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Lol, don't look at me saying that about the fight, I will be one of the first one in line to wager for that fight . I just meant as in not the entertainment sort of value that you would see in a match with controversy and so forth. Just to give an example last time Khabib and Mcgregor fight there was a lot of out of ring stuff that happened beforehand and even right after the fight as well so it wasn't really a docile event, I just meant that way. Otherwise it is Khabib and it is for the belt as well so it will definitely have a great quality fight when it comes down to inside the ring event, that will be one of the best fights we see in 2020 for sure.

I will still wager for Khabib tho . Easier money to be made there if you ask me.

You guys are supes awesome! I know you've got the pros there, but just in case you need, Transfermarkt has the best updated rosters that I know of, including for those weird off-season transfers that somehow get approved.

Any of you guys saw the Watford win? I lost a bit of money on Liverpool of course, but with that kind of form, Deeney and co look good to survive the drop and make the most notable Great Escape of the Premier League era.

@FortuneJack thanks for the update I’m looking forward to the updated squad lists too, also did anyone place a bet on Liverpool match last night as I lost my small bet I had placed on them thinking that they were invincible, but I guess I was wrong they’re not invincible anymore.


@darewaller each one thinks differently and even if Khabib is the favourite to win it’ll yet be a good match to match, and we should thank @tokeweed because of whom now there will be some promotions as an incentive to wager on this match.

I don't get why people think Khabib vs Ferguson will be a huge event. I feel (at least personally) it would be just a exhibition level of fight where Khabib will definitely win. This is fighting and we have seen many favorites just get  destroyed as well so who knows maybe Khabib will lose but from where I am standing I will definitely wager in favor of Khabib to get that game unless some major injury gets reported before the fight.

I am even more enticed about the Khabib vs mcgregor potential rematch because that will not only be a great fight but there will be a lot more entertainment available as well and a lot of talking back and forth will happen before the fight.

Thanks for notifying @, we're about to update the list, should be ready for the upcoming matchday.

FJ I know I've asked before and you guys haven't responded, but don't you think you should really be updating Majestic Seven rosters? It's brought up elsewhere too. Love the competition and what you guys are doing is awesome but it kinda feels a bit weird to see people still in the wrong team (Tosun in Palace since January for example). And Minamino not in Liverpool squad (hey who knows)... and Harry Wilson still there haha.

If you want, the community here would be glad to help out!

^  Nice!  Can't wait!    I hope it's something that would involve the rest of the card too.  That Namajunas vs Andrade rematch will def be a good one.

We will be definitely having some sort of promotion for that fight, stay tuned. 

Btw...  Khabib vs Ferguson is on April 18.  FJ!  Any chance we could get some early promotions up in anticipation for that event?  It's a yuuuge event. 

@Betwrong: yep, even the smartest people overlook simple, basic mistakes all the time (or should I say, especially the smartest people?). Meticulous people aren't necessarily highly intelligent either.

Anyway, nice 4/7, too bad you didn't get anything out of it, just 1 more hit and you'd have taken home something nice. I got 3/7 too actually, and same nada to show for it. Still a big miffed about Invincibles, a few unexpected results have taken me out of the game. Let's hope I do much better with 2nd legs. I mean, I got Lyon right, but then City screwed me haha.

Yep, let's move on. After going through all that, I was tempted to say something about how Ross Ulbricht was caught, not because NSA, FBI or whoever were so smart, but mainly because of this post



with his real name in it. It was a terrible mistake, but it happened, and if he'd say in his defence, "Why would I do that, if I were operating the largest in the world illegall site?", it wouldn't look convincing, same way as this


doesn't. ... But, ok, let's move on. The case is closed.

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A couple of days left till the end of MATCHDAY 28(22 February - 29 February).

What are your suggestions for this one, guys?

With the help of discussion here, I managed to make 4 right picks(my personal record) for the previous Matchday:



What about the next one? Can we succeed even better than that?

Right then, back to the betting. Who else here got screwed over by Barca in the Invincibles? Now it's 6 games gone and 0 streak of wins, so I suspect I could actually end the whole series with nothing to see.

Anyone watching the stats should have at least bet for the draw though, so I'm sure a few of you did, right? That's what I get for playing it like a smart ass. Speaking of smartassery... I just realised I backed a French upset tonight =D

So the case is settled... I wish this information was presented right from the get-go and not vague TOS images were posted. The evidence presented is pretty compelling. I personally am pretty satisfied with the call of nullifying the winnings now, as mere IP logs weren't the evidence of it... As for apologizing for posting 'private' data, I don't think you guys have to apologize for it. The guy made a public accusation against you guys and it is only fair you guys publicly defend yourself. Might add something about this in the TOS as well...


Gonna do just that... I feel like this is something which the players should know about and the way I see it there is a huge gap in the market and with the right set of tools can change the gambling industry forever...


Gonna discuss that in my thread, in the gambling discussion board... Gonna leave a link here once its up...


TBH I don't wanna become another Game-Protect... But I'm gonna create a thread to discuss/spread awareness about this.

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I was about to post the above but then @amelik2 replied...


You never did rolling live tennis bets as your account was inactive and the day your buddy got banned, you decided to pop up and start betting in the same behaviour as your mate. Too big of a coincidence, Good luck trying to convince people on that...


We are all humans, we all make errors and you simply made an error by not ensuring that your IP was different when logging in. Also, Logging in on 2 accounts with different IPs isn't a hard thing to do... TBH I don't think you can convince me now that you guys are 2 separate people since you never disputed that the evidence presented by FJ is fake...

1. We already went over why the accounts were created the same day. Obviously we know each other and were told about the site at the same time. I never accepted a bonus or free play and clearly bet limits were not an issue so what would the benefit be of having two accounts? As I've stated multiple times my account from day one was registered to my name and phone number. You verified 'PatDugan' confirming their info is different then what mine was registered with. Not once have you ever given me the chance to confirm my identity although I did that for you when I registered with my name!

2. 'Patdugans' bets and being sharp are irrelevant to anything regarding this situation.

3. On Feb 11th 'PatDugan' briefly mentioned to me that FJ has good in-game tennis options and I should check it out. Hence my deposit on 2/11. My deposit came from an account verified on another site which you still have not given me the chance to provide proof.

4. We are co-workers hence the same work wifi IP. You have yet to look into the IP's both players have logged in from via the weekends or after 5PM. You will clearly see we are both going home and logging in from our houses in different towns or separate cell phone 4G IP addresses likely often being logged in at the same time. Still waiting for you to explain how we were logged in 18 minutes apart in different cities if we are the same person!?

5. Because I do rolling live tennis bets just like 'PatDugan' you ASSUME we are the same player? You apparently cut off 'PatDugan' on 2/11 but post wagers from me on 2/18? You allowed me to place wagers for a week on a flagged account...were you hoping I would lose everything and you would take the 2k deposit and never raise a red flag?

6. Your terms and conditions do not apply as we are 2 separate users who offered to verify this.

7. We are 2 people with 2 separate accounts. This is no way a violation of your TOC.

Based on all that you posted you continue to allow 'PatDugan' to play on your site? So the player that wins 50k you refuse to pay and close their account but allow the other player to continue despite apparently breaking the rules of your 'TOC'?

If I really wanted to create multiple accounts and beat around the bush don't you think I would make sure not to use the same IP as someone else that I know is a player there? We are on multiple other books who have not once ever brought up a concern. Only after winning 50k does it become a problem...

Both users created the account on the same day. One account was active until it got limited. Once it got limited the 2nd account woke up and continued a similar betting pattern (betting on low-level Challenger matches and other tennis matches). Doesn't this sound like too big of a coincidence? Two co-workers registering accounts and both are betting on the same tennis tournaments. 

I don't think KYC matter in this situation. The user can simply instruct his cousin, neighbor, random person to go through the KYC process

Having gone thru the entire thread I have come to the conclusion that there is indeed strong connection between the two accounts and hence FJ is very much within the margin of error in this case.

Too many coincidences IMO to be ignored, but it wud hv been better had u clarified it in such a manner prior.

The best way for people to take you seriously is to payback the loan you took out in 2015  .

FJ settled this case quite obviously , though at first the same IP reason given by them , was a bit lets say unsure to classify this case as multiple accounts cheating ,  their latest update regarding the betting patterns , betting activity of the 2nd account straight after the 1st one was limited etc made it pretty clear to "rule this case " in FJ's favour.

Again, I highly advise you to educate yourself on running a business or ask successful business owners about it. You are making statements that are completely backwards. Economically, anything other than reviewing when necessary is a mistake unless regulation requires otherwise.

You are right, I was wrong. I am glad I put a question mark there as I was not fully sure/misread that quickly.

What are you blabbing on about? You are obligated to run a business this way, especially if you are a public limited company (not the case here). You have a duty to investors to make profit, not a duty to satisfy customers (not that this isn't a requirement for a successful business). Every single exchange will make it a nightmare for you when you try to withdraw, and not a single one will ask you anything when you deposit (maybe a couple basic KYC). Are you stating all these exchanges are unethical? If so, I do not see you going after them - therefore no case.

The number of false positives is very minuscule and can be trivially resolved if the only factor is the same IP. People who bring forth these claims usually have triggered several other risk-factors and many gullible members fall for their cases.

You are free to play somewhere else, and leave this thread if it is of no interest to you.

The best way to prevent this is to not play on FJ!

From the investigation disclosure of FJ above, if I understand FJ's investigation and judgement approaches, what you said is not right.

You don't have to worry about any second user who play on your same IP address because there are many things FJ will consider before going to final judgement on multi accounting.

- IP addresses: both ones used for account creations and log-ins.
- Betting behaviours: are the same or different.
- Relations between log-in periods of suspected accounts.
- Maybe more.

I believe you and others will be safe if you create your account at home, then go to public Wifi to bet. There are other FJ's users bet on the public wifi but if they don't find any prove of same betting behaviours, you will be safe.

FJ investigate through some grouped IPs, not only one.

Of course, it's still a bad idea to play at public wifi to prevent any suspection.