Topic: [FOFF] Jambler Signature Campaign (Read 12357 times)
Fight Only for Freedom
A shame, campaigns that are associated with Bitcoin and privacy are getting extinct by the day in BTT.
Is like a fight against Non KYC not just mixers.
I understand Theymos view and reasons but will the government stop only on Mixer or move actively towards Non KYC.
Is like a fight against Non KYC not just mixers.
I understand Theymos view and reasons but will the government stop only on Mixer or move actively towards Non KYC.
BitcoinGirl.Club is absolutely one of the lowest-of-the-low members of this forum.
His modus operandi is that he takes a dislike to you and then goes out of his way to harass again and again. This disgusting person (BitcoinGirl.Club) has once again displayed the reasons why he cannot be trusted or even be liked by others in the conventional sense.
What sort of a deranged low-life would chase admin with the intention of trying to have a campaign removed just out of spite? The answer is BitcoinGirl.Club but let us not forget the name of another low-life egotistic and super-narcissist Royse777 has also been linked.
Even though Royse777 did not have his trust affected over this incident, finally BitcoinGirl.Club has had his trust affected and deservedly so. Of the eight members that currently trust BitcoinGirl.Club, maybe some of them will re-assess their trust when they realise what that low-life has done.
I think the Jambler team need to be punished [perhaps a negative feedback, need a collective agreement but a neutral can be given without thinking much] for scamming the idea of banning mixers on bitcointalk. This is a dishonest nature of a service that offers trust for mixing coins.
You didn't really care about these users, the forum and even your client Jambler. if you would cared for the forum members then you would not reduce the campaign reward when all mixers moved on and Jambler did not have any advertising competitor in the forum. If you would care about your client Jambler team then you would not bring the question mark of [scamming the idea of banning mixer on the forum] now they have. If you would care for the forum then you would not disrespect the idea implemented by theymos. All you cared about is your business and it's advertisement.
You shouldn't have lied on my face. I can not remember if I ever told in public domain, my business is IT. If Jambler leaving the forum cause a major affect for the Pizza Day rewards then I am willing to fund $500. Where is the thread and who is responsible for holding the fund? Someone give me the topic link.
That being said, I will be happy, If any of my posts [1], [2] made theymos to correct his decision.
[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5491818
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5491818
/*Edited*/
His modus operandi is that he takes a dislike to you and then goes out of his way to harass again and again. This disgusting person (BitcoinGirl.Club) has once again displayed the reasons why he cannot be trusted or even be liked by others in the conventional sense.
What sort of a deranged low-life would chase admin with the intention of trying to have a campaign removed just out of spite? The answer is BitcoinGirl.Club but let us not forget the name of another low-life egotistic and super-narcissist Royse777 has also been linked.
Even though Royse777 did not have his trust affected over this incident, finally BitcoinGirl.Club has had his trust affected and deservedly so. Of the eight members that currently trust BitcoinGirl.Club, maybe some of them will re-assess their trust when they realise what that low-life has done.
[...] BitcoinGirl.Club [...]who have been working hard over the past few days to present Jambler as a mixer that provides services to ordinary users .. which is not true.
Excuse me my man! What that F**k is in your mind. I was f**king in the impression that you do not have good IT education but I am wrong. I withdraw some of the assumption I made to the response on the thread in Scam Accusations. You have good knowledge about the product you are working with but you were hiding the real facts and successfully convinced all these uninformed forum members who are in the campaign to believe it's not a mixer but a software provide and BullSh**t. 🤬- Have we lost a major sponsor for Bitcoin Pizza Day? Yes.
Do you think you are favouring the forum by offering the major sponsor of Pizza Day? You are disgusting. You were thinking you favoured the forum when you allowed Jambler as the sponsor of bitcointalk community award knowing and understanding it is a mixer when mixers were sanctioned by the forum? You were knowingly and intentionally disrespecting the decision theymos made for the forum. I think the Jambler team need to be punished [perhaps a negative feedback, need a collective agreement but a neutral can be given without thinking much] for scamming the idea of banning mixers on bitcointalk. This is a dishonest nature of a service that offers trust for mixing coins.
In any case, I can assure you that you are like family to me, so I will make sure that you all do not experience any inconvenience.
You do not lie and guide your family with wrong information.Each of you will definitely receive the highest paying slot in the campaigns to which you will be transferred. Of course, all changes will also take place automatically, and all you need to do is update your signature when you receive a PM from me.
You are suggesting them to trust you again without questioning your shrewd argument. Are you also insulting these members by questioning their ability, they are not worthy of joining any campaign managed by other managers? It sound to me you are planting an auto-suggestion in their mind to be your spokesmen.You didn't really care about these users, the forum and even your client Jambler. if you would cared for the forum members then you would not reduce the campaign reward when all mixers moved on and Jambler did not have any advertising competitor in the forum. If you would care about your client Jambler team then you would not bring the question mark of [scamming the idea of banning mixer on the forum] now they have. If you would care for the forum then you would not disrespect the idea implemented by theymos. All you cared about is your business and it's advertisement.
You shouldn't have lied on my face. I can not remember if I ever told in public domain, my business is IT. If Jambler leaving the forum cause a major affect for the Pizza Day rewards then I am willing to fund $500. Where is the thread and who is responsible for holding the fund? Someone give me the topic link.
That being said, I will be happy, If any of my posts [1], [2] made theymos to correct his decision.
[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5491818
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5491818
They told theymos (aka, the authority), as if it was secret all this time, lol. [...]
It's been months perhaps year, theymos and I talked to each others which is not public./*Edited*/
I'd rather blame all of us who casually dropped out of the discussion when theymos announced the new rule. We had to fight for a better compromise then, this case is only a consequence of that.
It's his forum, it's centralized and he does what he wants. My understanding was that he was set on his decision and that there was nothing I could do about. The announcement thread has 50 pages, so I think people fought enough. 
[...]
- Was Jambler doing the mixing in the background? Yes.- Was Jambler advertising itself as "taking property, improving its privacy somehow, and then returning roughly the same type of property"? No.
- Was that required criterion to classify it a mixer? Yes.
So, according to his precise criteria, it's not a mixer. It's a mixer if we slightly change the criteria, just as Coinbase is a mixer under the appropriate criteria.
Let's get a little more complicated.
If Jambler is classified as a mixer and all requests coming from its partners are mixed through the Jambler engine, addresses, it is logical that then Jambler's partners are not mixers, but only some kind of promotional channels.
In that case, partners Mixtum, Webmixer etc... would have to be acceptable here, because they are not mixers and they do not operate coin mixing.
Whoever snitched, you (all) are a shame. A hit on privacy and sovereignty just so you can have a few moments of power, revenge, jealousy, whatever may be. You are not a “hero” trying to “save the forum”, you would probably sell out satoshi for the US gov if you had the chance and enough to win, either be because of a personal vendetta or because you would profit with it.
I'd rather blame all of us who casually dropped out of the discussion when theymos announced the new rule. We had to fight for a better compromise then, this case is only a consequence of that.
Whoever snitched, you (all) are a shame. A hit on privacy and sovereignty just so you can have a few moments of power, revenge, jealousy, whatever may be. You are not a “hero” trying to “save the forum”, you would probably sell out satoshi for the US gov if you had the chance and enough to win, either be because of a personal vendetta or because you would profit with it.
Take a look at the mirror, this is you > 🤡
Take a look at the mirror, this is you > 🤡
You were knowingly and intentionally disrespecting the decision theymos made for the forum.
theymos is not a holy cow, and probably doesn't want to be portrayed as one as well.
Personally, I would hide such info from him, supporting the right to privacy and p2p transactions.
He is forced to do some things which he probably doesn't want to do himself and that's fine.
I think theymos didn't want to ban mixers in the first place. But his name in the line... so yeah, he must play by the rules.
He probably knew about jambler situation, it looks to be in a Gray area, and probably thought "ok let it be, I will look at it later"
But when people show him over and over again, he is forced to take a closer look.
I understand theymos position. He has done much more for the freedom of the internet than any of us will ever do.
I would be afraid of a lawsuit of legal problems and all that shit in his position. He also has to protect the forum against those legal problems, not just himself.
If it's "Forum Only For Fun", it's a deep one.
Absolutely.The essence of this abbreviation was that 99% of the participants in this campaign belonged to a crowd that published posts for pleasure and not for payment. Ten years ago, it was with this philosophy that the first signature campaign was launched.
Fall only for fun
I could only think of:
"Free/Find Only For Fun"
"Free/Find Only For Fun"
[...]
- Was Jambler doing the mixing in the background? Yes.- Was Jambler advertising itself as "taking property, improving its privacy somehow, and then returning roughly the same type of property"? No.
- Was that required criterion to classify it a mixer? Yes.
So, according to his precise criteria, it's not a mixer. It's a mixer if we slightly change the criteria, just as Coinbase is a mixer under the appropriate criteria.
Sorry, but I have to write this one:
Fish only for fun!
Fish only for fun!
Guys please bear in mind icopress indicated the number of letters! (+- 1). So think again before making an abbreviation.
Fini only for fun
Fold only for fun
Fail only for fun
Thems are the only things I can think of.
Fold only for fun
Fail only for fun
Thems are the only things I can think of.
Fight only for freedom
I do not care about the letters. That is my own full meaning of it.
I do not care about the letters. That is my own full meaning of it.
but a single visit in Jambler would make him draw his recently drawn opinion.
That's not exactly true, it's easy to say now simply because you can't unsee what you have seen, but a single visit was never enough for anyone to come to the current realization everyone now has, when the mixer ban took place I personally took a look at jambler, and I even made a post explaining how it was not a mixer per se, if you only visit the main page and you don't do some digging and reading, you would still arrive at the same conclusion and by "you" I mean the average person who isn't looking too deep to find something or that person has no unordinary skills of some sort.
Be it as it may, even looking at the diagram gives the impression that the part on the left which is labeled as a "mixing platform" still looks as if it's only a piece of the code that is sold by Jambler and owned by the "actual mixer", I personally only came to fully understand all the details after having read everything in the FAQ and some of the posts in the other topic.
So I would like to assume that theymos, have probably skimmed through the website in the same way I did, and things looked to him the same they looked to me, I am sure they would look the same to most people who don't know what we already know, your average mixer main page would have "start mixing now" , "set your fees" , " paste your return address", "set your privacy level" with all those sliding buttons and input fields, Jambler on the other hand, all it has on its main page is "create your mixer" and "become a seller" it certainly doesn't look even close to all other mixers I have seen and used.
Fail Only for Fun ?
Flying Only For Fun
It seems I have a bonus code for $50 for the user who guesses the abbreviation in the name of the thread. 
Fun only for fun?Fake only for fun?
Follow only for fun?
Filling Only For Fun ?
Perhaps "Fun only for fun" ?
Or "Fight only for fun" ?
Or "Fight only for fun" ?
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