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Quote from: Blitzboy on November 07, 2023, 03:39:34 AM

I think that Barcelona's choice not to continue the contracts of Marcos Alonso and Sergi Roberto was based on practicality rather than loyalty. Even though it's painful, this move is the best way for the club to save money since its finances are in bad shape. They're not old by any means, but in today's fast-paced football, even stars that aren't shining as brightly are often thrown out. I find it amusing, if a little angry, that the same school that used to value legacy and contribution now seems to care more about saving pennies than keeping their own.

Considering they are having a lot of debt problems, getting rid of two big contracts would be a smart idea for them. They would be able to get a few players from the youth squad paid a lot better than these players and could provide more than them as well. Not like they need them, they are finding new players that are doing quite well.

Plus it opens the door for people that are free agents to sign with them, since they are getting rid of two contracts, if they do not pay any transfer fee, they will be able to get one or more players that are getting the same contract that these players are getting. They could get someone younger with this method and I think it should be a smart decision for a team with that much debt.

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Quote from: n00ber on November 07, 2023, 09:08:08 AM

However, if Man Utd wants to sell Jadon Sancho, Man Utd will also face many difficulties. Not many clubs are willing to recruit this midfielder at a high price when he has been out of action for so long, and his performance has dropped significantly compared to when he played for Borussia Dortmund. MU may have to sell at a loss equal to half of the money they bring in.

He's a striker, not a midfielder.

Manchester United spent for 73 Million Euros to sign him, but now his market value is only 33 Million Euros. But yeah, Manchester United are forced to sell Sancho at loss since Ten Hag not want to train him anymore.

Quote from: shinratensei_ on November 07, 2023, 09:59:31 AM

Camavinga is a great player. His real position was a midfielder but since he can't compete with some midfielders and he try to play as a defender.

Someone: Camavinga, what's your real position?
Camavinga: Yes

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Quote from: Luzin on November 07, 2023, 06:31:19 AM

Perhaps at the moment the sensational transfers this season are Kane and Bellingham. Kane was very prolific in Munich, he contributed to 20 goals Bayern Munich have in the Bundesliga. In fact, he has made 15 goals and 5 assists. In total he made 17 goals in 13 Bayern Munich matches. It seems like better stats when playing in the EPL.
Bellingham was also outstanding, making 14 matches in all competitions and making 13 goals and 3 assists. It's also better than the stats in Dortmund. I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.

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agreed..
but I dont see the form of these two players in surprising category, because it's expected.
the most impactful transfers for their club are Declan Rice, Dominik Szoboszlai, and James Maddison.
Declan Rice brings more stability to Arsenal's Midfield that Arsenal didnt get that from signing Jorginho. Szoboszlai is now a machine in Liverpool midfield that they didnt have last season. He can do any role given to him in midfield and transforms their midfield to the next level. Maddison is considered the one who makes Spurs look so different this season. Spurs' play looks way more attractive compared to how Spurs played before, and Maddison is the main reason for Spurs transformation.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on November 07, 2023, 09:59:31 AM

Im very happy to tell that if camavinga has made longterm deal with real madrid.

Quote from: https://www.90min.com/posts/eduardo-camavinga-signs-new-long-term-contract-real-madrid

Real Madrid have announced that Eduardo Camavinga has signed a new contract with the club running until 2029.
The Frenchman's previous deal ran until 2027 but Los Blancos have been keen to tie their most valuable assets down to new long-term deals.

After real madrid has been also announcing the new deal for some players last months and another news is coming. Camavinga is a great player. His real position was a midfielder but since he can't compete with some midfielders and he try to play as a defender.
he was still playing properly even in the position that makes him feel not confidence with it. Securing his signature has become the main target caused by camavinga was a potential player for the future.
I hope he can develop himself even better in real madrid. Sometimes, ancellotti needs to give him a chance to play as a midfielder as well along with tchouameni. A nice deal from real madrid.

Realmadrid are doing a great job this season by renewing their contract of their key players especially the younger ones cause they're the future of the club and I think they deserve it cause so far they've been very impressive on the pitch this season and their hard work have helped them to maintain a good record in both UCL and their domestic league, asides that it would help scare away top European clubs that would come for their players, based on the release clause tagged to their contract renewal.

Talking about Camavinga he's a very young and talented player, he's good defensively, versatile and has been impressive since he joined madrid, he was part of their success story when the won the UCL season's ago and since then he's been improving better at Madrid, he's part of the future of the club and they won't want to lose him to another club hence the renewal of contract, also I think Camavinga would make a great Midfielder in future.

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Im very happy to tell that if camavinga has made longterm deal with real madrid.

Quote from: https://www.90min.com/posts/eduardo-camavinga-signs-new-long-term-contract-real-madrid

Real Madrid have announced that Eduardo Camavinga has signed a new contract with the club running until 2029.
The Frenchman's previous deal ran until 2027 but Los Blancos have been keen to tie their most valuable assets down to new long-term deals.

After real madrid has been also announcing the new deal for some players last months and another news is coming. Camavinga is a great player. His real position was a midfielder but since he can't compete with some midfielders and he try to play as a defender.
he was still playing properly even in the position that makes him feel not confidence with it. Securing his signature has become the main target caused by camavinga was a potential player for the future.
I hope he can develop himself even better in real madrid. Sometimes, ancellotti needs to give him a chance to play as a midfielder as well along with tchouameni. A nice deal from real madrid.

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Quote from: harapan on November 07, 2023, 08:23:02 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on November 07, 2023, 07:54:11 AM

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1721801916529688717

Bad news is still coming from the Manchester United camp and this time it seems like Jadon Sancho's fate is hanging in the balance because he has been removed from the Manchester United WhatsApp group. This follows because Jadon Sancho's dispute with Erik ten Hag has not subsided since several months ago and perhaps it is becoming clearer that he will not be able to return to Manchester United's first team.

I don't understand why this dispute has not been resolved until now and when Manchester United is in a slump, Jadon Sancho should be able to think more maturely so that he can end this dispute and be able to strengthen Manchester United again. But it seems that Jadon Sancho doesn't want to make peace with Erik because of the attitude he has taken. Jadon Sancho seems to have no hope of ever returning to Manchester United and we are likely to see him leave sooner than later this winter.

The club is going through a tough phase and all ten Hag does is chase his players who will be useful. Both player and manager are stubborn it will only take a few months and days for negotiations to begin over the sale of Jadon Sancho who has not featured for Man United over two months now. Jadon Sancho I assume is set for leave because if he wasn't he will do all he can to make sure his apologies goes round so he can join the squad quickly.
The signals are clear Man United have issues with chance creation if ten Hag also wants the player in that would have been done the players he choosed are also not giving their all for the team.

The stormy relationship between Sancho and Ten Hag still shows no signs of abating. Sancho and Ten Hag have become a "stalemate." This player has no way back, even if he decides to apologize. Ten Hag's consecutive punishments make his future at Old Trafford increasingly unclear. Leaving would be a good option for Man Utd and the talented young English midfielder.
However, if Man Utd wants to sell Jadon Sancho, Man Utd will also face many difficulties. Not many clubs are willing to recruit this midfielder at a high price when he has been out of action for so long, and his performance has dropped significantly compared to when he played for Borussia Dortmund. MU may have to sell at a loss equal to half of the money they bring in.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 07, 2023, 07:54:11 AM

Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1721801916529688717

Bad news is still coming from the Manchester United camp and this time it seems like Jadon Sancho's fate is hanging in the balance because he has been removed from the Manchester United WhatsApp group. This follows because Jadon Sancho's dispute with Erik ten Hag has not subsided since several months ago and perhaps it is becoming clearer that he will not be able to return to Manchester United's first team.

I don't understand why this dispute has not been resolved until now and when Manchester United is in a slump, Jadon Sancho should be able to think more maturely so that he can end this dispute and be able to strengthen Manchester United again. But it seems that Jadon Sancho doesn't want to make peace with Erik because of the attitude he has taken. Jadon Sancho seems to have no hope of ever returning to Manchester United and we are likely to see him leave sooner than later this winter.

The club is going through a tough phase and all ten Hag does is chase his players who will be useful. Both player and manager are stubborn it will only take a few months and days for negotiations to begin over the sale of Jadon Sancho who has not featured for Man United over two months now. Jadon Sancho I assume is set for leave because if he wasn't he will do all he can to make sure his apologies goes round so he can join the squad quickly.
The signals are clear Man United have issues with chance creation if ten Hag also wants the player in that would have been done the players he choosed are also not giving their all for the team.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 07, 2023, 07:16:31 AM

The another one is Messi because he scored 11 goals from 11 matches and robbed the Ballon d'Or award, obviously a player who has Ballon d'Or is the best player, right? Roll Eyes

I didn't even see Messi, Did he play well with Inter Miami? no I think. Because indeed Inter Miami is ranked second from the bottom order. The stats during 2022/2023 are even worse unless he wins the World Cup. There is indeed controversy, but indeed 3 players who are candidates for the Ballon D'or winner only Messi won the World Cup. Never mind I think it's also unfair, or maybe the highest achievement is the world cup champion? Let's take a look at the next world cup and who is the winner of the Ballon D'or.

Even Messi received the Ballon D'or from Inter Miami owner David Beckham. Grin

. Messi should have moved to Saudi Arabia, and reminisced about Ronaldo. I think he will be more visible to a lot of media than in MLS.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 07, 2023, 06:31:19 AM

Perhaps at the moment the sensational transfers this season are Kane and Bellingham. Kane was very prolific in Munich, he contributed to 20 goals Bayern Munich have in the Bundesliga. In fact, he has made 15 goals and 5 assists. In total he made 17 goals in 13 Bayern Munich matches. It seems like better stats when playing in the EPL.
Bellingham was also outstanding, making 14 matches in all competitions and making 13 goals and 3 assists. It's also better than the stats in Dortmund. I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.

Source: google

Harry Kane is a mature player in terms of playing experience plus the quality he has makes it easier for him to adapt in the Bundesliga. Educated himself in the Premier League competition and now Kane is a Bayern Munich star like Lewandowski. For a long time, Bayern Munich wanted a replacement for Lewandowski and appointing Kane was the right decision.
On the other hand, young Bellingham also amazed us because he didn't take long to adapt to Ancelotti's game. Bellingham's capabilities need to be improved and continue to be well maintained. Real Madrid is the right place for him so that the total goals he collected while playing in Madrid can be said to be the most successful transfer this season.

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Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1721801916529688717

Bad news is still coming from the Manchester United camp and this time it seems like Jadon Sancho's fate is hanging in the balance because he has been removed from the Manchester United WhatsApp group. This follows because Jadon Sancho's dispute with Erik ten Hag has not subsided since several months ago and perhaps it is becoming clearer that he will not be able to return to Manchester United's first team.

I don't understand why this dispute has not been resolved until now and when Manchester United is in a slump, Jadon Sancho should be able to think more maturely so that he can end this dispute and be able to strengthen Manchester United again. But it seems that Jadon Sancho doesn't want to make peace with Erik because of the attitude he has taken. Jadon Sancho seems to have no hope of ever returning to Manchester United and we are likely to see him leave sooner than later this winter.

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Quote from: shogun47 on November 06, 2023, 11:34:05 AM

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If I understand correctly, Mbappe will be able to conduct official (and not secret) negotiations with Real this winter. And I heard Real is ready to sign him (in the summer) only if he signs a preliminary agreement in the winter (a completely reasonable demand after Mbappe has already cheated once). There is no point in a winter transfer since Mbappe has already started playing this season in the Champions League with PSG and therefore he will not be able to play for Real Madrid.

Although I understand that this is the way that has to be considered officially, I am quite sure that any necessary negotiations have been taking place for a long time and I wouldn't be shocked if they are finalized already. Nobody would ever find out or be informed about it. But unless PSG is approaching Mbappe with an offer that has never been seen before, not even in Saudi Arabia, Mbappe will go to Real Madrid next season. Someone here said that Real Madrid doesn't forget and they don't want him anymore because he rejected one offer, but I don't think that is how this will play out.

It is clear that behind-the-scenes negotiations are always going on, but of course it is impossible to prove anything since, for example, Mbappe’s mother and some friend of Perez are not official representatives of the parties, but can communicate with each other. But taking into account these nuances, agreements cannot be finalized since verbal agreements cost approximately nothing (as Mbappe himself showed by deceiving Real).
I don't think Real Madrid have completely given up on Mbappe, but I think there is a possibility that they will replace him with someone else (Haaland) as their transfer target.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on November 07, 2023, 06:50:01 AM

Yes that right. Both Kane and Bellingham have been an incredible players in their new clubs, they adapt very quicky to their new league's style of play and keep performing better above their previous performance because they both went to teams that are better their former teams.
So far, the two of them can be regarded as the best summer signing in the Europe top five Leagues because they have been performing very well consistently more than any other player that changed their team for another team in the transfer summer.

The two of them if both win their respective Leagues, and perform well in this current Champions League campaign, they will come close to winning the balloon d'or next year.

Real Madrid and Bayern Munich should be considered lucky for hitting th lotto in previous transfer window, both elite teams making one of the crucial signings and they've seen the require evidence needed from these player's perspectives performance. Signing imperative players have helped few elite teams retrace back to incredible form and they're exceptionally recording brilliant performance and results. Jude Bellingham moved to La Liga giant and he's extremely at his peak while Harry Kane moved to Bundesliga reigning Champions and his contribution to his new team's have been nothing but actual progress.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 07, 2023, 06:31:19 AM

I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.

The another one is Messi because he scored 11 goals from 11 matches and robbed the Ballon d'Or award, obviously a player who has Ballon d'Or is the best player, right? Roll Eyes

Quote from: X-ray on November 07, 2023, 05:49:55 AM

It is beyond my imagination to think about Antony leaving Manchester United and being loaned out to another club. I have seen that some news stated that if manchester united will be included him in the bundling to get a new winger from another club. I can't remember the name of that guy but it will be a huge loss for me as someone who is regularly how garbage antony is. Remember when he was being clueless after doing 360 spin. Many people were calling him like a beyblade. I see no talent owned by this guy. Antony is way overrated and over priced.

It's all from Ten Hag's strategy.

1. He help Eriksen, Onana and Van De Beek to get better salary because he's ex-Ajax.
2. He help Ajax by signing their expensive players e.g. Antony and Martinez.

Even he need to sacrifice his reputation, but at least Ajax and ex-Ajax's players get a big benefit from him.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 07, 2023, 06:31:19 AM

Perhaps at the moment the sensational transfers this season are Kane and Bellingham. Kane was very prolific in Munich, he contributed to 20 goals Bayern Munich have in the Bundesliga. In fact, he has made 15 goals and 5 assists. In total he made 17 goals in 13 Bayern Munich matches. It seems like better stats when playing in the EPL.
Bellingham was also outstanding, making 14 matches in all competitions and making 13 goals and 3 assists. It's also better than the stats in Dortmund. I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.

Source: google

Yes that right. Both Kane and Bellingham have been an incredible players in their new clubs, they adapt very quicky to their new league's style of play and keep performing better above their previous performance because they both went to teams that are better their former teams.
So far, the two of them can be regarded as the best summer signing in the Europe top five Leagues because they have been performing very well consistently more than any other player that changed their team for another team in the transfer summer.

The two of them if both win their respective Leagues, and perform well in this current Champions League campaign, they will come close to winning the balloon d'or next year.

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Perhaps at the moment the sensational transfers this season are Kane and Bellingham. Kane was very prolific in Munich, he contributed to 20 goals Bayern Munich have in the Bundesliga. In fact, he has made 15 goals and 5 assists. In total he made 17 goals in 13 Bayern Munich matches. It seems like better stats when playing in the EPL.
Bellingham was also outstanding, making 14 matches in all competitions and making 13 goals and 3 assists. It's also better than the stats in Dortmund. I only listen to these two people because they are very prominent. There may be other player transfers that you think are good.

Source: google

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Quote from: X-ray on November 07, 2023, 05:49:55 AM

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 06, 2023, 12:53:26 PM

There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony.
They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team.

It is obvious that Antony is harming the team. I think they didn't get what they paid for him. Antony is a talented player, but if the team cannot take advantage of him, his talents are irrelevant. Like Tonali, he could not benefit the team. Because of the bet, Tonali is of no use to Newcastle United at the moment.

It is beyond my imagination to think about Antony leaving Manchester United and being loaned out to another club. I have seen that some news stated that if manchester united will be included him in the bundling to get a new winger from another club. I can't remember the name of that guy but it will be a huge loss for me as someone who is regularly how garbage antony is. Remember when he was being clueless after doing 360 spin. Many people were calling him like a beyblade. I see no talent owned by this guy. Antony is way overrated and over priced.

There are also many videos in youtube have been well explained how garbage antony is. Have you seen when antony did 360? This is obviously the definition of useless but i will miss him caused by there will be no clown in manchester united.
I don't even know what has been thinking by ten hag to buy this guy with non sense price. I really miss him when he did 360 spin.

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It's fuckin hilarious when i saw him did that trick.

It may be logical that he wants to create a movement that is associated with him, maybe he wants to be remembered. It's funny that he wants to have a place in people's memories, but he can't use it properly. He just spins around silly and doesn't pose any threat to the opposing defender. However, the positions in which Ronaldinho and Ronaldo equalized opponent defenders and scored goals with their unique moves are still remembered with admiration. Such a move must have a purpose.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on November 07, 2023, 02:33:31 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 06, 2023, 12:53:26 PM

There is a chance for Manchester United to lose some money because of their player Antony.
They hired Antony from Ajax in 2022 for 95 million Euros which is a huge amount of money, hope to see good performance from this player and now because of the being under investigation, he couldn't have any benefits for Ten Hag and his team and there is the chance for them to get him out of the team.

It is obvious that Antony is harming the team. I think they didn't get what they paid for him. Antony is a talented player, but if the team cannot take advantage of him, his talents are irrelevant. Like Tonali, he could not benefit the team. Because of the bet, Tonali is of no use to Newcastle United at the moment.

It is beyond my imagination to think about Antony leaving Manchester United and being loaned out to another club. I have seen that some news stated that if manchester united will be included him in the bundling to get a new winger from another club. I can't remember the name of that guy but it will be a huge loss for me as someone who is regularly how garbage antony is. Remember when he was being clueless after doing 360 spin. Many people were calling him like a beyblade. I see no talent owned by this guy. Antony is way overrated and over priced.

There are also many videos in youtube have been well explained how garbage antony is. Have you seen when antony did 360? This is obviously the definition of useless but i will miss him caused by there will be no clown in manchester united.
I don't even know what has been thinking by ten hag to buy this guy with non sense price. I really miss him when he did 360 spin.

Cheesy

It's fuckin hilarious when i saw him did that trick.

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Quote from: tiCeR on November 07, 2023, 04:58:01 AM

Quote from: Silence Scream on November 07, 2023, 04:49:35 AM

Mason Mount's transfer made a lot of noise for Manchester United, but it seems Mount was another transfer on which they spent more money than necessary. Antony's transfer also happened like this. The transfer fee given was an incredibly high price, but we can say that Antony has not been able to repay it yet. Maybe Manchester should change their transfer policy.

You are probably right, but the tricky thing here is that retrospectively it is naturally easier to tell whether a player's transfer price was justified or not. But I think this could also be misleading because what would someone say when Mason Mount explodes and his performances develop into a never seen before level in three months from now? When a club signs a striker and that striker scored 30 goals and then scores 15 goals, it would be too easy to say that the transfer price should have been half of what has been paid.

But I think you are pointing towards a problem that more generally exists and not only the transfer price for Mason Mount was too high, but probably for 99% of the players the transfer prices were too high because the system has been flooded with tons of money recently. I thought about this too and whether these prices can ever be earned through success in football and merchandise sales and viewership in the stadiums etc., but my inner voice says that this system is consuming more than it generates. But my insight is too little to really have an educated opinion on that.

In my opinion, yes, I think like you. Football has now become a place where crazy money is made. I can't imagine the transfer fee that would be paid to Prime Ronaldo if he were in his era right now. Of course, this is also valid for Messi. In my opinion, it is not right to pay such high amounts of money. After all, this is a sport and watched for pleasure. This situation also puts some pressure on the player.

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Harry Maguire's sudden significant improvement this season I think goes a long way to explain how deep football is and how any player can rise to become one of the best for his team even when it's least expected.
The England international was on the verge of leaving Manchester United during the summer transfer window but decided not to leave because of the low wage offer from the club that wanted to sign him. The club manager had thought he was surplus to requirements at the club but fast forward to less than four later, Maguire has been one of the most outstanding player in the Manchester United team at the moment.

Ten Hag encouraged Maguire to leave Man United in the transfer market last summer, an agreement was not reached due to the relatively small salary. If you look at his contribution to the team now, Ten Hag should take back his words. Because when he relied too much on other players and stripped Maguire of the captain armband, this actually backfired on himself, because now he needs the services of his former captain, when other players failed to respond to the trust he had given them.

On the one hand, the captain responsibilities may be burdensome for him, and when we let go of these responsibilities, Maguire becomes freer without pressure. It seems that Ten Hag will no longer encourage him to move in the upcoming transfer market, now he realizes that Maguire deserves a place in the main squad.

Now where is the video of Ten Hag encouraging Maguire to leave Man United, if there is to be a coach that instructed that it should come from England coach who will demand him to leave for a club that makes him the first option in the centre of the defenders.
Improvement like this is what Man United fans wants and they are getting that from Maguire after he has not been the reason why Man United signed him up since 2015 from Leicester City. I did not see a video of Ten Hag chasing Maguire.
Will Antony be sold?

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 07, 2023, 04:49:35 AM

Mason Mount's transfer made a lot of noise for Manchester United, but it seems Mount was another transfer on which they spent more money than necessary. Antony's transfer also happened like this. The transfer fee given was an incredibly high price, but we can say that Antony has not been able to repay it yet. Maybe Manchester should change their transfer policy.

You are probably right, but the tricky thing here is that retrospectively it is naturally easier to tell whether a player's transfer price was justified or not. But I think this could also be misleading because what would someone say when Mason Mount explodes and his performances develop into a never seen before level in three months from now? When a club signs a striker and that striker scored 30 goals and then scores 15 goals, it would be too easy to say that the transfer price should have been half of what has been paid.

But I think you are pointing towards a problem that more generally exists and not only the transfer price for Mason Mount was too high, but probably for 99% of the players the transfer prices were too high because the system has been flooded with tons of money recently. I thought about this too and whether these prices can ever be earned through success in football and merchandise sales and viewership in the stadiums etc., but my inner voice says that this system is consuming more than it generates. But my insight is too little to really have an educated opinion on that.

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