2823221
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
Thanks to those who completed the survey

the merit system does not seem to have a great popularity... Tongue

As a reminder, I think this system now exists and will no longer be removed.
So we might as well look at ways to use this system
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
Merit is good to protect bitcointalk from a lot of spammers. Many people just make a lot spam posts everyday to pump their activity and get higher rank there. But I'm sure there will be lots of people selling "merit" services in the near future.

a post like yours?  Cool
jr. member
Activity: 41
Merit: 1
Merit is good to protect bitcointalk from a lot of spammers. Many people just make a lot spam posts everyday to pump their activity and get higher rank there. But I'm sure there will be lots of people selling "merit" services in the near future.
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
I don't think your idea is good for any signature campaign. In my opinion, they should be that mix of posting and merits. I mean that, you can earn 1-10 merits at 1 week to have more prize instead of only posting. As we know, signature campaign used for increasing the awareness of project, services - this is promoting. And you can imagine that, 100 people join Alt signature campaign, so almost of them make some quality post - i said that, quality post but they still don't receive Merits ( because of this is depend on people like their post or not ). And they have a lot of quality post, then they receive nothing or a little, even they have high rank? Do you think they willing to join to your campaign at next week?

Here the Merit is just a bonus in addition to the normal signature bounty. I put an example in my first message. It should help to better understand the idea


PS: this is my 1000th message on this forum

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member
Activity: 196
Merit: 10
I don't think your idea is good for any signature campaign. In my opinion, they should be that mix of posting and merits. I mean that, you can earn 1-10 merits at 1 week to have more prize instead of only posting. As we know, signature campaign used for increasing the awareness of project, services - this is promoting. And you can imagine that, 100 people join Alt signature campaign, so almost of them make some quality post - i said that, quality post but they still don't receive Merits ( because of this is depend on people like their post or not ). And they have a lot of quality post, then they receive nothing or a little, even they have high rank? Do you think they willing to join to your campaign at next week?
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
If merit will be part of award at the end of the campaign then it would be amazing and hunter will be encourage to make their posts ever!!
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
I just added a poll, thanks for the participation

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hmm you brought me just on a good idea
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
I just added a poll, thanks for the participation

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sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
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you cant defeat the merit system or rank up in it if you arent super über super gay for a very loooooong time,

best bet is to simply join and grow with a new community. its like with those armies they get dissolved and new structures are beeing created where the young ones have opportunities to be creative, and not just constantly listening on the "older" more "meritet" ones
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
Yes, Thank you.

Like always a good example is worth a thousand words!

I updated the first post with the exemple.

What I like with this approach is that it gives another "legitimacy" to the merit system and also allows newbee (copper member) to participate in a campaign with a better earning expectation if they really make quality posts
full member
Activity: 630
Merit: 154
Corl - Growth Capital on the Blockchain
So in my example the Newbee copper member wins 666.6 Token and the Legendary nothing.

Now I understand your suggestion and it's make sense. It will encourage participants to create posts with higher quality, to receive more tokens from bounty pool.

PS: I don't like baits, you could change topic title.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
No merit Pool but Token pool.
you earn Token not Merit

Ok, this makes more sense now. That's not as prone to merit abuse than I originally thought. The campaign itself doesn't deal with merits so that's good. Participants would be inclined to earn merits even if they already have a high rank. Some might resort to shady ways of getting those merits, but overall this is probably better than a typical rank-based campaign where you could just enroll with a bought account and shitpost away.


And I don't think this will work. Most bounty participants have 0 merit, because their posts aren't worth it. I'm also pretty sure many bounty participants use many different accounts, and if they have higher hevels, they have sMerit to give. That would mean they can merit their alt accounts, to earn more tokens from the Token pool.

Once the "airdrop" sMerits run out it won't be easy to merit their alts. The OP can come up with some restrictions to discourage alt-merits, e.g. ignore merits sent between campaign participants. Might be harder to track though.
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