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yeah, just forgot about that,...
And as I have talked to them, offers did expired thogh it wasn't included on my email or inbox, besides it's jut my first time seeing those kind of offers on my inbox so I wasn't aware. I'll just stick my nose into it next time.
as for the captcha thing, I forgot to ask about it, I'll just make an update here again, so far it's running smoothly on chrome, I guess I should comeback usong it for now. 😅

This is very strange because first time looking this all right now your best bet is online support because they are very active and solve all problems very quickly so contact them right now give them all details hopefully this will set in few minutes.

anyone having the same trouble getting in to the site?



This captcha, after I answer, it keeps.coming back and doesn't allow me to go to the webpage, and yeah, as for the browser I'm using edge... though I tried it on chrome and voila...

other concern is this...



as I have checked my account there are.no Balance and no Spins... it was ony a week since I received it on my inbox...

I confirm that I received the reward. Also the issue on the site is fixed which I already confirmed yesterday. Everything is green. You guys can go and roll dice on FJ without hesitation.

This is the way how every casino should be working, either this is too good or it is too good to be true. Fortunejack got a complaint and a feedback about a situation on their website, they saw it and fixed it and paid the guy who reported it as a thanks-giving, what the hell can you do better?

This is literally the way to go and beyond, they have done an incredible job. I mean they didn't give us any reason not to believe them, but the simple check would be to see if @webtricks actually got the money and to see if it is really fixed which should be easy to check.

Fortunejack is really not just some crypto startup type thing, it is actually a business with business people in it, they are really professional and they do everything they suppose to do perfectly.

It is good to know that everything about that has been fixed immediately with Provably fairness. The former or novice gambler should not have to worry about playing again here at FJ. This casino really proves that they have a proud reputation and can be trusted. We just thank @webtricks for taking his time and knowing how to fix this issue. Congrats and you really deserve the bounty reward.

^  Thanks to people like you, who actually know what their talking about to make constructive criticisms on how to make the site better..   And in a way, make the crypto gambling scene a little better in the process. 

There should be more people like you in this space.

I just checked the updated version of 'Dice' game and it's perfect. Player is given the SHA-256 hash of next server seed before changing the client seed. That's what I asked for and it now assures that FJ cannot change the result after player changed the client seed. A perfect decentralized trust system!

I really appreciate FJ for escalating the issue and solving it within the time frame asked. That's a difference between a reputable casino and others.

Thanks for the reward, looking forward to receive it.

@FortuneJack this is a welcome announcement, and I believe that all the gamblers who wager on your site will be glad that this issue was promptly fixed. Also congratulations to @webtricks as he definitely deserved that bounty, and it’s pertinent to note that FJ was under no pressure to reward him, but yet they did it to show their commitment to the gambling community which once again proves that they’re a safe and a legit site.

Final announcement regarding the new Dice Game:

We would like to thank you for your feedback regarding the concerns of the New Dice game being entirely Provably Fair or not. Specials credits to @webtricks for taking his time to go deep into analysis and putting out thoughts out here for the community. Since the day one of us reporting the issue, our technical department has been in touch with the board members of the Orbital Gaming (official provider of the game) to find out if there was any type of bug, that the team has missed while implementing the new version of the game onto the FJ’s platform.

Despite the fact of us not taking any advantage of possibly manipulating the results. We as a trusted casino among reputable members of the crypto gambling were obliged to take the thoughts of the users who prefer playing here at FortuneJack into consideration. To meet the current standards of the Provably Fair system (that’s been ever-changing since it’s foundation), our team has decided to report concern of @webtricks as a fairness bug.

According to the past bug bounty campaign, hosted during the period of July 1 to July 10, finding the fairness issue had the bounty of 1 BTC. To be thoroughly equal to the past reporters, we had to come up with the reasonable amount to adequately meet the expectations of the user. Correspondingly, he will be given the reward of 0.5 BTC (Bitcoin) for outlining the issue publicly, suggesting the way of us fixing it and being an honest member of the community in general.

As for now, the bug that we’ve been talking about previously is completely fixed and the update itself is already live on FortuneJack’s website. Feel free to give it a check and continue playing a new version of the Dice without having any type of hesitation, whatsoever. For the nonce, we believe that this case is ought to be considered as closed for further development. We’re more than excited to welcome new members of the community to the latest areas of the platform, including the category of Provably Fair games. It’s our duty to keep the technical environment fair and safe to be playing at while our players continue trying their luck on the fresh set of games that team releases.


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Until next time, hope you have a safe day or possibly an evening.

I would call their system "probably fair".
As it was mentioned, results can be manipulated and why did FJ left that bug there? Was it just a mistake or intentionally caused? Probably makes some doubts but at the same time we all know that dice and other provably fair games have house edge and on long term according to math, profit is on casino's side and every bet decreases your chance of win, so, why to lie when mathematically it's guaranteed for you to win? For more wins? Idk, FJ isn't shit casino but at the same time it worth to mention that they had some problems in past and now.

Your assumption is based on trust, therefore it can't be called 'provably', right?


I believe webtricks has already given enough evidence that the current system can be manipulated in favor of FJ. The question here is not whether they are really doing it or not but about the possibility itself.

The idea that skepticism and cynicism is actually required to even come into any investment space, most of all crypto, escapes everybody these days! I totally get the concept of the user being right, and that benefit of doubt must always be given but having been in crypto and gambling, you always, always sense when someone is trying to fool people, and you always get the sense of what's legitimate and what's not.

You are seriously under-estimating the intensity of the issue. I have spent 7 months as a part of the Crypto Casino Development team. We had spent quite a time in studying various simulation techniques which could be used to harness the results in the favor of casino in long run.

As we all know, humans are worst random generators. In long run, they tend to exhibit same pattern. Consider a typical gambler, if he plays Dice game daily, he is surely following a specific strategy. Casino will set a threshold, let say, 50K bets. Over 50K bets, casino only need to gather certain information about player's betting strategy such as how many times does he like to roll above 50 or below 50 (it can be any number depending on player's stategy) in single auto-betting session, how often does he change the pair of seeds. Just studying such details, casino can set a script for a particular player.

If (player ID === N) { show hash of the server seed which when used with player's selected client seed generates result in favor of casino as per player's previous betting strategy with nonce from 0/1 to S in 55%+ cases }

where S = average number of bets player makes in between changing seeds.
If S is a number less than 5000 then even simple GPU laptop can generate such rigged server seed in less than a second as per the manipulated script. Just imagine, this small tweak will increase the house edge to 10+ percent!!

There could be different understandings of provably fair, I get that "provably" makes you understand that you want to see if it was provably fair or not as in prove the fairness, but if they didn't change anything whilst you are playing, it was provably fair we all agree with that.

The only thing you are not sure about with the current situation if they can check the seed they could actually play with the results while you are playing, which you can change your seed and interrupt but let's say you do not, they really have to be on top of every seed and make sure they know if you play one way or another as well. I see this as a very tiny fraction chance, however let's say even that is bothersome, they are working on fixing it as well, not like we can ask for more.

Don't be so quick to believe everything people say. Just a few weeks earlier, there was a sportsbet.io incident where the user in question accusing the casino was actually breaking ToS with multiple accounts, admitting to it. Suppose I decide that I don't want to verify my ID and instead use a service, and then upon being caught I post on the forum, claiming that I am deaf and disabled.

Does that justify the fact that I willingly provided fraudulent details? Remember: you have no assurance that the claims are valid. Have a little skepticism, will you? This is the crypto space.

Thanks for taking action 
I hope it is actually fixed sooner than later. It shouldn't be too difficult to do, just copy the very good bustabit implementation that many other sites have used for that style of game.

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@DarkStar_

Thanks for mentioning the unfortunate issue we made while updating the old layout of the FJ website.

As for now, Adrenaline is removed from the Provably Fair category and will not be placed back to the same list unless the provider entirely updates it according to the PV standards.

Once again, sorry for the inconvenience - we're always open for the suggestions and criticisms of the crypto gambling community, as it's the only place, FortuneJack, as the company plans to build the authority as well trustworthiness. Don't hesitate to continue exploring the ins and outs of the games, providers and the overall platform as a whole, so our team can continue building the products that the audience loves and enjoys playing with.

Good work webtricks and DarkStar_ in bringing up these things. I know FJ are decent people, and believe they don't mean to do all these things, because even for us here in crypto (or myself anyway) it took me a while to understand what provably fair meant. But if we don't remind them, they'll forget. I have seen a few things here not answered and they're not generally so important but PF is a big issue for us. Let's wait and see.

Yesterday I sent a personal message to FJ to inquire if the matter is closed from their end so I can make my final statement and whether they wanna stick to the statement that 'they still consider current Dice probably fair even though they are ready to change the implementation in next update'.

To which I got the reply that they are still looking into the additional insights I provided in post number #8528 and will get back to me on 3rd September. Let's see what reply they come up with.