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Despite calls from Congress to can Director of National Intelligence James Clapper for lying under oath, United States President Barack Obama says that the spy chief should have just been a little more careful with his words.

Clapper, the 72-year-old retired Air Force lieutenant general in charge of the nation's intelligence departments, caused a commotion last year when he was caught lying during sworn testimony delivered to the Senate.

Answering to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) during a meeting of the chamber's select committee on intelligence last March, Clapper claimed that the National Security Agency does “not wittingly” collect and store data on American people. When former contractor Edward Snowden proved him wrong through leaked NSA documents weeks later, though, Clapper was forced to take back his words. He later apologized to committee chairperson Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California) for what he called a “clearly erroneous” remark, and insisted he gave simply the “least untruthful” answer he could give in an unclassified setting.

Clapper's comment has continued to attract criticism nearly a year later — and more than seven months after the first Snowden disclosures showed how wrong he was. When Pres. Obama finally opened up about the ordeal this week, though, he far from sided with the critics who have been calling for Clapper's termination.

“I think that Jim Clapper himself would acknowledge, and has acknowledged, that he should have been more careful about how he responded,” Obama told CNN in an interview that aired Friday. “His concern was that he had a classified program that he couldn’t talk about, and he was in an open hearing in which he was asked, he was prompted to disclose a program, and so he felt he was caught between a rock and a hard place.”

“As I said in the speech that I gave a couple of weeks ago, what’s clear is that we are going to have to do a better job of being transparent about what we do, to have a robust public debate about what we do,” Obama added. “But it’s going to take some time. It’s going to take some work, partly because the technology has just moved so quickly that the discussions that need to be had didn’t happen fast enough, didn’t happen on the front end.”

Obama wasn't the only one to endorse DNI Clapper this week, either. Former United Nations ambassador John Bolton appeared on Fox News late Thursday, and hailed the intelligence director for comments he made this week before Congress.

Clapper was again on the stand earlier this week when he spoke of the current terror threats facing the US, and said those dangers had become more “disperse” than ever as extremists groups grow in size and scope.

"This is a stunning statement by James Clapper. You can't underline it enough,” Bolton responded.

That isn't to say that the entirety of Washington's elite is ready to shower Clapper with applause. When the spy chief found himself back before the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this week on Wednesday, Sen. Wyden hardly shied away from referencing last year's now infamous gaffe. While grilling Clapper once again about the American intelligence community, Wyden said, “I don’t think this culture of misinformation is going to be easily fixed.”

Wyden's latest showdown with Clapper came just two days after Pres. Obama was sent a letter from Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is and five other members of Congress asking for him to take action against the DNI for his "clearly erroneous" remark.

“The continued role of James Clapper as director of national intelligence is incompatible with the goal of restoring trust in our security programs and ensuring the highest level of transparency,” they wrote.

http://rt.com/usa/obama-dni-clapper-lie-485/

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Yeah! obama is right! Next time clapper, lie better...
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You mean the military that bombs civilians, rapes/assaults its female members, discriminates against homosexuals, loses extremely expensive military hardware and is losing to a bunch of men wearing turbans who are using weapons that still have wood as the crafting material for its stock?

That U.S military?

Oh, I forgot the NSA is the military ... hmmm, send in the People's militia?
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You mean the military that bombs civilians, rapes/assaults its female members, discriminates against homosexuals, loses extremely expensive military hardware and is losing to a bunch of men wearing turbans who are using weapons that still have wood as the crafting material for its stock?

That U.S military?
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Why hasn't Clapper been charged or arrested yet?

Congress is just as corrupt as these guys, if Congress did anything the intelligence agencies and contractors would turn on them and vice versa so they work together out of convenience and try to cover their tracks, except of course everybody knows better now and doesn't believe a word any of them say.

Sounds like time to send in the Military Smiley
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And what should this link show me?

Jon Stewart "The daily Show" about CNN...
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Why hasn't Clapper been charged or arrested yet?

Congress is just as corrupt as these guys, if Congress did anything the intelligence agencies and contractors would turn on them and vice versa so they work together out of convenience and try to cover their tracks, except of course everybody knows better now and doesn't believe a word any of them say.
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Director of National Intelligence James Clapper isn't the most popular guy in Washington these days. Support for reforming bulk surveillance continues to grow. More lawmakers are becoming convinced of the point of view of US Senator Ron Wyden: that Clapper lied to Congress when he denied that "any type of data at all" was being collected "on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans." On Monday, Rep. Darrel Issa (R-CA) and five other lawmakers sent a letter to President Obama saying Clapper should be fired.

It's unlikely that Clapper's comments today at a hearing of the US Senate Intelligence Committee will quiet things down at all. Clapper reiterated his position that the leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden are continuing to cause "profound damage" to the US security.

"Snowden claims that he’s won and that his mission is accomplished," said Clapper, according to a transcript of today's hearing published by The Washington Post. "If that is so, I call on him and his accomplices to facilitate the return of the remaining stolen documents that have not yet been exposed, to prevent even more damage to US security... The nation is less safe and its people less secure."

The use of the phrase "accomplices" caused several journalists to question who, exactly, Clapper was referring to. "I guess he means us?" tweeted Spencer Ackerman, national security editor at The Guardian.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/clapper-snowden-and-media-accomplices-should-return-our-documents/



Isn't lying to congress perjury?

Why hasn't Clapper been charged or arrested yet?

These guys are operating in criminal territory, and have been for a long time I believe, all they do each time they get caught is to hoodwink Congress into passing new laws that cover up their previous crimes.
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Director of National Intelligence James Clapper isn't the most popular guy in Washington these days. Support for reforming bulk surveillance continues to grow. More lawmakers are becoming convinced of the point of view of US Senator Ron Wyden: that Clapper lied to Congress when he denied that "any type of data at all" was being collected "on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans." On Monday, Rep. Darrel Issa (R-CA) and five other lawmakers sent a letter to President Obama saying Clapper should be fired.

It's unlikely that Clapper's comments today at a hearing of the US Senate Intelligence Committee will quiet things down at all. Clapper reiterated his position that the leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden are continuing to cause "profound damage" to the US security.

"Snowden claims that he’s won and that his mission is accomplished," said Clapper, according to a transcript of today's hearing published by The Washington Post. "If that is so, I call on him and his accomplices to facilitate the return of the remaining stolen documents that have not yet been exposed, to prevent even more damage to US security... The nation is less safe and its people less secure."

The use of the phrase "accomplices" caused several journalists to question who, exactly, Clapper was referring to. "I guess he means us?" tweeted Spencer Ackerman, national security editor at The Guardian.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/clapper-snowden-and-media-accomplices-should-return-our-documents/

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for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden if he took responsibility for leaking classified documents that exposed the agency’s vast surveillance operations.

... yeah, just as soon as NSA is going to take responsibility and consequences for violating and systematically undermining the Fourth Amendment and Rule Of Law ...
Laws are irrelevant.
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for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden if he took responsibility for leaking classified documents that exposed the agency’s vast surveillance operations.

... yeah, just as soon as NSA is going to take responsibility and consequences for violating and systematically undermining the Fourth Amendment and Rule Of Law ...
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And what should this link show me?
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I honestly respect FOX news a lot more than CNN.
They are all western propaganda machines so where's the difference?

They are different than the Asian, Persian, Arab, Russian, etc... propaganda machines.
I meant the difference between fox and cnn.

https://showyou.com/v/h-qrZTvJB52DR5GYJu/wrongnado-cnn
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I honestly respect FOX news a lot more than CNN.
They are all western propaganda machines so where's the difference?

They are different than the Asian, Persian, Arab, Russian, etc... propaganda machines.
I meant the difference between fox and cnn.
legendary
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I honestly respect FOX news a lot more than CNN.
They are all western propaganda machines so where's the difference?

They are different than the Asian, Persian, Arab, Russian, etc... propaganda machines.
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I honestly respect FOX news a lot more than CNN.
They are all western propaganda machines so where's the difference?
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CAUTION: Angry Man with Attitude.
Rusha just extended his asylum contract  Grin
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US Attorney General Eric Holder indicated on Thursday that Washington would negotiate with lawyers for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden if he took responsibility for leaking classified documents that exposed the agency’s vast surveillance operations.

Holder said that should Snowden return to the US from Russia - where he has received temporary asylum - and enter a plea deal for disclosing sensitive information, the US Department of Justice “would engage in conversation.” Yet amnesty for Snowden, no matter his pure intentions of transparency, “would be going too far,” Holder said during an interview with MSNBC.

The Attorney General echoed those sentiments during a public event Thursday at the University of Virginia.

“We've always indicated that the notion of clemency isn't something that we were willing to consider. Instead, were he coming back to the US to enter a plea, we would engage with his lawyers,” he said.

When asked by MSNBC if Snowden, 30, should be considered a whistleblower, Holder said, "I prefer the term defendant. That's the most apt title."

http://rt.com/usa/snowden-holder-negotiations-clemency-111/
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I occasionally watch CNN to see a different standpoint on specific topics but generally only watch FOX.
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I honestly respect FOX news a lot more than CNN.

Obviously the majority in the US do. Even fox news haters watch fox news, based on the numbers. CNN International was not bad until I heard everything middle Eastern related had to get approval from Amanpour first...
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