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Topic: For the reputation of this forum: you HAVE to rule on this flag! Share 10mBTC - page 3. (Read 1195 times)

legendary
Activity: 3290
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Am i the only one who has a problem with OP offering money (being that in the form of a giveaway) in exchange for participating in flag support/opposition? WTH, really?  Huh
As long as the payment isn't based on the outcome, and the reward is public, I think it's okay. It's different when people pay for for positive reviews or negative feedback (I've seen both cases).
It's certainly a first Cheesy
legendary
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Am i the only one who has a problem with OP offering money (being that in the form of a giveaway) in exchange for participating in flag support/opposition? WTH, really?  Huh
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
-If you use foul language and come in here cursing and swearing you are ineligible. You can still express and be offensive no problem but no foul language or insults.
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If a trusted member (only Senior or more) wants to do the job of the lottery + distribution that would help, please manifest so that I can send you 13.1 mBTC (cauz +3mBTC for your help + 0.1 for transaction fees).
I would have offered to do the escrow, but I'm offended by the "no insults" rule. That's too subjective to base my ruling on. Owlcatz is more subtle than TMAN. Words on the internet don't bother me.
If you allow full freedom of expression (within the forum rules), I can escrow this for you.

Allow me to quote myself on the subject at hand.
Why I didn't Support it:
I was asked to respond here.

After reading most of the topic, including FortuneJack's response about their Terms, I won't Support the Flag that claims they "violated a casual or implied agreement".
I do think the Terms are shitty though. If certain bets are not allowed, cancel them before the match.

Not all the duplicated bets are canceled, only the ones that exceed 100,000 in euros.
You should clarify this in your Terms and Conditions.
Why I didn't Oppose it:
for members (except newbies
Jr. Members will love it! Paying low-ranking accounts to "vote" won't give you accurate results.
legendary
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Opposed the flag.

Never cursed.

Is the 10mBTC escrowed ?
Or are we supposed to believe that you'll send the BTC when you think and feel is right ?

With my best regards.
member
Activity: 389
Merit: 21
Added just one rule: if you come in here cursing and swearing and using foul language you don't participate. For me it is self evident but it is amazing that I'll have to remind some sub-humans to stay civil.
Foul words are OK, but straight up insults are acceptable?  Got it.

My question to you: Is owlcatz correct, despite the offense you took to his post?  I haven't read your scam accusation for the flag you want supported (I will), but you didn't refute his point.  If what he said is true, it makes all the difference as far as whether anyone should support the flag or not.

Edit:

Regarding your no-cursing rule added after the fact, I guess it only applies to members who don't support your case:
These shameless fucks
Why are some cocksuckers even defending FortuneJack here
Hey there, you've come to the right place.

I haven't read that whole thread yet, but seeing as how it's from October of last year, I don't think you're going to get many people to support your flag.  You've been bumping it for a while, so if someone hasn't added their support by now they're not likely to.  Don't know if you're in the right or not, but best of luck to you.

Edit:
Cursing and using foul language does not disqualify.

For the flag, I did not know they existed back then in October, was created just recently.

No owlcatz is not correct. I've just added one thing: you can read my very first post on page 1, answer of FortuneJack on page 2 and my very last post in the thread on page 6.
legendary
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Added just one rule: if you come in here cursing and swearing and using foul language you don't participate. For me it is self evident but it is amazing that I'll have to remind some sub-humans to stay civil.
Foul words are OK, but straight up insults are acceptable?  Got it.

My question to you: Is owlcatz correct, despite the offense you took to his post?  I haven't read your scam accusation for the flag you want supported (I will), but you didn't refute his point.  If what he said is true, it makes all the difference as far as whether anyone should support the flag or not.

Edit:

Regarding your no-cursing rule added after the fact, I guess it only applies to members who don't support your case:
These shameless fucks
Why are some cocksuckers even defending FortuneJack here
Hey there, you've come to the right place.

I haven't read that whole thread yet, but seeing as how it's from October of last year, I don't think you're going to get many people to support your flag.  You've been bumping it for a while, so if someone hasn't added their support by now they're not likely to.  Don't know if you're in the right or not, but best of luck to you.
member
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Merit: 21
I've read FJ's reply to your accusation, and clearly here is where the devil lies (for You sorry)! Tongue

"Correspondingly, we as a company reserve the right to cancel several identical bets and consider only the first one active as well as valid"

All i can say here is if you got your deposit back at least... Well, then...  "Fuck off".... If not (?) ... 🤷‍♂️





Added just one rule: if you come in here cursing and swearing and using foul language you don't participate. For me it is self evident but it is amazing that I'll have to remind some to stay civil.
legendary
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I've read FJ's reply to your accusation, and clearly here is where the devil lies (for You sorry)! Tongue

"Correspondingly, we as a company reserve the right to cancel several identical bets and consider only the first one active as well as valid"

All i can say here is if you got your deposit back at least... Well, then...  "Fuck off".... If not (?) ... 🤷‍♂️



member
Activity: 389
Merit: 21
Hello everyone,
It's been a while that I created a flag against one of the sponsors on this forum, FortuneJack, and I see that a lot of people, especially advanced ranking members, read it thoroughly yet they did neither support nor oppose my flag.

Here's the link for the 120k usd (or 105k euros at the time) scam accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279

In case you're not familiar with this case, you only have to read my first post on page 1 and the posts of @FortuneJack on page 2, and my very last post on the thread (page 6)

And here's the link for my flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298;page=iflags

I am asserting that bet number 3 is a scam in the most pure form, and it is worth 95,000 euros. I am also asserting that bets 2 and 4 in an implied agreement should have never been "cancelled", and are also a scam though in some less perfect manner.

Don't be sensitive, in some way, if I might say it like this, I don't care even if 100% oppose it. So go ahead and make a ruling, I just want closure with this forum.

As a gesture of good will and to demonstrate that I really care, and not trolling, for all participants who either oppose or support the flag, I will be giving away 10mBTC (~300$ as of today) on the 1st of June to 10 members who either supported or opposed the flag. You have the same probability of winning whether you opposed or supported.

Here is how it works:
-There is going to be a list, in alphabetical order, for members (except newbies or those that FortuneJack obviously pay) who participated in this. Date limit is 30th of May 17h UTC. It is your rank on this day that is going to be taken into account.
-Using the hash of bitcoin block number 738888 (which should occur on the 31st of May): All of the numbers in the hash are going to be added, then divided by the number of participants. The remainder of the division (after what we call modulo operation) constitutes the number of the first winner, then the next 9 on the list in alphabetical order are picked. Example: hash 000000037efa8aef04ef675 and 16 participants --> We add 37 + 8 + 04 + 675 = 724 and divide by 16. The rest of the division is 4, so the winners are the 4th to 13th on the list. If the rest of division is 0, then winners are 16 and 1 to 9. If it’s 15, then winners are 15, 16 and 1 to 8.

Who can participate:
-Anyone who is a member, not newbie, does not have a FotuneJack signature or is much obviously in their pocket (a quick profile and messages check will take place. Example: @Hhampuz of course does not participate). Please make sure that your BTC address is visible either on your profile or just leave it in a comment here.
-You can't participate if you have a total trust score (adding positive and negative) of less than or equal to -2.
-In any case the list of participants  is going to be published here before bitcoin block 738888 is mined.
-If participants are 10 or less, no need for a BTC block: The 10 mBTC prize is going to be simply divided among them.
-If, among winners, no BTC address is communicated here or on profile by the time list of winners is created, then the next on the list are immediately chosen.
-People who already submitted a ruling on this before the giveaway also participate

It'll be fun. Let's see what happens.

If a trusted member (only Senior or more) wants to do the job of the lottery + distribution that would help, please manifest so that I can send you 13.1 mBTC (cauz +3mBTC for your help + 0.1 for transaction fees). You'll also though have to do the job of creating the list and picking up and paying the winners:) If any member is appointed as an escrow I will be editing this post and declaring it. If any member is selected he'll be sent the money at most by next Wednesday May 25th. But don't worry! I won't be interfering with your work, nor arguing with you if you were to oppose or support my flag. Just enjoy the job:)

I will most likely not be replying to the posts here since I replied to almost every single argument about this, but your participation is much appreciated.

Thank you thank you:) I know I am already much better in providing a provably fair game than FortuneJack’s “probably” fair games looool (and this is my first time I organise a game!)


With my best regards
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