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Topic: Fluent with multiple languages, can i join multiple local boards? - page 2. (Read 912 times)

legendary
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From your perspective is it encouraging for someone to pertake in two different local boards ?
Yeah why not, as long as you can use that language at the reasonable level.


because it's has the ability of multilingual language, if we accept such act, it will give room to others and especially offsprings of this community will be using translator to engage into conversation with other local boards.
If we accept? Its' already accepted, there is no such rule against being active in other local boards.



This clearly states that you are not allowed to use any automated tools to post on local board. By the way, automated translator is dangerous as it can totally change the meaning of a sentence.
I don't think that rule is strictly enforced when it comes to occasional post in another local board (or maybe people just don't report them as often).  I personally did it several times and probably some of the others than can be found in that list DdmrDdmr shared. My guess is that rule is aimed more at those who use automatic tool to translate various announcements and then spam them across other local boards.
hero member
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you've probably checked at some recent merit history, I'm not that active the last 2 years as a was before, but I would like to add my profile to the Italian local board as well, as a native speaker, not the Croatian only Wink
legendary
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Luckily there is no rule for that, you are free to post anywhere even using google translator,
There's a strict rule against using google translator aka any automated translator. Let me find the rule for you.

Here you go-
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
This clearly states that you are not allowed to use any automated tools to post on local board. By the way, automated translator is dangerous as it can totally change the meaning of a sentence.
legendary
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after reading the topic of course first what i thought was "damn again breaking BTT rules for years and even don't know about it" LOL  Wink

Luckily there is no rule for that, you are free to post anywhere even using google translator, main point is to keep on topic and add valuable comment to existing  discussion, ask valuable questions, etc,

main rule is to post quality content so if you hold to it everything should be ok even in most exotic boards
legendary
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Although there are bound to be quite a few that have posted on local boards, I only track merit related information. To that effect, the following is a list of those accounts that have been merited on more than one local board to date:

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The complete detail can be seen here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F_D3hzWXl0g7iUTjfzjA7490VnVxVIsOnr-xXSFSIQA/edit?usp=sharing

Note that I’m only considering Merits on Local Boards here, disregarding those in the English sections.

Needless to say that being merited on a given local board does not mean fluent in the language. I figure that, the more merited on a Local Board, and the more posts one is merited on within that local board, the more the person must master the language (not a proven rule of thumb), or at the very least, bring some interesting information to that local board.

There are also likely many profiles that, knowing multiple languages, for whatever reasons, do not venture to go into the local boards.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 2124
To me it is better to concentrate on a particular local board where one belongs because it is like a home here in the forum which we represent and discuss matters concerning cryptocurrency in an easy way,  going from one local board to the other does not make sense to me, it is like showing of his/her multilingual talent.
We all are not same like some wants to restricts themselves to certain area while there are others who want to explore more boards on forum and want to participate in their conversations also.So suppose you are expert in three to four languages then you can surely have a word with them as we are not discussing any personal issues here but general crypto related so if we look at a broader perspective then we all are one community under bitcointalk forum and can engage ourselves in any healthy discussion according to me.

Going outside doesn't mean we are leaving our home permanently so this goes same with writing up on different boards on forum and if he wish to do so then it's good.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 711
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I don't agree with you. It doesn't matter when a user is multilingual and writes post in a different language something that makes sense on different local board and needn't be limit. If you're worried about them spamming then that's no reason to ban users from posting on different local boards when they master the language.
Actually I'm not emphasising or concentrating on banning of a user who choose to make use of multilingual for different boards precisely, I'm considering the factor of feature concerning writing in different local boards. if we duely embrace that as a system, it affects the community in future time, we should reason the disadvantages side of it, not only looking at the advantages aspect alone. Users wouldn't mine to use Google translator to penetrate different boards that they are not fluent for communication or interaction, so therefore i kicked against the idea of pertaken in different board, that's my point, i hope i have made it clear.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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From your perspective is it encouraging for someone to pertake in two different local boards ? because it's has the ability of multilingual language, if we accept such act, it will give room to others and especially offsprings of this community will be using translator to engage into conversation with other local boards. I purposely said it will bring threat indecencies that what ever you discussed in your board will be review to another local community, we don't introduce such because one person may claim to know how to speak four languages by using translator to interpret the letters, let us concentrates to one user one local board.

GeorgeJohn, You would be right if a person starts using a translator. But you must admit that native speakers can always say that a person does not fully speak the language. There was a case when in the Italian local section, bitbollo and his associates found a translator (Filipino, if I'm not mistaken) who pretended to be Italian. Native speakers will perfectly see the discrepancy.
But the question is that a person speaks the language well, and in this case, all responsibility lies with him. He does not need to identify himself to any locale at all if there are no differences and errors in his conversation.
The forum forbids the use of Google translators in local sections, but the forum will not even notice if a person speaks without errors
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To me it is better to concentrate on a particular local board where one belongs because it is like a home here in the forum which we represent and discuss matters concerning cryptocurrency in an easy way,  going from one local board to the other does not make sense to me, it is like showing of his/her multilingual talent.

It isn't showing off as if we have such users on the forum, they obviously won't be doing that for some personal gains instead they're engaging in multi local board posting for the sole purpose of contributing to quality discussion been discussed on the boards. Take an example from my local thread, we get foreigner usually contributing to discussion that they have something useful to add. Although they don't write in our local language but still their contributions are always welcomed.

We shouldn't be advocating for restrictions on multi local board posting because we're simple advocating for restrictions of knowledge that way. What we should be against is the use of deceptive means like translators etc to deceive people into believing you can communicate in their local language.
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from my suggestion i think the best solution or option is to choose a specific or particular you are fluent at as a major as a language, so using this as illustration, someone who's nationality is Russian and base in china and happened to learn Chinese language are not meant to join two different local conversation, because it will be a threat and spam to any of the local section , indecencies that the user is good via both languages. For me it should not be accepted.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever, why someone who is fluent in 2 languages shouldn't be active in two different boards, how exactly will that be "a threat and spam to any of the local section"? I am dying to hear the further reasoning. Smh...
From your perspective is it encouraging for someone to pertake in two different local boards ? because it's has the ability of multilingual language, if we accept such act, it will give room to others and especially offsprings of this community will be using translator to engage into conversation with other local boards. I purposely said it will bring threat indecencies that what ever you discussed in your board will be review to another local community, we don't introduce such because one person may claim to know how to speak four languages by using translator to interpret the letters, let us concentrates to one user one local board.
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I didn't expect to find this in the "FAQ" session of the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ because it is not a common and frequently asked question. However for the benefit of people who may be in this unique position and will need clarity;

-If i can speak, understand and write correctly in two or more languages, can i be a member of multiple local boards and engage in their various local discussions in their respective languages? Is there any rule against it?


Well, as far as I know, there's no rule here stating otherwise, just like every other persons have said, I will like to add that bitcointalk has always been operated based on bitcoin's core values which is decentralization and freedom.
In as much as I know that the Admins here must know the countries each and every one of us is from through our IP addresses, this has never been used or will it ever be used to enforce or limit the boards a member can join or participate in its discussions.
If you know multiple languages and can type/spell in them very well, and you find a topic in a local board which catches your attention or interest, you are free to join the discussion, no one is concerned as to weather you are a native speaker of that language or not.
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Since forum time is now February 24th, so this thread has been left by the OP with no response for 3 days. I didn't find any response from the OP so far although there have been plenty of other users' responses that have been quite useful so far on the question.

I think a cooperative attitude when asking questions should be had by every user creating a thread. Anyway the OP also needs to answer some of the questions asked by those responding to this thread as that is also needed to make the discussion more interesting.

None that I've come across in my few years of being here. However, I do believe that using any form of translator to do that will be frowned at because I've read here of someone who got dragged (and I think tagged too) for using Google translator for translation bounty.
I also found no such rule and I don't think it is prohibited. However it may be different if other local board users who don't understand other local languages ​​well but post quite often rely solely on translations. This might be prohibited by the rules, but iif can speak different languages ​​then it wouldn't be a problem.
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Is there any rule against it?
None that I've come across in my few years of being here. However, I do believe that using any form of translator to do that will be frowned at because I've read here of someone who got dragged (and I think tagged too) for using Google translator for translation bounty. On few occasions I've had to use Google translator myself to get through some local boards that did mention me. I must tell you, some of them had interesting discussions but I couldn't contribute there as that would be me resorting to Google to translate for me. I felt doing that would be pretending to be what I ain't. So, I just read and left. Nevertheless, if you've the ability of multilingualism; go ahead. There's no crime in mingling with others, at least not here (yet).
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It seems the OP's question has been answered clearly by a lot of users and I don't think it would pose any threat if the user wasn't a shitposter. So, I'm just wondering how the OP reacts to that and is he satisfied with all the answers?

Maybe the case will be different when someone who speaks Russian or another local board for years starts posting on a different local board after a long period of inactivity, then changes the password and email because that would be a good reason to say the account has changed hands even if the user later admits that they master the language. So this is a different matter than regular posters in two different local language.
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from my suggestion i think the best solution or option is to choose a specific or particular you are fluent at as a major as a language, so using this as illustration, someone who's nationality is Russian and base in china and happened to learn Chinese language are not meant to join two different local conversation, because it will be a threat and spam to any of the local section , indecencies that the user is good via both languages. For me it should not be accepted.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever, why someone who is fluent in 2 languages shouldn't be active in two different boards, how exactly will that be "a threat and spam to any of the local section"? I am dying to hear the further reasoning. Smh...

I'm always curious as to why a guy who can effectively interact in two local boards is regarded as a threat or spammer on the boards in which he participates.
There's no way a user that can speak and understand two languages will be a threat to the local board she participated in, except if the user is a signature or merit farmer.
But there is a chance for the user to be threat only if one of the local boards she participated in has some sort of secretive meeting.
Having said that, if the OP has the language speaking capacity it will help her in the future to gain back her account if there's the issue of account hack.


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going from one local board to the other does not make sense to me, it is like showing of his/her multilingual talent.
there are people who have dual citizenship, have lived in that particular country, or planning to live in that country. talking to people who live in that country through the forum is one way of trying to find out what is going on about cryptocurrency(or other things) in that country. I don't see anything wrong with someone wanting to have a conversation on other local boards as long as they know the language and do contribute to the conversation being discussed on that local board.
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In my opinion, we are already active in two language. Global and local. If we can be active in two different boards, why not in another local board too as long as you know the language. Don't use anything automated translation. That's it. You are fine to go with more than one local board.
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Sometimes I'm also envy in joining some altcoin discussion of a local board because they are busier than  the official Ann thread. For instance the Cardano official thread is not updated while a localboard thread of Cardano has a livelier diwcussion which could provide more information. Sometimes I translate their thread thru google translate because there more to learn from them. Op is luckier to understand more languages.
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from my suggestion i think the best solution or option is to choose a specific or particular you are fluent at as a major as a language, so using this as illustration, someone who's nationality is Russian and base in china and happened to learn Chinese language are not meant to join two different local conversation, because it will be a threat and spam to any of the local section , indecencies that the user is good via both languages. For me it should not be accepted.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever, why someone who is fluent in 2 languages shouldn't be active in two different boards, how exactly will that be "a threat and spam to any of the local section"? I am dying to hear the further reasoning. Smh...

I'm always curious as to why a guy who can effectively interact in two local boards is regarded as a threat or spammer on the boards in which he participates.

To me it is better to concentrate on a particular local board where one belongs because it is like a home here in the forum which we represent and discuss matters concerning cryptocurrency in an easy way,  going from one local board to the other does not make sense to me, it is like showing of his/her multilingual talent.
If someone knows and writes effectively, there's nothing wrong with them writing on numerous local boards. Is there anything wrong with being a multilingual? On the English boards, we have Russians and Spanish users who do not speak English as their first language.
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I don't think so there is any such rules which restricts us to post on any of the local board and if you can easily understand the particular language and wantto actively engage in the conversations then there's no restriction on the same.The local boards are setup so as the particular community speaking same language and residing in the same place can have regular discussions with each other aside from forum discussions.

But if you have commands over various languages then surely you should engage in them which is best as you are overcoming the linguistic differences on the forum as there are many members who only post in local boards while others post all around the forum.So you can surely do it.
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