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Food is very important, the world's population continues to increase and currently reaches almost 8 billion of course it requires appropriate food ingredients, if the war was due to oil and natural resources, the predictions from experts are that the third world war will be triggered by difficulties food crisis.
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In our country, I think we're far from the food crisis. The supply of primary goods here is continuous and I couldn't see any problem with it so far. If it will be a global crisis, I believe that countries will still unite to support each other just like what happened before. Our country experienced famine years ago and lots of countries have provided us with food supplies. I'm sure that the same thing would happen in the future.
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Predictions from world experts are that the third world war is caused by the food crisis, this is what makes food-producing countries such as wheat, corn, rice and so on have strong political power compared to industrial countries, and in my country there is also an increase in food ingredients because currently the country also fulfills imports.
There's really a problem right now because Ukraine and Russia AFAIK, they're part of the biggest producers of wheat. And you know a lot of foods are needing wheat as an ingredient. One perfect example of it is formula milk, imagine how many babies and kids are needing that and if there's a shortage of supply. The price of these formulas is going to increase and it's just one example, of how much more the other products and foods that have a main ingredient of wheat. It's an effect that we have to accept and we must do something on our own to survive this.

Yes, currently Russia and Ukraine are the largest exporters of wheat (until February 24, 2022 they competed with each other for the 1st place in wheat exports). 

In addition, Ukraine has diversified its agriculture.  In addition to wheat, it also grew corn and was the 4th largest exporter of this crop in the world. 

At the same time, world food security is affected not only by the export of wheat and corn, but also by the export of mineral fertilizers.  Mineral fertilizers are essential for the successful development of agriculture around the world.  Russia and Ukraine are also leaders in the export of mineral fertilizers to other countries. 

Therefore, a food crisis is quite possible. 

Our world is global.  All countries depend on each other.  For successful economic development, friendship and interaction of all countries is necessary (and not mutual hostility and isolation from each other).
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The food crisis will have an impact on every country that experiences it, but this is not the first problem and it must have been experienced before and the government will not remain silent so that in the end it will return to normal. And every country has a lot of good people and it doesn't have to be rich but they help each other and are not selfish.
and I think Africa is like any other continent with its fair share of poor and rich, you are ready to work then food is available. The only exception is they don't have the equivalent food stamps here.
and for some other reason every country should have very poor areas like Africa and that doesn't mean all Africans are poor, and that's because of bad governance.
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Africa was one of the poorest country in the whole world as far as I know, probably the main thing problems with this is their country
economy strategy was very poor, that is why it need to revitalize it instead. So, the food crisis to their own country will be resolve
little by little if their leader is intelligent to think a good solutions for this.

This your comment sound Bias and I guess os because you didn't follow up the discussion and what others have discussed so far. Food crisis doesn't mean it is the only minor nations who are not up to standard are the only people that will suffer from the food shortage, it is going to be all over the world and even the US will not be left out, you remember how corona affected everyone, thats just the way food crisis are also, the only difference is that we see it coming and discussing it with possible solutions will ease it.
Another facts you should know is that because a country is poor is not limited to Africa, we have other countries on other planet who are also poor just that they will make you think it happened only in Africa.

It doesn't also mean that if you live in a 1st world country, you're exempted in the food crisis. Not everyone on those countries are financially stable, there will always be someone that struggle to put food on their table on a daily basis. Food crisis will always be not good whatever country you live in. Everyone should be able to buy it not only the rich people during the food crisis. Many here are just lucky they didn't experience yet how to starve or earn money just to buy food.
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Africa was one of the poorest country in the whole world as far as I know, probably the main thing problems with this is their country
economy strategy was very poor, that is why it need to revitalize it instead. So, the food crisis to their own country will be resolve
little by little if their leader is intelligent to think a good solutions for this.

This your comment sound Bias and I guess os because you didn't follow up the discussion and what others have discussed so far. Food crisis doesn't mean it is the only minor nations who are not up to standard are the only people that will suffer from the food shortage, it is going to be all over the world and even the US will not be left out, you remember how corona affected everyone, thats just the way food crisis are also, the only difference is that we see it coming and discussing it with possible solutions will ease it.
Another facts you should know is that because a country is poor is not limited to Africa, we have other countries on other planet who are also poor just that they will make you think it happened only in Africa.
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I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...
Once you heard the term crisis, it always creates a negative perception. So how can you say that there's nothing wrong about it? In fact, these food prices that are always rising every month, bring so much fears and pressures on us especially if we are only minimum wage earners. There's no way we can save anymore because the funds intended to save have already been added on the expenses for food. Not only the low class people have been affected on this but eventually the whole class in the society. So tell me, how could it be more beneficial for us?

Nothing really good came when crisis occur because for sure all of us will suffer from heavy inflation that will happen and it will cost a lot of us since basic needs prices will shoot up more higher than we expect and actually this is happening right now. So to counteract against this maybe a country should be self sustaining in agricultural products so for seeing this nearly coming maybe the government should find a solution and give priority to their agricultural sector and enhance the capability of their farmers to produce more product to sustain the needs of their country.
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I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...
Once you heard the term crisis, it always creates a negative perception. So how can you say that there's nothing wrong about it? In fact, these food prices that are always rising every month, bring so much fears and pressures on us especially if we are only minimum wage earners. There's no way we can save anymore because the funds intended to save have already been added on the expenses for food. Not only the low class people have been affected on this but eventually the whole class in the society. So tell me, how could it be more beneficial for us?
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the food crisis is a problem in every country, only for those who are developed countries it is not too significant because at least the poverty rate is different for countries that are still in the process of developing economic growth and the country's resources are few, usually the poverty rate is very high and to overcome it is the responsibility of the state and each individual each community to change its economy so that it is fulfilled so that the standard of living changes.
and no less important is the attitude of mutual cooperation and mutual assistance which is now starting to dwindle in every country and individual as if the law of the jungle applies, because we know they are our brothers who deserve to live and be full
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Predictions from world experts are that the third world war is caused by the food crisis, this is what makes food-producing countries such as wheat, corn, rice and so on have strong political power compared to industrial countries, and in my country there is also an increase in food ingredients because currently the country also fulfills imports.
There's really a problem right now because Ukraine and Russia AFAIK, they're part of the biggest producers of wheat. And you know a lot of foods are needing wheat as an ingredient. One perfect example of it is formula milk, imagine how many babies and kids are needing that and if there's a shortage of supply. The price of these formulas is going to increase and it's just one example, of how much more the other products and foods that have a main ingredient of wheat. It's an effect that we have to accept and we must do something on our own to survive this.
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Lol I can’t say I agree with anything you’ve said here. I live in a first world country, and I can tell you food inflation has been a major issue for everyone but the rich. Even if you’re wealthy middle class you’re still having to spend far more and that takes away from other important things (college savings, charitable donations, retirement savings etc). The average person spends a lot of their income on food, so not sure where you’re getting that they don’t.
I would say that all stages of social status have been greatly affected with this high inflation, not only the poorest of the poor, not only the richest of the riches, but definitely all have been suffering seeing all the food prices continue to surge. If you can save 25% of your monthly income before, this time reaching even 10% is very hard to achieve. Of course we may always want to save, but given this present food crisis, its hard for us to save first and budget your food expenses.
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I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...
It will always be a problem for poor countries because it will create more struggles for the people just to survive. Even if we say that the government is responsible for all their citizens, but in most cases when a country is poor, the financial budget is also very low that it can hardly cater to all the basic needs of the people. Some elite citizens may find ways to still live in comfort, but for those poorest of the poor, everyday survival will always be a struggle.
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Predictions from world experts are that the third world war is caused by the food crisis, this is what makes food-producing countries such as wheat, corn, rice and so on have strong political power compared to industrial countries, and in my country there is also an increase in food ingredients because currently the country also fulfills imports.
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Most of the poorest countries are on the African continent, therefore the African continent has the nickname of the poorest continent,
and speaking of African countries I don't think it's going to be that easy to solve the food crisis,
it's been happening for a long time and in that country maybe the income isn't much so it will be difficult too
And that is what many people do not see, if resolving a food crisis was easy then we would have done so and it would not be a problem at all, even if financial aid or even aid in the form of food was given to those countries we must not forget the corruption can be huge even at the highest levels of the government, which means that whatever aid is sent there will end up up enriching those at the top, while those which need the aid the most receive scraps at most.
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I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

Africa was one of the poorest country in the whole world as far as I know, probably the main thing problems with this is their country
economy strategy was very poor, that is why it need to revitalize it instead. So, the food crisis to their own country will be resolve
little by little if their leader is intelligent to think a good solutions for this.
Most of the poorest countries are on the African continent, therefore the African continent has the nickname of the poorest continent,
and speaking of African countries I don't think it's going to be that easy to solve the food crisis,
it's been happening for a long time and in that country maybe the income isn't much so it will be difficult too
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I've read a few articles explaining that a food crisis is coming, I want to tell you something about it. There will be no food crisis for me.
Price of pasta, price of cooking oil, rice or meat will increase 20%? 30%?

That's all right. I don't care much. I can handle it, just like most people in developed countries. We don't spend much on food, increasing that budget by a third is perfectly fine.

The problem will be with the poor countries, but I wonder: is it a problem, or a solution?

There were 100 millions people living in Africa in 1900. Now, there are over 1,500 millions people there. I know that some people live a in a fantasy world thinking that there will be food, jobs, modern housing and all creature comforts for every human, but that won't happen. We live in a finite world, and the population just cannot grow without limit. Number one rule of the world has always been the survival of the fittest...

Africa was one of the poorest country in the whole world as far as I know, probably the main thing problems with this is their country
economy strategy was very poor, that is why it need to revitalize it instead. So, the food crisis to their own country will be resolve
little by little if their leader is intelligent to think a good solutions for this.
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I think the problem because of the food crisis is that more and more land has been turned into settlements and the government only focuses on industry and never cares about farmers, as happened in my country where the government removed subsidies for fertilizers and seed development so that crop yields continued to decline and now become an importer of foodstuffs such as soybeans, rice and so on.

That's an issue in your country, blame your politicians for they agreed to lobbyist and housing development.

Meanwhile, Russia UN ambassador walks out of security council meeting And seem the reason was that their country was blamed for this food crisis.

So there really is a crisis but this is in Europe only where the grains from Ukraine was being held. Its really unclear why the grains can't be shipped but then they are having a war. Ships can't sail due to sanctions afaik. What else should they do, if Ukraine is in that position, they may also get the Russians hungry as they did deprived Russia with water in the past.
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I think the problem because of the food crisis is that more and more land has been turned into settlements and the government only focuses on industry and never cares about farmers, as happened in my country where the government removed subsidies for fertilizers and seed development so that crop yields continued to decline and now become an importer of foodstuffs such as soybeans, rice and so on.
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There was more police in the streets, though. Not sure why.
The more I read your posts the more convinced I am that you are underage.
There are there because over the past couple of months there has been a lot of protests around Europe. In France for example after the election last month there were mass protests around the country, they killed a dozen people and it stopped. Same in UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, Slovakia, Ireland, Poland, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Hungary, Romania... These are the ones I could find on the internet and they are mainly about fuel and transport costs and some of them extended to rising food cost.

Very stupid guess about my age, because you could have checked I registered on this board more than 9 years ago... Actually, I think I'm one of the oldest here, but I'm not the subject. I've been through 6 countries of the list you gave, this Spring (yes, I travel a lot), and this is what I've noticed. In one supermarket in France, there was no more pasta, but I went to another one, and everything was normal. In one supermarket in Italy, there was a sign telling not to buy more than 3 bottles of oil. That's about it.

The medias are always over reacting, just like markets, and people get scared, but there's no reason to panic, yet. At least in rich countries.


Its best to prepare still because I felt it already that McDonald doesn't sell french fries anymore. It could either be the supply chain which they are rerouting them  or held on the port storage only. The media report something of scarcity making countries panic to find other sources. That's how they always are.


Some countries are prepared for famine though. Africans I think have already found away to grow crops on their barren lands. Same with Egypt that already flourished their fish production through the fish ponds and cages they build.  The countries that will worry are the ones relying on imports.
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Zzzzzz. Survival of the fittest my a*s. If only this is truly about survival of the fittest, I'm 99% sure majority of the people in your developed country would perish much much earlier than many in the African continent.

If there's somebody living in a fantasy world here, it is you. You who think that it is perfectly all right for poor people to starve to death while you indulge in your pasta. You who think that the African people don't deserve a good life as much you do. You who think that in the name of a finite world the poor could die while the rich could continue to enjoy life.
I had to laugh at your reaction, because it reminds me of me--but I'm not lolling at the substance of what you're saying, because I agree with your opinions.  Maybe not the one about developing nations perishing first (but that could be true), but certainly about Africans deserving a good life just as much as the rest of the world--they do; all nations do.

I was only arguing along the line of a truly survival of the fittest situation. If a global food crisis -- which OP talked about -- resulting to extreme hunger descends equally upon everyone, many of the people in Africa would definitely live a lot longer than many of the people in the most developed countries. My belief is that the hunger tolerance of people who have known hunger all their lives is way higher than those who have only known abundance. Not to mention the kind and quality of food and water, level of comfort, and the overall living condition.

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Hell, I'm even fantasizing about moving to Zimbabwe to build a signature campaign HQ castle for Christ's sake, so you know I'm in Africa's corner.  The only problem with famine hitting Africa harder than the rest of the world would be some of the governments.  IIRC, it was those governments that facilitated the famine that hit parts of Africa in the 1980s (remember USA For Africa?  Probably not, but look it up.), not necessarily the people being unable to farm.

It would really be interesting to follow that fantasy of yours translated into reality. Perhaps listing that at the top of your bucket list is a good start. I'm sure you'd live like a don there. Worry not about famine, I believe you can get out pretty quickly anytime. If not, your country would definitely look for you and get you out.

USA for Africa as in We are the World?

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But that's always the case, and it'd be true for the US, Europe, and other places as well should there be a food crisis.  People would be at their government's mercy if they tried to produce their own food.  I'm hoping this is all just unrealistic fear, but I'm not saying it never could or won't happen in the near future.

I'm not sure about this, but I surmise somebody or a group of people must be benefiting a lot from all these food crises and hunger and poverty. Regardless, self-sustenance is always a beautiful goal.
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