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Topic: Forbes Magazine calls Bitcoin a "Great Scam" - page 5. (Read 911 times)

legendary
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December 29, 2017, 11:12:05 AM
#53
That is too funny, he reduces bitcoin to rubble in just a few paragraphs:

“At the outset, let me clarify that Bitcoin itself is not a scam, but how Bitcoin is being sold is a scam. More about that below.

To start out, it is important to understand what Bitcoin really is. It would be easy to bore you with a discussion of the technology, about peer-to-peer servers and sophisticated algorithms, but that is not what you need to know.

What you need to know about Bitcoin is that distilled to its technological essence, each Bitcoin is simply a number. That's it: A number. It is simply a series of digits, with each number being assigned to each Bitcoin.

To illustrate, I'll randomly pull a $1 bill from my wallet, which bears No. L88793293J. Assuming some minimal level of competency by the U.S. Treasury, no other bill bears that number.

The face value of a $1 bill is, of course, just $1 dollar. But two people could privately agree that No. L88793293J is actually worth $5,000.

To illustrate Fred wants to buy Joe's golf clubs, but Fred doesn't want his wife to know -- at least just yet -- that he spent $5,000 for golf clubs. So, Fred and Joe agree that No. L88793293J is worth $5,000 and Fred gives No. L88793293J to Joe. Fred then tells his wife that he bought the clubs for the $1 bill. At some later time, when Fred's wife doesn't care so much, Fred pays $5,000 to Joe for No. L88793293J, and gets the $1 bill back.

The only difference between Bitcoin No. ABC123 and $1 Bill No. L88793293J is that at the end of the day, the $1 bill physically exists and has a face value that is worth something, i.e., Fred could take the $1 bill and buy something off the $1 menu at McDonalds.

By contrast, Bitcoin has no intrinsic value -- it is just a number. The number may have an agreed value between two parties, but the number itself has no value. Consider a bank account number, such as Wells Fargo Account No. 456789. The depositor and Wells Fargo essentially agree that the account designated by No. 456789 has the value of what the depositor puts into it, less what the depositor takes out. But the number itself, No. 456789 has no value. The same situation occurs with credit card transactions, whereby the credit card processing company assigns are unique value to each transaction, but the number itself has no value
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I don’t know why you are all so upset. There is not one lie in the article.
sr. member
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December 29, 2017, 11:06:28 AM
#52
Scam or not it's increased my net worth by more than all of my income sources combined, so I'm happy.
legendary
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December 29, 2017, 11:02:55 AM
#51
Some rich people Aware this news like fire in market to reduce down the rate of bitcoin and then they invest large amount in bitcoin and made huge profit.This repeats everytime. we know bitcoin is not fake We use bitcoin regularly they why we are in worried ? lets Retweet on twiiter That bitcoin is not scam and We support bitcoins
staff
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December 29, 2017, 10:59:49 AM
#50
I stopped reading in the first page. "Bitcoin is just a number"  Roll Eyes I could say the same thing for fiat, It's just a paper backed by nothing. I suggest no one read this article, you will be wasting your time.
member
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December 29, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
#49
they are just people jealous, they make statements that drop the bitcoin ..
we will not be affected by such a cheap issue, they just do not know the bitcoin yet, someday they will regret what it says about the bit...
newbie
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December 29, 2017, 10:57:35 AM
#48

Most of the people do not know how to use bitcoin that is why they call it a scam. At some point, bitcoin is not a scam or a hoax. You should just need to know and to learn what is bitcoin and how to use it.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
December 29, 2017, 10:56:16 AM
#47
I wouldn't have wasted a few minutes if I had checked the author's bio first. Nothing new, the same old repetitive stuff, just numbers, not backed by anything/no intrinsic value, and tulip bubble.

I wasted only 5 second on it.

Clicking to see if the title was really the same.
I checked the first paragraph and when I saw ...
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At the outset, let me clarify that Bitcoin itself is not a scam, but how Bitcoin is being sold is a scam. More about that below.
I immediately closed it.

The Forbes magazine has no opinion of itself.
Unlike other newspapers it only relies on co-authors or contributors for most of its magazine articles.
And lately they choose the ones that attract attention ...clickbait.

And to make thing worse, forget about Forbes.
There are a lot of people on this forum who run blogs and spam the board with it that write down FUD articles for the same purpose. Hits and fame. And this while they are bitcoin holders.

Just ignore them and watch a failarmy video instead of reading the "press".


legendary
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December 29, 2017, 10:55:45 AM
#46
It makes sense since Forbes has the back of wealthy people who have a lot at stake in the current financial system. Of course they don't want Bitcoin to replace the old system since they would lose tremendously

is it not the BTC media propaganda (like Coindesk, Cointelegraph and so on) , backed  of wealthy people who have a lot at stake in the current BTC market? Smiley  It's the same shit.
sr. member
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December 29, 2017, 10:49:22 AM
#45
It makes sense since Forbes has the back of wealthy people who have a lot at stake in the current financial system. Of course they don't want Bitcoin to replace the old system since they would lose tremendously
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Any store can buy, sell, and accept Crypto
December 29, 2017, 10:46:33 AM
#44
Meh, just another boring and ridiculous piece of article, wrote by a self claimed educated person who know nothing about Bitcoin. I won't be surprised, if he talks bad about Bitcoin... Better stop wasting time reading this type of b******t and move on to other more useful articles  Wink
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December 29, 2017, 10:44:26 AM
#43
There have been so many articles regarding bitcoin spreading negativities and FUD which results to more people getting interested and curious about bitcoin. It does not matter whether the news about bitcoin is positive or negative, I think it's due to these publicity stunts why bitcoin is gaining popularity across the world. Those who invests in bitcoin must know both sides of the coin.
legendary
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December 29, 2017, 10:43:30 AM
#42
Its really not a great arguement, he basically says it has no value because it has no value.
The dollar on the other hand has value because we all agree that it has value. Well that's the same for Bitcoin.

Share prices and commodities are the same, markets decide the price. You may find the market decided price to be too high or too low, but it is what it is, it isn't a scam!

Bitcoin might be overvalued, or undervalued, it isn't a scam though. It is a weird bubble too, if it is a bubble. It went crazy for a while a month ago, but now hasn't crashed. The next move will be interesting
legendary
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December 29, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
#41
I think the writer of the article has a one-sided look at bitcoin. While many industries are adopting blockchain technology and typically bitcoin, the leading economics magazine claims that bitcoin is a scam. I do not think that a scam like bitcoin can last for so many years, I feel that the newspaper is quite funny when it comes to that.

what industries adopt bitcoin? I only see big companies who dumped BTC, like Steam. Smiley

don't make confusion between a data base (blockchain) technology and Bitcoin.
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December 29, 2017, 10:27:23 AM
#40
Forbes magazine itself carries scandalous themes. First of all, we must remember that the whole news background could always be bought. When the Crypto currency is falling, the news corresponds to these events and just the opposite. So do not believe all the news.
newbie
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December 29, 2017, 10:23:05 AM
#39
The Winklevoss twins don't agree with the author, so who is right?
Who should we believe?
member
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December 29, 2017, 08:19:24 AM
#38
I think the writer of the article has a one-sided look at bitcoin. While many industries are adopting blockchain technology and typically bitcoin, the leading economics magazine claims that bitcoin is a scam. I do not think that a scam like bitcoin can last for so many years, I feel that the newspaper is quite funny when it comes to that.
full member
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December 29, 2017, 08:17:51 AM
#37
Same old story all over.
If they find bitcoin a scam for these reasons,
then they should have a closer look at stock markets.
member
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December 29, 2017, 08:15:53 AM
#36
The technology is so new, that made scare the people. The time will make the BTC, and put it in the right place.
legendary
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December 29, 2017, 08:10:30 AM
#35
I clicked on the link and this is what he said
"At the outset, let me clarify that Bitcoin itself is not a scam, but how Bitcoin is being sold is a scam"
Lets not misquote what is said in the magazine. I am absolutely sure some will leave comments here without finding out what is said.

He's hardly misquoting what the article said. The title of the very article is "The Great Bitcoin Scam" regardless, but it's obviously just an alarmist attention grabbing headline done just for clicks/views. His entire argument seems to be resting on that "Bitcoin has no intrinsic value -- it is just a number" and that anybody else can create a bitcoin so therefore it's a scam. Whilst it's certainly true that anyone can create a coin as many people (or scammers) do, I think it's far more likely that one of those sorts of coins will turn out to be a scam more than bitcoin will. Also, even if an alt coin does take over bitcoin in terms of market cap or dominance that still wouldn't make bitcoin a scam.

Some quotes from the article:

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This means that an investment in Bitcoins is purely speculative -- it is utterly no different than investing in gold, social-media stocks, or tulip bulbs. So long as the number of buyers outnumbers the sellers, the price will go up, but when the sellers outnumber the buyers the price will go down.

Yeah... no shit.

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All of this brings us to the scam element of Bitcoin. Again, as I stated at the start of this article, Bitcoin itself is not a scam. Now let me tell you what is.

The scam in Bitcoin is in talking average man-on-the-street investors into investing in Bitcoin by intentionally obfuscating what it really is, just a number, into some super-sophisticated investment by throwing out the technical verbiage that surrounds cybercurrencies, such as Blockchain technology and peer-to-peer servers. These technologies actually accomplish only one critical thing, which is that they keep particular numbers peculiar to Bitcoin, but they sure sound like Star Trek level stuff. Yet, to those not familiar with these technologies, it makes Bitcoin sounds like it has a lot more worth than it really does.

Well that doesn't make bitcoin a scam (if in fact people are doing this) nor does bitcoin being just a number.

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Will Bitcoin fall? Maybe not today, tomorrow, or next week, but eventually it will fall as the novelty wears off and folks figure out that they are really just buying a number, and the number of buyers diminish.

Bitcoin always falls. Then it goes up again. Rinse and repeat. This is no different than buying stocks or shares of a particular company but we're not calling Netflix or Facebook a scam. Maybe the novelty will wear off for some and the price will fall but there is no guarantee either way. I think bitcoin is here to stay for at least the next few years so the only question you should be asking yourself is do you believe in it and are you willing to invest it it. If so, just remember to only put in what you can afford to lose and enjoy the ride.

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Will Bitcoin go away entirely? Probably not, because Bitcoin still can serve some usefulness as a unit of exchange, to the extent that it can convince merchants to accept it as currency. The caveat here is that when a bubble finally bursts, the object of the bubble usually falls into deep disrepute.

Oh, so now he's thinks it isn't going to go away and has value as a unit of exchange. Not sure what the point of this article is. As others have said, maybe he just didn't buy in early and now rues the missed opportunity.
sr. member
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December 29, 2017, 07:56:40 AM
#34
Nothing new to the news about bitcoin being a scam thing. Many says bitcoin is a scam but many are still interested investing on bitcoin.

Maybe there are some people that being scammed by scammers using bitcoin, like in investing or doubling up bitcoin in an easy way.
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