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Quote from: jostorres on August 27, 2021, 02:11:48 PM

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

This is so true man and I fully agree. FJ has been here for years and I have the utmost respect for them but all this news around KYC does not feel good at all.

I hate bet365 for the same reason. They allow the players to deposit before verification but once you want to withdraw, they need all those documents from you. This only means that if a player is losing money, no one has any problems but once he starts winning, trouble him out such that he forfeits his funds.

I like casinos like btb88 (never played there so don't know if they are legit) because they ask KYC before you deposit or make any bets.

ALL casinos are getting into this KYC situation and that is a bit of a sad thing if you ask me. I mean think about it, we used to have such a great gambling without telling anyone who we are, why would we need to keep doing that right now?

This isn't really something that makes sense if you ask me, it should be KYCless everywhere we go, I do not think that we would ever consider them shady if they didn't have KYC, they could definitely have license from curacao or something which is literally nothing to really go with, you could still be shady and be licensed from curacao, and still have no KYC as well. I rather have these places have zero license, zero registry, zero accountability and still gamble more than any other place that has KYC.

This is why I think it is quite good to convince all these places to remove KYC requirement. I mean it is not just here, everywhere is doing this.

@jostorres when I saw the majestic competition I was really excited, but then I opened the terms and realised that KYC was mandatory if you won and that was a turnoff. Also do you’ll feel that FJ should exempt KYC up to certain amounts eg 0.10 btc, because this could boost small gamblers confidence in wagering there.

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Quote from: Godzilliy on August 26, 2021, 04:37:37 PM

Will you announce the winner's nickname in the final of the draw? or the number of the winning ticket?
I don’t understand how the randomizer will work if I don’t know the numbers of these tickets? (I'm talking about the fairness of the draw)

I havent played here and I have no ticket at all so I do not know about the available information of the earned tickets. Cant you find any tabs or something to click there that might be contain of your ticket numbers? This is a must information for lottery game so I do not think FJ miss this basic thing. Maybe you can ask live support, there must be a database about the lottery tickets.

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Quote from: tygeade on August 25, 2021, 01:39:24 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

This is so true man and I fully agree. FJ has been here for years and I have the utmost respect for them but all this news around KYC does not feel good at all.

I hate bet365 for the same reason. They allow the players to deposit before verification but once you want to withdraw, they need all those documents from you. This only means that if a player is losing money, no one has any problems but once he starts winning, trouble him out such that he forfeits his funds.

I like casinos like btb88 (never played there so don't know if they are legit) because they ask KYC before you deposit or make any bets.

ALL casinos are getting into this KYC situation and that is a bit of a sad thing if you ask me. I mean think about it, we used to have such a great gambling without telling anyone who we are, why would we need to keep doing that right now?

This isn't really something that makes sense if you ask me, it should be KYCless everywhere we go, I do not think that we would ever consider them shady if they didn't have KYC, they could definitely have license from curacao or something which is literally nothing to really go with, you could still be shady and be licensed from curacao, and still have no KYC as well. I rather have these places have zero license, zero registry, zero accountability and still gamble more than any other place that has KYC.

This is why I think it is quite good to convince all these places to remove KYC requirement. I mean it is not just here, everywhere is doing this.

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Quote from: Godzilliy on August 26, 2021, 04:37:37 PM

1. The raffle will take place during the live stream and one lucky player will be selected through Google Randomizer to win the Tesla Model 3. (More tickets you have more chance you get)

Fortunejack please help me understand how this will work?

Now I have 40 tickets on my account. These tickets do not have any numbers !!!
Simply written - "you have 40 tickets"
How will I have a better chance than a person with 1 ticket?

Will you announce the winner's nickname in the final of the draw? or the number of the winning ticket?
I don’t understand how the randomizer will work if I don’t know the numbers of these tickets? (I'm talking about the fairness of the draw)

Every ticket should have an unique Identity number for sure and its better if the numbers are visible to the users then they won't have any doubt about the fairness and wait for FJ withdrawal regarding this.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 26, 2021, 05:38:42 AM

Truth is truth, fortunejack sometimes really have some problems but it's a legit casino anyway. There even was one case when FortuneJack listened to the community to make the final decision. Overall, they always listen to the community and try to keep their image high there.

They are one of biggest casinos and their reputation has years in history, at good recognition from community.

Futhermore like you said, they do care about their community on this forum. Open minded to listen to community opinion. Long time ago, when Bitcoin transaction fee was expensive, the community asked and they decided to not only reduce transaction fee for withdrawals but also waive the fee. Very kind response from them.

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As I see, FortuneJack was the casino that was rarely asking for KYC but the situation has changed significantly.
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I don't know but as I see, exchanges and casinos will be forced to do KYC and AML by governments. Binance is a big example about it. Exchanges and casinos have to harmonize both customers and governments and make sure their companies can be allowed to operate, with profit and no legal problems.

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1. The raffle will take place during the live stream and one lucky player will be selected through Google Randomizer to win the Tesla Model 3. (More tickets you have more chance you get)

Fortunejack please help me understand how this will work?

Now I have 40 tickets on my account. These tickets do not have any numbers !!!
Simply written - "you have 40 tickets"
How will I have a better chance than a person with 1 ticket?

Will you announce the winner's nickname in the final of the draw? or the number of the winning ticket?
I don’t understand how the randomizer will work if I don’t know the numbers of these tickets? (I'm talking about the fairness of the draw)

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Quote from: shield132 on August 26, 2021, 05:38:42 AM

Truth is truth, fortunejack sometimes really have some problems but it's a legit casino anyway. There even was one case when FortuneJack listened to the community to make the final decision. Overall, they always listen to the community and try to keep their image high there.

As I see, FortuneJack was the casino that was rarely asking for KYC but the situation has changed significantly. I can't swear about the reason behind this but have one suspect:
FortuneJack is a Georgian startup. They operate in Tbilisi, Georgia and some really good people work there that I personally know. Some months ago, Government pushed people to do KYC verification on paying bills, filling casino wallet, on currency exchange, etc. On every financial process, doesn't matter how simple it is, you need to verify yourself. Maybe that's the reason behind FJ's many recent KYCs.

Each casino does have their moments of having some problems and experience that doesn't seem good for the experience of their casino. But after that being addressed, they're doing better and giving a solution as soon as they can.

Quote from: babygun on August 25, 2021, 05:11:52 AM

I get the impression that more and more crypto casinos are now also demanding KYC (before withdrawal).

It is interesting to see those reviews why some casinos have been acting like that. What shield has said is likely the reason for most of those sudden compliance.

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Quote from: babygun on August 24, 2021, 08:23:33 AM

Quote from: GamblingBro on August 23, 2021, 12:16:05 PM

Have you seen the review itself? I believe it has all the answers to your questions.
I am not against the KYC procedure, but this one should not be used to slow down the withdrawal. It takes 5 minutes for the support agent to receive and check the documents.

While I can agree on some points with you in the review, I think the overall rating is too slow. KYC for your first withdrawal is not the standard; it depends on the amount you want to withdraw (yours was already quite large). I also needed to pass KYC when I demanded a withdrawal but this was related to the fact that all my winnings came from freebets. KYC procedure itself on the site is easy and goes quite fast.

They offer also more promotions than you have listed: Majestic 7 is now live (free for everyone) and they offered also a free promotion for EURO 2020.

Minimum withdrawal however is indeed way too high and this should be lowered.

Truth is truth, fortunejack sometimes really have some problems but it's a legit casino anyway. There even was one case when FortuneJack listened to the community to make the final decision. Overall, they always listen to the community and try to keep their image high there.

As I see, FortuneJack was the casino that was rarely asking for KYC but the situation has changed significantly. I can't swear about the reason behind this but have one suspect:
FortuneJack is a Georgian startup. They operate in Tbilisi, Georgia and some really good people work there that I personally know. Some months ago, Government pushed people to do KYC verification on paying bills, filling casino wallet, on currency exchange, etc. On every financial process, doesn't matter how simple it is, you need to verify yourself. Maybe that's the reason behind FJ's many recent KYCs.

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Quote from: slaman29 on August 23, 2021, 05:09:03 AM

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So we look to early and end season where energy levels are high (to score) or low (to make mistakes).

I believe it is definitely going to be a long season and there will definitely be a lot of 0-0 that's true, BUT the reason why I said this was the fact that someone won from the very first week, and that caused a lot of people to believe that it is quite simple. Not only the fact that 7/7 is hard, like even if there were goals in every match, you need to know 7 of the scorers in all those 7 matches and that is as incredibly difficult as it gets.

However, on top of that we are talking about all those games where there are zero zero results and own goals as well like you said, so that means that we have double the trouble, not only 7 scorers, but also the fact that some weeks are cancelled already is the biggest trouble. In any case, it is free entry, so even if it goes like that, who cares what is going on and just enjoy it, not like we will ever lose money here.

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Quote from: coupable on August 24, 2021, 02:54:11 PM

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

Eventually, all services in crypto will be KYC'd, it's simply inescapable. But they won't have to KYC everyone, just whenever the regulations require them to, it's as simple as that. If your turn comes up, just reach out and see what can be done. All these things are also at the influence at considerations and loyalty, and I know as bitcointalk users there are a lot of considerations. Can't complain in the end. Just the way the world is, and we got to deal with it.

Like major exchanges, gambling websites are required to report your information to the IRC whenever asked. This is why people from US has mandatory KYC policy.
The fact that we have to deal with is that gambling apps are all centralized entities and have to deal with laws and legislations of the countries from where accept users .
I also dislike the enforcement of KYC just when withdraw, but this should be mentioned in the TOS of the site which none read before join. In this case no one to blame .

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Quote from: coupable on August 24, 2021, 02:54:11 PM

Quote from: slaman29 on August 24, 2021, 07:05:23 AM

Can't complain in the end. Just the way the world is, and we got to deal with it.

Like major exchanges, gambling websites are required to report your information to the IRC whenever asked. This is why people from US has mandatory KYC policy.
The fact that we have to deal with is that gambling apps are all centralized entities and have to deal with laws and legislations of the countries from where accept users .
I also dislike the enforcement of KYC just when withdraw, but this should be mentioned in the TOS of the site which none read before join. In this case no one to blame .

And if you dislike this completely, then you have to go for decentralized casinos. But just like DEX vs CEX, a problem is liquidity (or in the case of casino, a big enough bankroll to take your max bets and max payout profits).

The only other option is to build reputation and trust, like in communities here on bitcointalk as I mentioned. Trust goes both ways not just from us to a casino but the other way round too:)

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Quote from: tygeade on August 25, 2021, 01:39:24 AM

This is so true man and I fully agree. FJ has been here for years and I have the utmost respect for them but all this news around KYC does not feel good at all.

I hate bet365 for the same reason. They allow the players to deposit before verification but once you want to withdraw, they need all those documents from you. This only means that if a player is losing money, no one has any problems but once he starts winning, trouble him out such that he forfeits his funds.

I like casinos like btb88 (never played there so don't know if they are legit) because they ask KYC before you deposit or make any bets.

You can't really compare bet365 to crypto casinos as they are a fiat casino only. Normally, you need to pass full KYC when you signup at such a casinos, but seems that bet365 is an exception.

I get the impression that more and more crypto casinos are now also demanding KYC (before withdrawal).

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

This is so true man and I fully agree. FJ has been here for years and I have the utmost respect for them but all this news around KYC does not feel good at all.

I hate bet365 for the same reason. They allow the players to deposit before verification but once you want to withdraw, they need all those documents from you. This only means that if a player is losing money, no one has any problems but once he starts winning, trouble him out such that he forfeits his funds.

I like casinos like btb88 (never played there so don't know if they are legit) because they ask KYC before you deposit or make any bets.

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Quote from: slaman29 on August 24, 2021, 07:05:23 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

Eventually, all services in crypto will be KYC'd, it's simply inescapable. But they won't have to KYC everyone, just whenever the regulations require them to, it's as simple as that. If your turn comes up, just reach out and see what can be done. All these things are also at the influence at considerations and loyalty, and I know as bitcointalk users there are a lot of considerations. Can't complain in the end. Just the way the world is, and we got to deal with it.

Like major exchanges, gambling websites are required to report your information to the IRC whenever asked. This is why people from US has mandatory KYC policy.
The fact that we have to deal with is that gambling apps are all centralized entities and have to deal with laws and legislations of the countries from where accept users .
I also dislike the enforcement of KYC just when withdraw, but this should be mentioned in the TOS of the site which none read before join. In this case no one to blame .

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Quote from: GamblingBro on August 23, 2021, 12:16:05 PM

Have you seen the review itself? I believe it has all the answers to your questions.
I am not against the KYC procedure, but this one should not be used to slow down the withdrawal. It takes 5 minutes for the support agent to receive and check the documents.

While I can agree on some points with you in the review, I think the overall rating is too slow. KYC for your first withdrawal is not the standard; it depends on the amount you want to withdraw (yours was already quite large). I also needed to pass KYC when I demanded a withdrawal but this was related to the fact that all my winnings came from freebets. KYC procedure itself on the site is easy and goes quite fast.

Some casinos are also having announcements in regards to withdrawal limits that might ask KYC to bigger amounts. FJ is also adopting that way for some reason and I think there is nothing wrong with that it is a sense that we are already aware of the possible KYC submission once we surpass the limit.
But the point why GamblingBro got hated is the long delays of its withdrawal which was not supposed to happen. Well, I think 5mins is not long enough for me. Coz if we are aware of the KYC, maybe we could make it before we do the withdrawals not just because it was been asked but as expected it really happens.

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Check out my honest FortuneJack review published today. This casino has received a 2.3 out of 5 rating from me.

Fortune Jack is one of biggest casino and you ranked it only 2.3 point. Are you so serious with your assessment on Fortune Jack?

I see your review that writes about misleading terms, what are those misleading terms?

First withdrawal can be approved manually on casino, to avoid money laundering. KYC is a trend in crypto, on exchanges and casinos and I don't feel bad with KYC rules on Fortune Jack.

Have you seen the review itself? I believe it has all the answers to your questions.
I am not against the KYC procedure, but this one should not be used to slow down the withdrawal. It takes 5 minutes for the support agent to receive and check the documents.

I never seen any platform verifies our KYC documents in the next few minutes and approved it, some of the exchanges even take weeks to complete the KYC procedure so its not fair to ask the gambling sites to do the same thing in the next 5 minutes itself.

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Quote from: GamblingBro on August 23, 2021, 12:16:05 PM

Have you seen the review itself? I believe it has all the answers to your questions.
I am not against the KYC procedure, but this one should not be used to slow down the withdrawal. It takes 5 minutes for the support agent to receive and check the documents.

While I can agree on some points with you in the review, I think the overall rating is too slow. KYC for your first withdrawal is not the standard; it depends on the amount you want to withdraw (yours was already quite large). I also needed to pass KYC when I demanded a withdrawal but this was related to the fact that all my winnings came from freebets. KYC procedure itself on the site is easy and goes quite fast.

They offer also more promotions than you have listed: Majestic 7 is now live (free for everyone) and they offered also a free promotion for EURO 2020.

Minimum withdrawal however is indeed way too high and this should be lowered.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

Eventually, all services in crypto will be KYC'd, it's simply inescapable. But they won't have to KYC everyone, just whenever the regulations require them to, it's as simple as that. If your turn comes up, just reach out and see what can be done. All these things are also at the influence at considerations and loyalty, and I know as bitcointalk users there are a lot of considerations. Can't complain in the end. Just the way the world is, and we got to deal with it.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2021, 06:24:14 PM

Yea, FJ is a "KYC casino," it's pretty obvious with the type of bonus/promotion they offered. Majestic 7, Bonus appetit, etc., come at a cost. I don't have a problem with this type of casino, but I don't really like when the KYC procedure is forced when withdrawal. It should be done before deposit, so if KYC failed, users cannot deposit. This is to prevent problem arises from failed/pending withdrawal.

Mate you have very good point if any site want to implement KYC then surely they want to do this before deposit, because if someone has issue then surely he tries to clear this or search for new site but doing this all just at the time of withdrawal is creating some serious issues for both parties specially for players as he wants to clear his funds but on other side many rules and requirements create hassle.

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