Topic: Flat Earth - page 640. (Read 1095196 times)

Your first picture is just dumb, because just because something looks flat, doesn't mean it is. Go back to the analogy of a tiny ant on a large beachball - it doesn;t look round to him because of his viewpoint, but it actually is round, just the ant can't perceive the roundness.

As for your second picture, well the figures are way off for a start:

Highest point in the Alps - 4809m
Distance to horizon from 4809m in altitude = 247.7 km = 153.9 miles (not 190)

And this is half the height of commercial aircraft - 35,000 ft (over 10,000 m) and it's debatable whether you can even see the curvature from there.

So both of the things you posted are bullshit. 

To even slightly see the curvature you need to go a lot higher, for instance in a Lockheed U-2 Spy plane, which goes to twice the height of normal commercial planes.

nice vid on the U-2 plane... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb6r34mSw6s


 

Here you have, research: https://flatearthscienceandbible.wordpress.com/2016/02/16/introduction-to-the-flat-earth-how-it-works-and-why-we-believe-it/

how flat earth work?

people fall edge over to space?

how thin earth be? size flat earth believe brain?

earth footstool possible

you sit see if disappear in butt

then group know if footsttol

only way know sure earth baloon is shoot stupid group in space

At this point I'm not sure if the flat earther thing is still a joke meme or if people actually have started to believe it.

Thousands of years of research led us to this point, and for some reason a few guys with no scientific background think they cracked the code.

Two question, just for shits and giggles. If the earth is hollow, what is lava/magma? And why and how could continents move on a fixed plane, which is what you are stating?

Do you think nomad13666 got banned?   

Earth is not flat you know , if earth flat maybe there are nothing mountain LOL 

Do I make you nervous? Oh..... Too bad. Shit happens. Cheer up. Judging by your attitude its going to happen a lot in life. So yeah.... You should be less nervous in the future or you will die prematurly. And we would not dare to lose such a productive troll. It would be a loss to humanity.

Ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem. I asked a lot of questions and you just ignored them all and attack me personaly. Well..... FUCK YOU. Thats  just rude and uncivilised. I should ask why should I even bother speaking with rude people, not you. But yeah. Ethical standards or any standards of any dialog is in the shambles. I hope you are proud of being a bully. Good for you. Now jerk off with pride.

You know what using ad hominem attack means? That you are nervous, which means Ive won. Bye. You can cease to be nervous. I dont have the will to speak with people that does not want to answer questions or share ideas.


Dont use the dialectic on me and put the words in my mouth so to speak. Only the third passage is roughly right. But yes Ive only answered your question because im not such a brutish fool like you. So I could set some standards when I leave this forsaken pit of brutish fools.

P.S you too can jerk off for only ad hominem attacks.

  Przemax...

So this thread has now devolved to people just literally making things up.

Um OK, but that's not really how "science" works exactly, I mean yeah, you can make a hypothesis and test it or get others to challenge it, but for it to be plausible it needs to be empirically testable for a start, and be based on some sort of physical framework or theory.

And when you say things like "planets could be living creatures" and "Stars are... well. Im not sure. Those apears to be some kind of connected by plasma with the center of the earth, or at least they are just a displayed on the karman line other words the glass of heaven..."

Well, let's just say that you don't sound particularly sure of yourself, let alone capable of convincing other people.

I don't know why I'm posting this really, I mean I'm just here for the entertainment value to be honest. I guess like jonnybravo said, at least make the effort to actually make a proper theory that explains the "plasma connections" or the "displays on the karman line", or even explain logically what you mean.

Scientificky words do not a scientifical person make.  

(But I do suspect you might be a bot...)

Ive stated what science support my claims. And what official observations im basing on the claims. Dont say I dont. You know what science is all about right? I provided what phenomen aka facts made me to believe what I believe. And i was just briefly explaining it. I would need to elaborate more on the subject to be able to make it look less riff raff, but I was asked to explain things briefly, so I did.

You know what science is right? Its everything you can come up but you can defend its claims or its claims defends itself or is not disproven. Its just very briefly speaking.

Thats how science advances by widely speculating even by proving or disproving a science fiction. Lets say Ive wrote a science fiction. Disprove me.


Prove me Im wrong. Something is rotating in relation to something else. Right? Right. Could you prove me its impossible to sky rotate instead of the earth? Why?


No Im not saying that a galaxies are JUST that. All Im saying is that a Galaxies are a clouds of a matter and heat, that how we see it. Im just saying how we see it. ITS how we see it. Thats how science looks like. Milkyway is distinguished from other galaxies because of milkylike look of some matter in the space forming arbitrarly one formation. Those formations are so distant (in official science) that we see them in form of a heat aka infrared light. All im saying we dont know what they are. But thats completly unimportant aspect of the world we live in. To explain where we live in ofcourse. Because to say what is important and what not is arbitrary, just like galaxies are just an arbitrary formations.

Maybe you have some arguments and not just ad hominem attacks huh?


Bravo. You can sometimes logically think. Yes center of the earth aka sky. And how you disprove that? Stars are just dots that shine to our eyes. Even with ultra mega hiper zoom those are just shiny dots. And many astronauts had admitt they had not see any stars in the space. Do you have any claims they do see the stars when they enter the space? Were you in space?



I have told that I dont have any idea what those are, but they are distinguishable from the stars, because we see more than just dots, so those objects are real. Thats all we can say for sure. Maybe someone else can say more about that. But thats completly irrelevant what they are.

Dont laugh from the hypothesis. Its just hypothesis Ive never said hypothesis is a science. Its just a widely guess that it might be. Prove me Im wrong so I will leave my hypothesis.


Yes they cant. You know how rockets work? Air particles at huge speed are hitting other air particles creating a force that is transformed into a an acceleration. Its elementary physics.  Scientists admitt that. You are not scientist are you? They defend themself that space is not a vacuum in 100%. Rockets just cant accelerate in vacuum its against elementary physics.


Sorry but people are not observing the stars just yesterday. There were a lot of historical records that the planet saturn was a lot bigger in ancient times.



I have made a typo. Ive ment a man an astronaut that was a large posture and when he come back the body was crisped and so much burned that it was with a size of a child.

And yes. Nasa fakes some of their flights. Prove me Im wrong. There are a lot of a nasa fakery evidence on the internet.


What facts? Official data? I made an interpretation of official data. Prove me my interpretations are wrong.

I could even wrote a total scifi. Its you as a reviewer must prove me the unscientificality of my views. Thats the buety of science. Anything is possible until disproven.


How do you know that there is a rock magma or even water? The last thing youve mentioned - water just prove me you know nothing about the official astronomy. Astronomers have not found water anywhere in the known universe outside of asteroids. There is a huge quest to find water in the universe and to prove it.

Have you been on those planets to know what they are made of? Scientists dont know. Only nasa claim to be on one.


No we dont know much about them. Thats why the official astronomy sends probes to claim to be scientifical. If only few people on earth are claim to be responsible on landing on mars then sorry. Its not like WE as humanity know a lot about it. We know what those few people claim to know. Thats not hugely scientific in spirit does it?

How are you so sure about these things you claim as facts? Planets some sort of loving creatures? LOL! Since when is rock, magma and water alive? We already know so much about out planet and solar system all you guys have to do is some research.. instead of thinking so hard. Smarter people than you have already done that part.

WTF?

At least the flat earth followers attempt to use some kind of science to support things.  Or they provide funny videos and GIFs.

Your statements:
 * It's the sky rotating, not the earth
 * Galaxies are just some kind of gas heat
 * Stars (of which galaxies are composed) are some kind of plasma somethings connected to the center of the earth - wait... center of the earth?  If we are living on the inside of a giant sphere, then wouldn't the "center" just be the sky?
 * Planets are living creatures???
 * Rockets can't work in vacuum
 * Some planets are falling, but other planets are ascending
 * A giant burned to a crisp, but space is good income so they just keep on faking it to make money

There have been some far out theories proposed in this thread, and some impressive trolling with outstanding creativity... come back when you've at least got a few good memes to share.  Like, one with a living planet would be good (Unicron anyone?)

Back to our regularly scheduled programming... where are notbatman, nomad and the others?  Hopefully they're coming up with some new material

Racist!

my opinion on anyone supporting flat earth at this point.

Yeah... heavy shit you smoke, dude... 

Yeah... Heavy shit. I know. There is a lot of speculation here. All we can do is basing on a small official data we have to make alternative more logical answers.

Im not sure if ISS is fake. There are satelites that think they go around the earth but its the illusion because its the heavens that rotate not the earth. Its easily provable that the earth is not rotating as the earth on the official theory goes faster than the planes so they should move faster in some direction and slower in other directions. They fly in every direction at the same speed.

Galaxies are observed to have a pattern of heat that are symetrical to the rotation of the sky - in official theory its to the earth equator. Galaxies are just gas heat of some sort. So they came up with some stories that have to be this this and if something else is this this and this. They dont know neither do I what those are. It at least suggest that earth is the most important point of the refference in the universe. Im sorry but thats how it is. Maybe you can google the stuff. If you wont Ill try to research it.

Stars are... well. Im not sure. Those apears to be some kind of connected by plasma with the center of the earth, or at least they are just a displayed on the karman line other words the glass of heaven. Yes even the official scientists aknowledge the karmans line. Its the place where things burn in the atmosphere. Officially. Unofficialy because of a clash on some more hard burnable surface.

Moon is a some kind of a disc. Possibly it was one with the sun. It might be the second half of the sun making it one ballish kind of object.

Planets might be - my guess, some kind of living creatures. But thats only my hyphotesis. Those might be seraphins. It might not be coincidence that ancient people where worshiping planets as gods. There is no vacuum in the sky. Scientist admitt that rockets cant work in the vacuum. Some concave earth theorist to name one. Mariusz Szczytynski, thinks those are some descending objects falling from the sky on the heaven vortex. Some of the like Saturn might be ascending as it was reported for it to be biger and closer to the Earth.

Man made travels to space? There were many failures and there were pictures of a huge man burned into a small crisp when trying to break the karmans line on the way back. Those are extremely risky missions thats why flat earthers smile that nasa fake some manned space missions. Those are too risky and too expensive to be done regurarly, but people love it and there is a money in it. So they fake it. It doesnt mean its impossible.

Explain planets, moons, stars, galaxies, men orbiting the Earth on the ISS, man made probes sent into space, and so on...
No worries, keep the coins... use them for your pills, it seems you need them badly! 

And, please, don't start crying "ISS is fake", "Space is fake" etc... we have the flat earthers dumb people already...