For DT1 members: mhanbostanci & alts - page 5.

mindrust

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 14, 2020, 07:13:35 AM

I don't see anything stopping mhanbostanci from posteing an answer here.
I request Lauda to not moderate posts from the accused ones that are not off topic.

He has a point. I recently made the mistake of posting in a self moderated thread without knowing and It drove me nuts getting all my posts deleted.

I don't **usually** post in any self mod threads neither.

Tbh, theymos should remove that shit.

marlboroza

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Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 12:18:10 PM

altcoin_trader
was once my nephew's account.
when I realized that this account is my nephew,
I forbade him to use the forum. (He was 13 years old at the time.)

You forbid your nephew to use this forum? Wait, you forbid your nephew to make monez online? GTFO LOL!

Please scroll up and elaborate connected addresses from different wallets, I am in a good mood today and I want to hear more "dog ate my homework" excuses Grin

suchmoon

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Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 12:18:10 PM

when I realized that this account is my nephew,
I forbade him to use the forum. (He was 13 years old at the time.)

Did the nephew also use your Bitcoin wallet without your knowledge? And the Linux student too. Makes no sense.

mhanbostanci

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Dear forum members,

I do not deny anything. I write openly.
I know these account holders.
altcoin_trader was once my nephew's account.
Zz is a student I teach Linux system administration.
Everybody knows this in Turkish forum.

altcoin_trader
was once my nephew's account.
when I realized that this account is my nephew,
I forbade him to use the forum. (He was 13 years old at the time.)
This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret. You can query this situation from Turkish users you know.
my nephew did not use the account again. (Maybe it sold, I don't know.)

In a nutshell,
These accounts belong to different people I know.
these accounts are not my sub-accounts.

lauda and her gang may think they want.

yours sincerely,

mhanbostanci

YOSHIE

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Quote from: Lauda on May 12, 2020, 02:54:39 PM

I do not know how I missed that before. Not commenting on the linked thread from 2015, the wallet connection seems very solid. Opinions?

There is no doubt between: altcoin_trader & mhanbostanci, they are one-person Alt accounts.
Transaction ever sent.

Archive: http://archive.is/wip/GbxHf
Archive: http://archive.is/wip/2n90a

TX; https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c40a15b4226b52f48fe3233d95f5e489312f74f8fa35f1c31b65bf0fcd4970de

The address that both of them use.

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altcoin_trader
1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT

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mhanbostanci
1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv

Nothing is 'not' solid, they are very accurate Alt Accounts.

Lauda

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 14, 2020, 10:17:39 AM

I would prefer to continue the conversation here instead of in PMs but... Let's try again to have a normal discussion.

Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 02:10:40 PM

The lie is the biggest sin.

Really, does he think he is the smart user around here and everyone else is stupid?

Quote from: marlboroza on May 14, 2020, 09:38:50 AM

I wonder which "different wallet" does this:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf3ea5bed78e14832d4e43665a607712c72e026edff0f256420e5e28c3c7defd

TheBeardedBaby

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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

I would prefer to continue the conversation here instead of in PMs but... Let's try again to have a normal discussion.

Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 02:10:40 PM

Quote from: iasenko on May 14, 2020, 01:02:55 PM

Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 12:41:47 PM

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!

I don't beleive in words,I check myself and this is what I saw > https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses

these pages try to associate bitcoin addresses that are traded between them. The information they provide is not precise. Transactions between those addresses does not indicate that those addresses are the same wallet.
they claim that these addresses are generated from the same wallet.
The way to prove that it is produced from the same private key is to run SHA256 in reverse. this is not possible.
lauda and her followers prefer to assume that they are the same wallet.

ignorance is bad.
The lie is the biggest sin.

Lauda

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 14, 2020, 07:13:35 AM

Does mhanbostanci or the other accused came with explanation or anything, except this info they left in the negative feedback?
The signed message is pretty strong evidence, you can't go around.

I got a PM from mhanbostanci, quoting below:

-snip

I don't see anything stopping mhanbostanci from posteing an answer here.
I request Lauda to not moderate posts from the accused ones that are not off topic.

The accused members are free to post fully and whenever they want to. Self-mod is not for me to take away the power of the accused to defend themselves, but to protect myself from the usual trolls.

Reminder, all three accounts are apparently in DT2.

marlboroza

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 14, 2020, 07:13:35 AM

I got another PM, I'm posting them here, because I want everything to be cristalclear.

Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 12:41:47 PM

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!

I wonder which "different wallet" does this:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf3ea5bed78e14832d4e43665a607712c72e026edff0f256420e5e28c3c7defd

Cheesy

What is mhanbostanci still doing in DT, user is merit/giveaway/trust/default trust abuser and he is trying to convince people that blockchain proof is not solid one, which is malicious claim itself.

edit

Oh, more retaliations via trust:

edit 2 This address is snipped in quoted post, but timelord mentioned it:

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#Join
Bitcointalk username: mhanbostanci
Telegram username: mhanbostanci
ETH address: 0xe011B678b2aD9bC8C39c1e5B7A9f32CCF7A300a4

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29226783

The same address is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zz-318348 , so eth and btc connection

suchmoon

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 14, 2020, 07:13:35 AM

Does mhanbostanci or the other accused came with explanation or anything, except this info they left in the negative feedback?
The signed message is pretty strong evidence, you can't go around.

In the Turkish thread from 2015 mhanbostanci claimed that one of those accounts belongs to a relative, they shared a computer, and accidentally posted from the relative's account. Unfortunately in some other thread mhanbostanci also pretended to not know the alleged relative and even attempted to do a lending deal with said relative. A classic busted sockpuppet story.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mhanbostanci-altcointrader-split-from-yeni-ckan-cryptolar-frsatlar-1247502

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/50mbtc-borc-datlacaktr-10-1-hafta-faiz-ile-1206095

TheBeardedBaby

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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

Does mhanbostanci or the other accused came with explanation or anything, except this info they left in the negative feedback?
The signed message is pretty strong evidence, you can't go around.

I got a PM from mhanbostanci, quoting below:

Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 12:27:02 PM

I said I would say about this.
there is nothing to defend.
Do not comment without knowing the original thing.
zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You can query this situation from Turkish users you know.
also, this thread self moderated. therefore,
I can't write an answer.

I don't see anything stopping mhanbostanci from posteing an answer here.
I request Lauda to not moderate posts from the accused ones that are not off topic.

I got another PM, I'm posting them here, because I want everything to be cristalclear.

Quote from: mhanbostanci on May 14, 2020, 12:41:47 PM

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!

Then mhanbostanci, please explain that link > https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses

Lauda

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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on May 13, 2020, 04:32:23 AM

Quote from: Lauda on May 12, 2020, 02:54:39 PM

The user mhanbostanci has left me the following rating:

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mhanbostanci 2020-05-11 Reference
The real reason for the negative feedback he gave me is that he is a Turkish enemy. In this regard, the flag was opened and the subject was discussed. zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You are hostile to people you don't know.

Lauda, this crypto-era version of Vlad the Impaler, is now an official enemy of the baboons. If they will ever catch you they might impale you lol.

Being serious now, I see that things escalated a lot since wolwoo's revolutionary topic and I think we'll see more and more Turks involved in this war. Whatever their purpose is, I think none of them should have official positions on the forum anymore, no matter if we talk about being a mod on Turkish section, DT member or merit source.

Ironic how all the claims of abuse always end up showing the true motives behind the accusers. To be called an abuser of trust, and then to get tagged by the same people for "racism". Roll Eyes

Reminder: Turkey / Turkish people =/= race. The accounts mentioned in the OP mutually added themselves into DT2 via Vispilio and others.

GazetaBitcoin

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Quote from: Lauda on May 12, 2020, 02:54:39 PM

The user mhanbostanci has left me the following rating:

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mhanbostanci 2020-05-11 Reference
The real reason for the negative feedback he gave me is that he is a Turkish enemy. In this regard, the flag was opened and the subject was discussed. zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You are hostile to people you don't know.

Lauda, this crypto-era version of Vlad the Impaler, is now an official enemy of the baboons. If they will ever catch you they might impale you lol.

Being serious now, I see that things escalated a lot since wolwoo's revolutionary topic and I think we'll see more and more Turks involved in this war. Whatever their purpose is, I think none of them should have official positions on the forum anymore, no matter if we talk about being a mod on Turkish section, DT member or merit source.

Lauda

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 12, 2020, 04:13:26 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 12, 2020, 03:55:21 PM

There is signed message in that post, you know...

LOL indeed.

And looks like the alt farm was busted a long time ago here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mhanbostanci-altcointrader-split-from-yeni-ckan-cryptolar-frsatlar-1247502

Added that part too, an error on my side to snip out too much of the post.

suchmoon

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 12, 2020, 03:55:21 PM

There is signed message in that post, you know...

LOL indeed.

And looks like the alt farm was busted a long time ago here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mhanbostanci-altcointrader-split-from-yeni-ckan-cryptolar-frsatlar-1247502

marlboroza

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 12, 2020, 03:34:56 PM

If the wallet doesn't belong to a shared service like an exchange

There is signed message in that post, you know...I could probably check loyceV's trust viewer to see this user's trust inclusion and bpip.org for merit transactions:

Do I need to examine loycev's trust viewer?

Edit: I countered both feedback on timelord's and lauda's profile for now and left few -ve, I hope this will be resolved within DT1 system, @lauda, can you edit topic with "for DT1 members:....."?

Of course, I am expecting retaliatory "you are racist" -ve Cheesy

Edit2: as for counter on timelord's profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54442708

suchmoon

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Quote from: Lauda on May 12, 2020, 02:54:39 PM

I do not know how I missed that before. Not commenting on the linked thread from 2015, the wallet connection seems very solid. Opinions?

If the wallet doesn't belong to a shared service like an exchange (doesn't seem so) then the connection is solid. I haven't looked at the bounty abuse part of it.

Did mhanbostanci provide any excuse as to how "different people" used the same wallet?

Lauda

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