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It seems like Barcelona have started to be interested in a probable Salah transfer too. There are some rumours about them like they said to Salah that he can join them next summer. I wonder what Salah will think about this. Barcelona would be one of the best alternatives for him I think. Their style is quite good for him to adapt. We haven't seen him in the La Liga yet maybe but I'm confident that he can adapt there too. Barcelona will need to fix their finance until then to be able to meet his demands easier if he decides to join them.

At first I was skeptical that Salah was no match for a club other than Liverpool, but if Barcelona were really interested in a player as great as Salah that would be good news. Given that Barcelona has now risen and can be more stable. It was not only Salah who was rumored to be withdrawn by Barcelona, there was still Lewandowski who had also been the target of Barcelona. If these two players meet in one club it will not be too difficult for Barcelona next season to appear more perfect. Collaborating with Aubameyang is an ideal formation. But the problem is whether Barcelona's finances are now really in a fully supportive condition?

It is an important question to ask, yeah. Barcelona's financial condition hasn't been well for a long time. They have made some sponsorship deals like one of them was with Spotify (If I'm not wrong). However, their current finance might still be unreliable. They might need to sell some players who are worth good amount of money. Frenkie de Jong has been monitored by Manchester United for some time and they seem determined to bring him to the Premier League. This deal can help the team finances a lot but let's see if they will sell him.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 06, 2022, 01:36:01 PM

Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.

Of course he may want to return to Spain, but I think Juventus will accept a 1-year contract for Di Maria. Even if it's only for one year, Di Maria will add strength to Juventus. Juve, which plans to get the maximum efficiency from Di Maria, has already started to make plans for the championship next year. If we think like Di Maria, she is right. It is the most natural right for him to want to finish football in his own country.

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When Sadio Mane leaves Liverpool, they will find it hard to replace Mane. Liverpool have a wage bill they want to keep. Mane deserves an upgrade with his salary, Mane's salary is £100k and Salah is earning £200 that's not fair, Mane and Salah case is similar to Ronaldo and Benzema in Real Madrid. Madrid only found the value of Benzema when Ronaldo left the club. Liverpool owner should upgrade the salaries of his players. I know clubs are very reluctant to change their wage structure.

The gap between mene and Mohammed allowance is so big and it is not fair, mene is a playing a good role in Liverpool just the way Salah I'd playing a good. If mene leaves Liverpool, Liverpool will really miss him .

It's a general belief that Liverpool fans prefer Salah to Sadio Mane, they worship Salah as their golden boy and gives Mane the normal treatment. Both players are system players and will likely fail elsewhere when the system isn't suitable. Tbh I don't think Salah is that much of a big deal than Mane. In fact, when they have faced each other, Mane ratings in those games are higher.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on June 06, 2022, 01:40:58 PM

€25 million is an absolutely small amount for Sadio Mane. I really don't know how the player is not worth close to €50 million at least. He is going to have a big effect on whichever team he decides to go to and he is going to produce overall stats. I think he deserves way more than €25 million. Let's see if Bayern Munich continues their pursuit of this player.

I'm sure they will. When FC Bayern has chosen a player in the past, they have been consistent and almost always successful. It's tactics in a transfer to save money. It's typical German = organised and fixed. For me it's only a question of money. And I'm sure they want to know if Lewandowski has signed somewhere else, that would save a big yearly salary.

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Quote from: cygan on June 06, 2022, 03:06:28 PM

Robert Lewandowski has once again and this time in a polish podcast spoken about his situation at bayern munich and as he admits he has already finished with this club inwardly
he said, among other things: 'After a road full of success and also what I gave of myself to this club, loyalty and respect is more important than business," he said. And he added with sadness: - I was not wanted to be heard after so many years. Something was extinguished inside me. And you can't make up for it, even if you are very professional. (...) I spent eight beautiful years at Bayern and I would like that to stay in my mind. Pride or hubris - no one wins on this.'

He has a good speechwriter. But who am I kidding - these touching stories are of no interest to anyone in the adult business that football is. If he loves Bayern so much, then why the hell did he start this whole scandal instead of fulfilling his contract normally and then discussing a new one if they offer it, or leave - after all, if the club thinks that you have ceased to meet its requirements, then why impose?

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 06, 2022, 01:00:33 PM

I have to say even "good" managers could end up eventually getting worse overtime. Like Ole wasn't really that terrible when he took over, Man United was doing terrible before he came along, and he took them to second place last year right? Just last year they were second team in the league, ranking even above Liverpool. That should show you that Ole wasn't really a terrible manager at all. However, this year he was so bad that he got sacked. So I believe that Erik could end up the same way, just because he may end up getting a few wins during the early season, or even have one good season, do not assume that he will be the next SAF.

My personal take on managers is, that there are only a few trainers in Europe that are really so good that they can really come to any club and make the whole club and it's players noticeable better and where you can also definitely see that they are able to change the way that those teams play football. For me the most well known of such great coaches are Jürgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola, Antonia Conte and Thomas Tuchel. For me most of the other coaches including the one that are currently working for big and well known clubs are not that good in terms of teaching a way of football to the players.
Of course a coach like Ancelotti at Real Madrid does not really need to be that kind of coach, because that team has a lot experience already. There it is enough if you keep the players happy and Ancelotti is probably the best in that regard.

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Robert Lewandowski has once again and this time in a polish podcast spoken about his situation at bayern munich and as he admits he has already finished with this club inwardly
he said, among other things: 'After a road full of success and also what I gave of myself to this club, loyalty and respect is more important than business," he said. And he added with sadness: - I was not wanted to be heard after so many years. Something was extinguished inside me. And you can't make up for it, even if you are very professional. (...) I spent eight beautiful years at Bayern and I would like that to stay in my mind. Pride or hubris - no one wins on this.'

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The one abandoned midfielder Donny Van de Beek who got signed during Ole era but was later ruled out of his plan and also the next temporal manager, Ralf Ragnick who took over didn't include him in his game plan. It was one hell of a season for the 25years Dutchman. But United new boss, Erik Ten Hag who happens to be Ajax former boss is looking forward to include Van de Beek in his plans and also in pursuit to sign Frank De Jong from Barcelona. It seems Erik Ten Hag will probably put United back on track.

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I have heard that Bayern Munich already made an offer for Sadio Mane which equals to a sum around 25 million pounds. But Liverpool turned it down. It is a funny offer to me honestly because his current market value is 80 million euros but the offer is even below the half of his value. I'm aware of a fact that Sadio Mane is 30 years old now but he is still a very productive player. He is among one of the best players now so I believe he deserves a proper deal. He wants to leave Liverpool anyway though so I wonder if he will be unhappy about Liverpool's action.

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Quote from: izsara on June 06, 2022, 12:06:31 PM

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In fact, is really strange to see an offer for Sadio Mane at only £25m. I guess that his value is at least 3x more than of this one, maybe Bayern if is really interested will re-launch with another offer more higher than this one.

My question is, how Mane will play the next year in Bayern Munich? Huh

That's right. This price is clearly not in accordance with the quality of Mane in my opinion and it is clearly very cheap and it is very reasonable for Liverpool to refuse because it would be outrageous to agree to this price.
Mane's future will still be possible at Bayern provided Bayern make a more reasonable deal here as 25 million Euros for a Mane would be like an insult

It is true that the price is not fair for a talisman such as Mane, but with a year left on his contract and Liverpool unwilling to increase his wage cap. it is a fair deal. Its either Liverpool cash in 25m or lose him for free in just 9 months. The same can be reported for salah, but it remains to be seen which clubside has offers for Salah

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 06, 2022, 01:36:01 PM

Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.

Angel Di Maria is a top class striker regardless of his age. PSG refusal to renew his contract is heartbreaking because he has given his best to the team and deserves that preference of contract renewal. But because of the quality strikers at the clubs disposal they find it very easy to drop a prolific winger. The contract length shouldn't be a problem. It would be quit safer for Juventus to sign a one year contract because Angel is 34 and his performance for the next two years is unpredictable. They should sign a one year contract with a clause of one year renewal. If Juventus have a good campaign next season, Angel Di Maria would be lured or enticed to sign a new contract. He can still end his career in Argentina even at the age of 36.

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There are some interesting rumours about Gabriel Jesus now. It is said that Arsenal are prepared to pay £190,000 per week to him to bring him this summer. It means that he will earn £100,000 more weekly. It would be a very favorable deal for Gabriel Jesus I assume. After Erling Haaland's coming here, Gabriel Jesus won't be able to have much chance in the end. It would be the best for him to leave and join a team that he can play in the starting eleven regularly. Arsenal are one of the best choices for him because of that.

It is very much obvious that Jesus has to leave Manchester City at this time. There is no doubt that he is a good player, but I am not sure he is better than any of the men at the front (Forden, Sterling, Grealish, Haaland and Mahrez). His best bet would be to leave and if Arsenal has offered him upto £190k per week, it is a good business.
But Mt concern is that can we know how much that the likes of Saka earns. Arsenal should be careful before they cause financial and wages crisis in their team, they are not Psg.

Gabriel Jesus really suits arsenal, because there he will have a good playing time, he already has premier League experience and Arteta already knows him well from there time together at Manchester City but I will still say that arsenal still need another striker to add with Gabriel Jesus if they have a strong ambitious to win the league then players like Lautaro Martinez or Darwin Nunes should be on there lists but I don't think the arsenal board will not support Arteta with another striker.

Arsenal may likely end up not signing Gabriel Jesus and I won't be even surprised about it. I really don’t think Gabriel Jesus is the player Arsenal should sign if they are retaining Eddie Nketiah. In real sense, there's really no wisdom in having two physically similar strikers in the same team. Arsenal don not like spending money on players, their decision making in transfer window over the years has not been the best.

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According to the British Times, the official offer is around 25 million euros + 5 million in bonuses: If they win the Champions League. So it's just only a poker of the sum to be paid and mane will play in the coming season at FC Bayern. I think that is 99% save.

Liverpool reject £25m bid from Bayern Munich for Sadio Mané
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-reject-25m-bid-from-bayern-munich-for-sadio-mane-vt9j8v903

For Mane, this transfer fee is really low. No wonder the offer was rejected. If Bayern München really want to make this transfer, they have to sacrifice a bigger amount of money. If the number increases, this transfer can take place. Mane will do well in Germany. The most important thing is, of course, what they will do in the Champions League. They are already expected to be champions in the Bundesliga again. Big transfers are not made for local success.

€25 million is an absolutely small amount for Sadio Mane. I really don't know how the player is not worth close to €50 million at least. He is going to have a big effect on whichever team he decides to go to and he is going to produce overall stats. I think he deserves way more than €25 million. Let's see if Bayern Munich continues their pursuit of this player.

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Even though it seemed almost certain that Di Maria would play for Juventus from next season, there are now some complications. The biggest problem seems to be in the contract length. Juventus wants him to sign a 2-year contract, but Angel only wants a 1-year deal because his wish is to end his playing career in Argentina. Barcelona has now stepped in and although I haven't read anything yet about the type of contract they are ready to offer him, he might prefer going back to Spain than going to Juve.

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Quote from: BALIK on June 05, 2022, 12:12:47 PM

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First of all, this is outdated data, right? After all, Mbappe is definitely not in 7th place right now. Also, this is official data, but everyone knows that some clubs (such as City and PSG) are engaged in fraud and pay players extra money through front companies "for consulting services" and "advertising contracts". If we take into account this shadow side of the market, then the situation with wage inflation will be even more clearly visible.

As far as I've heard Mbappe's wages are the most now. However, I have not seen any official news regarding this yet. However, the interesting thing is that none of the 7 players mentioned in the list, except Mbappe, any player on this list did play well in last season. Since the clubs are paying them high wages, the club naturally expects a lot from them. But the players have completely failed to meet expectations.

Officially, his salary is 57 million a year after taxes. Plus bonuses that in three years bring this earnings to 300 million, though I can’t understand with or without salary - but in any case, this is a cosmic amount.
As for the performance of the players, this is a good observation, but I would say that only Bale, Hazard and Grinzman clearly failed, the rest more or less worked their salaries. Someone is better, someone is worse, but at a decent level.

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I have to say even "good" managers could end up eventually getting worse overtime. Like Ole wasn't really that terrible when he took over, Man United was doing terrible before he came along, and he took them to second place last year right? Just last year they were second team in the league, ranking even above Liverpool. That should show you that Ole wasn't really a terrible manager at all. However, this year he was so bad that he got sacked. So I believe that Erik could end up the same way, just because he may end up getting a few wins during the early season, or even have one good season, do not assume that he will be the next SAF.

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Quote from: Igebotz on June 06, 2022, 12:49:17 PM

Quote from: naira on June 06, 2022, 11:47:35 AM

Lol

that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !! Grin

You've gotten lost in your sentence. What were the expectations for someone in his first few days at the office whose players are on international duty? You didn't make any point.

Quote from: BALIK on June 06, 2022, 12:17:22 PM

So, the coach will have to work with absolutely a new team basically. Erik ten hag is also trying to make some change in the Manchester United team and the way Manchester United have played the last season was absolutely bad. They have no chemistry with each other and the intention was more like not losing instead of winning. I hope EtH will be able to change that.

He inherited a poor team with many positions to fill, so I wouldn't expect any Manchester United fans to have high hopes for him this season. Not every manager exploits in their first two years in charge. Klopp spent nearly three years digging Liverpool out of the mud.

Sure sir. I guess that this first year will be an year of experiment for Ten Hag. I don't believe that he can do more than Rangnick. I hope that the club will give to him the possibility to build a project in way to demonstrate

his ability. I don't think that he will do something of good, as I said Ten Hag, like the other dutch manager, are good only in their country. But I can be wrong and we could have a big surprise Grin

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Quote from: naira on June 06, 2022, 11:47:35 AM

Lol

that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !! Grin

You've gotten lost in your sentence. What were the expectations for someone in his first few days at the office whose players are on international duty? You didn't make any point.

Quote from: BALIK on June 06, 2022, 12:17:22 PM

So, the coach will have to work with absolutely a new team basically. Erik ten hag is also trying to make some change in the Manchester United team and the way Manchester United have played the last season was absolutely bad. They have no chemistry with each other and the intention was more like not losing instead of winning. I hope EtH will be able to change that.

He inherited a poor team with many positions to fill, so I wouldn't expect any Manchester United fans to have high hopes for him this season. Not every manager exploits in their first two years in charge. Klopp spent nearly three years digging Liverpool out of the mud.

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Quote from: naira on June 06, 2022, 11:47:35 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on June 06, 2022, 11:08:44 AM

What kind of enhancement are you referring to? ETH had no business with out-of-contract players leaving the club; there is nothing he could do to prevent that from happening, and he has no 100% control over who the club wants; he is not given the power to oversee transfers; his only job is to make suggestions on which players he would like to work with, but it is up to the club to decide what is best for the club's interests. He has yet to begin a single training session, but you're already tired of him? Grin

Lol

that's why I said that I "still haven't seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Because if Erik Ten Hag had started coaching Manchester United players, the sentence would automatically be "I have seen the improvement that Erik ten Hag has made". Is this logical enough to play on words? Don't get stuck !! Grin

Well, improvement is not going to be so fast. Manchester United will have to wait for it because they have not played well at all this season and a lot of players are going to leave Manchester United.

So, the coach will have to work with absolutely a new team basically. Erik ten hag is also trying to make some change in the Manchester United team and the way Manchester United have played the last season was absolutely bad. They have no chemistry with each other and the intention was more like not losing instead of winning. I hope EtH will be able to change that.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 06, 2022, 11:43:57 AM

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Even if Sadio Mane and Salah leaves Liverpool, they will do well.

a few hours ago I saw news that bayern was offering 27 million per mane, but liverpool wants 41 million dollars, this opens up hope for the man not to leave liverpool, honestly I don't see any advantage in him leaving liverpool, the guy is a player with a guaranteed place in liverpool because he wants to leave a good team where he has a guaranteed place to go to a team like bayer where they don't even have to work hard to win the bundesliga? about salah i believe he will stay in liverpool. the question here is how the liverpool coach will deal if mane really leaves liverpool, luiz diaz is a great player, diogo jota too, but they will need to have a player who also has the same characteristics as him. looking at our main opponent, City, I would say that next season we are lost, City will be 2X stronger than this season in terms of attack

I don't know why Liverpool are underestimating the impact of Sadio Mane, he is undisputed in that squad, they should show him more love by increasing his salary,he is not asking of too much, if he is to go to Manchester United or Chelsea they will pay him more than what he want Liverpool to pay him, I know they will be thinking that Luis Diaz can replace all they need is get a new striker but I think Sadio Mane should be giving more respect.

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