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The offer from the Saudi Arabian club is already very unreasonable and even strange, just to bring in Vinicius they want to show that money there has no value. I mean 300 million Euros is crazy Al Hilal has indirectly destroyed the transfer market with their excessive ambition. But it's up to Vinicius if he gives up in Europe go ahead, whatever trophy he has won with Madrid, remember 300 million Euros has never been offered to any player.
€300 million offer from Al Hillal toVinicius is clearly very tempting and could significantly change his career in the future if he accepts the offer, so far Arab league clubs seem to be too ambitious to bring in star players, so I think the competition for a player recruit will obviously be very tight, So far we have seen that European teams often have to think twice about recruiting star players and this is due to the financial restrictions that bind every clubs in Europe, but what have been my question is, do Arab league clubs also have financial restrictions or not during this time recruiting players?
Because as we know if it seems like they never think about whether the price of the player is expensive or not so far.
once again I will say that it will come back to the players themselves, whether they will choose a career or will prefer money and when looking at Vinicius' current age he should be able to prioritize his career over money. It would be a shame if he chose money when his career was good and he was also in one of the best teams in Europe at the moment.
I see something disappointing in the transfer market lately, because the market value has become very messy because of the ambition of a team. Is this good? or is this bad? what is clear is that the market price is now no longer what it used to be and in my opinion that has an impact on competition in the end.
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What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.
The coach should be the one who has the responsibility whenever the team gets bad result. Why we blame players?  Huh
If Ancelotti doesn't put Mbappe on the lineup, Mbappe won't make the mistakes. Ancelotti can rotate the players in the main lineup and Ancelotti can change the tactics, too. So, Ancelotti actually has some options to make a better game for Real Madrid team.

Football is cruel. Just last season Ancelotti was being touted as a talented coach. But now, there are many rumors that Ancelotti's hot seat is shaky.
I think it's great if everyone (both coaches and players) takes responsibility because if we go down together, we go up together. Everyone has to accept criticism, everyone has to accept that the team didn't play well. The team must fix things and defend better because that's the key.
Ancelotti should continue to focus on his work without fear of being sacked. The authorities still have confidence in the coach and no one in the office at Valdebebas has spoken of a request or the possibility of dismissal. The fans should continue to bet on Ancelotti, not try to put pressure on Ancelotti. He is a legendary coach, not the second Erik ten Hag Grin.
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Mbappe deserved to be blamed. He played like he was not one of world class player, lazy to run, horrible positioning, and many more. He was the one who has very least run in the last week of UCL compared to the so many players from the different club.
I think the graph makes it feel like he does half compared to Salah, while the difference is about 1 KM or so. Not saying it's a good or a bad thing since I do think the strategy affects how much players need to run per 90. Who knows, maybe the coach asked him to do that. Based on historical data it seems like his run per 90 is quite similar[1]. He did output more G/A in the previous years though. It's too soon to say the transfer failed IMO.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/psg/comments/156gjxh/kilometres_ran_per_90_minutes_by_kylian_mbapp%C3%A9/

The graph was only decoration, but the numbers represent anything. 1 KM is a lot when it comes to football running. It's a disgrace when a healthy player under 30 gets out-cooked by Kane and Salah, who are over 30.

Also, look at Bellingham and Vinicius who had even more than 9.5 KM run far above compared to Mbappé. It means they have better work on and off the ball compared to Mbappé.

In conclusion, Mbappe lacks effort to press, build-up, and defence. It's a shame for someone who got 100 millions signing bonus. Not Madrid's mentality.

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Mbappe deserved to be blamed. He played like he was not one of world class player, lazy to run, horrible positioning, and many more. He was the one who has very least run in the last week of UCL compared to the so many players from the different club.
I think the graph makes it feel like he does half compared to Salah, while the difference is about 1 KM or so. Not saying it's a good or a bad thing since I do think the strategy affects how much players need to run per 90. Who knows, maybe the coach asked him to do that. Based on historical data it seems like his run per 90 is quite similar[1]. He did output more G/A in the previous years though. It's too soon to say the transfer failed IMO.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/psg/comments/156gjxh/kilometres_ran_per_90_minutes_by_kylian_mbapp%C3%A9/
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Zidane is a better choice, Ancelotti didn't behave as a nice coach the moment he blamed Mbappe to be the cause of real Madrid problem. That doesn't speak professional of him, he's there to train these players to become great and outperform their opponents. He's not been doing a good job, Zidane would bring forth a better experience that'll motivate Players including Mbappe. Coupled with the fact that he's worked in Madrid in the past, his aura will improve the strength of star players in the team.
What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.

Ancelotti should try a strategy without Mbappe, then a strategy without Vinicius, so he will know who's the problem in Real Madrid. Zidane can't change the team, if Ancelotti not able to fix that, so do Zidane.

It's better to recruit Pep or Klopp, they have many strategy.


Mbappe deserved to be blamed. He played like he was not one of world class player, lazy to run, horrible positioning, and many more. He was the one who has very least run in the last week of UCL compared to the so many players from the different club.

Mbappe should feel ashame with what happened on him. I truly support Ancellotti to drop mbappe in the upcoming UCL game.

It seems Real Madrid got scammed.
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What made Real Madrid what it was was that it didn't compromise, but now I see that both Vini and Mbappe are two privileged players in the team. While Cristiano Ronaldo was once a player who was never compromised on and was sent off the team, making concessions to these two players will make Real Madrid lose more matches. Even if it's Mbappe who isn't playing well, he should be taken off the game. Unfortunately, since the players are aware of this, they try to score individual goals rather than team play and spend their chances generously.
Over time, both players will definitely be able to work well together, they will think that being selfish will only harm the team and make it difficult for themselves, I sure these two players will be sharp spearheads for Real Madrid in the long term considering their greatness in attacking and creating goal.
Real Madrid has Vinicius and Mbappe for the main strikers is more than enough and should maintain them by all means, indeed the departure of one of them may not have big impact but it will be very detrimental to the team especially if something unwanted happens such as an injury then Real Madrid will have difficulty finding replacement.
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Zidane is a better choice, Ancelotti didn't behave as a nice coach the moment he blamed Mbappe to be the cause of real Madrid problem. That doesn't speak professional of him, he's there to train these players to become great and outperform their opponents. He's not been doing a good job, Zidane would bring forth a better experience that'll motivate Players including Mbappe. Coupled with the fact that he's worked in Madrid in the past, his aura will improve the strength of star players in the team.
What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.

Ancelotti should try a strategy without Mbappe, then a strategy without Vinicius, so he will know who's the problem in Real Madrid. Zidane can't change the team, if Ancelotti not able to fix that, so do Zidane.

It's better to recruit Pep or Klopp, they have many strategy.
There is no one to blame here, they just haven't found the right formula if one of them just sits on the bench as if they have no pride as a star player, Mbappe just needs to adapt to his new position in the front line and Vinicius Jr. and Bellingham also have to focus on their current positions and try how they can play the tactics given by the coach, Ancelotti should not blame his players in this case as a coach he should be wiser in solving problems without cornering his players.
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The truth is I don't think that Vini would leave Madrid for anything, he had it in him not to allow him to go to the absurd ceremony for the Golden Ball that for me has no kind of credibility or anything, how is it possible that that ceremony is given to a Rodri who for me has never stood out, well, maybe the Barcelona fans do recognize it, in fact the same Spaniards like Casillas spoke and that if they want to give the award to a Spaniard they should do something more credible, the Golden Ball is simply an act of corruption for me at this moment and they don't have the slightest bit of respect, that's my way of thinking, consequently I think that Madrid protected the player in that way, so how is he going to leave?
I agree with this and Real Madrid have protected their players not to be involved in many ways, especially regarding the golden ball which was finally given to Rodri. If that is the reason for Vini's desire to move, I don't think it makes sense because Real Madrid has provided support. The action in choosing a golden ball candidate is indeed very unreasonable because they did not make some efforts to judge more rational players and finally we agree that they only commit acts of corruption that do not have respect though. But everything has happened and maybe football is more influenced by policies as is the case in politics, but the difference is they hide with the proposition of the rules.
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But even so I think moving from Madrid is definitely not the right decision in the end because it could make things worse for Vini especially since Madrid also sometimes do not hesitate to throw away their stars even though they are valuable players but as long as there is friction and cannot be controlled then indeed with these rumors it could be that Vini will leave Madrid although I don't expect anything like this.


The truth is I don't think that Vini would leave Madrid for anything, he had it in him not to allow him to go to the absurd ceremony for the Golden Ball that for me has no kind of credibility or anything, how is it possible that that ceremony is given to a Rodri who for me has never stood out, well, maybe the Barcelona fans do recognize it, in fact the same Spaniards like Casillas spoke and that if they want to give the award to a Spaniard they should do something more credible, the Golden Ball is simply an act of corruption for me at this moment and they don't have the slightest bit of respect, that's my way of thinking, consequently I think that Madrid protected the player in that way, so how is he going to leave?
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Zidane wasn't sacked, in fact he quit twice in total as far as I can remember. First he quit while he was still winning, but they started to do badly without him so he came back. And after three years in a row UCL titles, he quit once more. Zidane wasn't fired by anyone, that dude did better than any other coach in that short span of time, so there was no possible way that he would be fired.
You are right. As far as I know, he didn't quit or was fired. Zidane didn't want to extend his contract with Real Madrid. It is difficult to understand his mindset, he is a typical of unpredictable coach. He has a perfect career as a coach with Real Madrid, he may feel satisfied and doesn't want to continue it. He may think to get a new challenge but he doesn't manage any team until now.

I am not expecting him to come back neither, there is no way that he is ready for that. He talked about how hard it was and he just wants to spend time with his family instead and that's why he quit. We need to remember, these players travel a lot and spend time at training grounds a lot, so that means they are seeing their family very rarely, that's not ok by some of them.
I actually expects him to return as a manager but Zidane always prioritizes his family. So, he may think it is the time for family, he is no longer interested to continue his career as a manager. Until now, I never heard that Zidane will have a plan to come back soon. It means Zidane probably has no idea to keep managing any club. Well, we must appreciate him, it is his own decision.  Smiley

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I also really want to see him perform magic tricks on the field. But right now, for Neymar, I think he should retire.
If only Neymar had not been absent for so many games due to his injury, he would have been remembered as one of the GOATs. I don’t see players doing tricks on the pitch anymore. It’s almost as if dribbling and skills is a taboo in modern football, players care about increasing their goal stats and also I think most modern managers do not appreciate their players dribbling because of the risk of injuries and the fact that they do not want the players to mess up the team’s game plan. Dribbling is an art, without it, the players look like robots executing a program that has been designed by the manager.
Dribbling or no dribbling, what coach and fans are after is the 3 points. If a player succeeds in dribbling other opponent players without scoring or their team winning the match, what's the gain of the dribbling because winning is what every team is after, not about a player having good football skills without giving their team victory? That's why a team victory in a match is not an individual thing but a teamwork thing. That's to say, dribbling doesn't matter in today's modern football; it is the pattern of play and good results that the team has. That's all that counts especially.
Modern football just looks weird and fully controlled by the coaches. Back then players dribbled and also win their games, nothing seems to stop players from doing same now just because they are not permitted to do so, players are expected to play according to tactics imposed by the coaches, any movement of freedom from any player dominating the viewers experience of the game by using the ball outside of the given tactics might just be a threat to the player opportunity of heading another game.

Football is not just about the points, winning is very important but with same tactics imposed we still have clubs at the bottom of every league and some relegated but yet the fan base still remains loyal despite the fails, this tells that Football started beyond those points.
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bringing back Zidane to replace Ancelotti then this could still be a good option for now even though this might have a transition but until now I think Madrid can still do with Zidane because he already knows the typical coaching of Madrid and has been in his heyday at Madrid as a player and coach.

Zidane is a better choice, Ancelotti didn't behave as a nice coach the moment he blamed Mbappe to be the cause of real Madrid problem. That doesn't speak professional of him, he's there to train these players to become great and outperform their opponents. He's not been doing a good job, Zidane would bring forth a better experience that'll motivate Players including Mbappe. Coupled with the fact that he's worked in Madrid in the past, his aura will improve the strength of star players in the team.

Hmmm, bringing up Zidane is quite a good idea but to be honest this is new era where no more Cristiano Ronaldo, no more Benzema, no more Marcelo no more Kroos etc. Zidane will try his old concept of tactics but it will not work Because Real Madrid no longer has any old players, all new players. So in current conditions the better decision is to bring Xabi Alonso under the management instead of Zidane. Xabi Alonso has the ability to make a better form than the worst form of Real Madrid from the current squad, despite Zidane's preference to sign new players. So I think in this current situation it would be better to sign Xabi Alonso instead of Zidane. 
 
There is no doubt that Zidane is a talented coach, he has already impressed Real Madrid with his skill of management. But at that time there were very good players in Real Madrid. In other words, the most important player in Zidane's era was Cristiano Ronaldo despite the fact that he is no longer there. So it may be difficult for Zidane to run the current squad. So I think Xabi Alonso will be better than Zidane for new coaching.
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It's sad that Neymar is 32 years old, and you could say he's been retired for a couple of years already. Unfortunately, he was very far from fully realizing his talent. I am 99.9% sure that Al-Hilal will get rid of him, they simply don't need him - without him they are breaking all records and winning everything they can. There is no point in them losing 200 million a year on him without getting anything in return.
According to rumors, he may go to Inter Miami to join his friends from Barcelona or to Santos.
The SPL side are already fed-up with the current circumstances they've found themselves when they have dealing with Neymar. This is not the strategy they planned on exerting but they are doing extremely fine without him. Al Hilal doesn't need the Brazilian in the club because he's highly vulnerable to injuries and that's absolutely no good news for the player in question. He missed out on big games this season due to injuries, few days ago he recover fully from injuries and watching him now been currently injured is mainly something to be concerned about because this is absolutely not the specific stats expected from him.
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What a joke he blame Mbappe for the losses, he should blame Vinicius instead.
The coach should be the one who has the responsibility whenever the team gets bad result. Why we blame players?  Huh
If Ancelotti doesn't put Mbappe on the lineup, Mbappe won't make the mistakes. Ancelotti can rotate the players in the main lineup and Ancelotti can change the tactics, too. So, Ancelotti actually has some options to make a better game for Real Madrid team.

It's better to recruit Pep or Klopp, they have many strategy.
No, there is no way that Real Madrid will hire Pep Guardiola. I'm sure Pep also will never consider the offer to manage Real Madrid.
Klopp seems not interested to manage a club in Spanish league. If he wants to manage a team again, he seems to manage a team in Bundesliga.
IMO, if Real Madrid wants to hire a new coach, he seems to choose Zidane or Xabi Alonso. These are the only best options for Real Madrid team, but it won't be easy to persuade them.

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I wouldn't blame Vinicius Jr if he decides to move to a  Saudi Arabian club, I think one of the reasons is losing the  recently concluded Ballon d'Or  award which many soccer analyst believe he deserves to be awarded the trophy instead of Rodri, it's obvious Vinicius Jr is very disappointed by that event possibly might have prompted his purported move to Saudi Arabian league, personally I believe he deserve the award based on his record at the club both in the league and UCL, he might not get the opportunity of achieving that target again instead he would rather  choose to move away from Europe to sign lucrative contract in Saudi.
Ballon d'Or is not a plausible reason and all I can gather is that when Vini went to the SPL it was obviously for money and nothing more so we don't need to think of any possibilities or scapegoat Ballon d'Or as a reason in this case.

Actually for Vini although in the end it is a bit unfortunate with the rumors now where he refused the extension of the Madrid contract and many rumors about leaving but I don't consider this excessive because I think we all have to accept the decision taken only at least if indeed he wants to leave Madrid then he should look for a club that is more than Madrid not a downgrade by moving to a club that is lower in terms of level because it is indeed a shame if his potential is still very good to go to a place that makes him lose popularity in Europe.


Even though he didn’t win the Ballon d’Or, that doesn’t mean he should risk moving to the Saudi league. Real Madrid supported and backed him during this time. If he moves to Saudi, he may very well be giving up his dream of ever winning the Ballon d’Or. Playing in the Saudi league, while lucrative, lacks the competitive exposure and high-profile matches offered by European leagues. It is basically career suicide. Staying in a top European league ensures he competes at the highest level, which is crucial for award recognition. Moving to Saudi Arabia would drastically reduce Vini’s chances of being regarded among the very best in football history.
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Logic says the chances of Vinicius moving to the Saudi Pro League are slim, despite the lucrative deal that might will temp the Brazilian star. Vinicius can earn a high salary while staying in Europe, Real Madrid are ready to make him the highest paid player besides Mbappe. Besides, there are a number of other elite European clubs also ready to offer Vinicius a luxury package, this is not the right time to leave Europe. Of course, there are a number of individual awards that will be obtained if Vinicius continues to play in Europe, let alone stay with Real Madrid.

Vinicius staying back at Madrid or moving to other top European clubs will be preferable than moving to the Saudi league. Perhaps, Real Madrid already know his worth in the team so they wouldn't allow him to go to Saudi league instead they might offer to increase his salary. Vinicius is a world class player who stands a better chance of winning the ballon D'Or in the future and he can't achieve that should he move to Saudi league so he will definitely want to remain in Europe and make greater achievements for himself than decide to move to Saudi Arabia simply because of the huge amount they may offer him. What Vinicius needs now is more visibility in football and not by going to a league where his talents will be hidden and forgotten.
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I wouldn't blame Vinicius Jr if he decides to move to a  Saudi Arabian club, I think one of the reasons is losing the  recently concluded Ballon d'Or  award which many soccer analyst believe he deserves to be awarded the trophy instead of Rodri, it's obvious Vinicius Jr is very disappointed by that event possibly might have prompted his purported move to Saudi Arabian league, personally I believe he deserve the award based on his record at the club both in the league and UCL, he might not get the opportunity of achieving that target again instead he would rather  choose to move away from Europe to sign lucrative contract in Saudi.
Vinicius Junior moving to Saudi Arabian club will be a dumb idea from the fact that top teams in Europe are willingly to get him and even give him a wage that's highly reasonable and fair. He is just still young and can do way more especially in his National team in order to win the Ballon d'Or in a way that no one will have no other option, than to say he truly and only deserve this.
Logic says the chances of Vinicius moving to the Saudi Pro League are slim, despite the lucrative deal that might will temp the Brazilian star. Vinicius can earn a high salary while staying in Europe, Real Madrid are ready to make him the highest paid player besides Mbappe. Besides, there are a number of other elite European clubs also ready to offer Vinicius a luxury package, this is not the right time to leave Europe. Of course, there are a number of individual awards that will be obtained if Vinicius continues to play in Europe, let alone stay with Real Madrid.
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Neymar has been known as a great player from Brazil with an extraordinary talent for dribbling and performing stunning tricks, his frequent injuries are indeed unfortunate and may have hindered his potential to be truly recognised as one of the Goats of today, the tendency to focus more on statistics and efficiency that is often the basis of the coach so often sacrifices the creativity and flair of individual players over the years, but what happened to Neymar, I think it has nothing to do with the manager or the strategy he applies because so far we know that Neymar is a player who has a long list of injuries in his career, even a few days after he recovered from a long injury last season, he had to re-enter the treatment room due to a torn hamstring muscle, so I think, Al Hillal should release him at this time because he is no longer able to contribute for team, besides that with the history of injuries that Neymar currently has, of course, retirement is the right step he should take.


For many of us that knew Neymar Jr and his football talents and potentials from his days as a Santos footballer up till this very moment, we're very much aware of how great of a player he is but at the moment, it seems injuries won't allow him to enjoy professional football again. He's a super creative footballer but the constant injuries he's been sustaining recently have limited him from living up to his full potentials. The latest injury he suffered in his first game for Al Hilal for almost a year is another reason why I think he should consider retiring from professional football or maybe go to lower leagues like the Brazilian league where he'll be less expected to be at his best
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It's sad that Neymar is 32 years old, and you could say he's been retired for a couple of years already. Unfortunately, he was very far from fully realizing his talent. I am 99.9% sure that Al-Hilal will get rid of him, they simply don't need him - without him they are breaking all records and winning everything they can. There is no point in them losing 200 million a year on him without getting anything in return.
According to rumors, he may go to Inter Miami to join his friends from Barcelona or to Santos.
Bringing Neymar in the first place was a big mistake for Al Hilal because from the start he was confirmed to have suffered a series of injuries. There was no positive contribution made by Neymar to the club during his arrival, his purchase was considered a loss. It is unfortunate that his injury became a nightmare at the end of a career that should have been brilliant. Neymar was one of the great players in his prime but now he has lost everything. I think wherever he goes the result will be the same it's better for him to decide to hang up his boots soon.
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I also really want to see him perform magic tricks on the field. But right now, for Neymar, I think he should retire.
If only Neymar had not been absent for so many games due to his injury, he would have been remembered as one of the GOATs. I don’t see players doing tricks on the pitch anymore. It’s almost as if dribbling and skills is a taboo in modern football, players care about increasing their goal stats and also I think most modern managers do not appreciate their players dribbling because of the risk of injuries and the fact that they do not want the players to mess up the team’s game plan. Dribbling is an art, without it, the players look like robots executing a program that has been designed by the manager.
Dribbling or no dribbling, what coach and fans are after is the 3 points. If a player succeeds in dribbling other opponent players without scoring or their team winning the match, what's the gain of the dribbling because winning is what every team is after, not about a player having good football skills without giving their team victory? That's why a team victory in a match is not an individual thing but a teamwork thing. That's to say, dribbling doesn't matter in today's modern football; it is the pattern of play and good results that the team has. That's all that counts especially.
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