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Topic: fortunejack.com POSSIBLE EXIT SCAM - page 6. (Read 4564 times)

legendary
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March 02, 2017, 01:06:26 PM
#30
I think we should wait before reaching to any conclusion.FortuneJack surely has some words to say about this issue.
Depends how "sooner" they reply or care about their members freaking out about the deposits.And they don't! Otherwise they would have replied a lot earlier.I hope their signature spammers send the message out to their owner.

Why'll you scam if you can make huge money by only maintaining your sites?
Maintaining a business is harder than starting a business,rookie.Plus,who doesn't like free money?

FJ is currently holding some big amount of progressive jackpot amount+users account balance.lets hope for good.
Let's hope that they don't give you'll a big surprise.Only good thing coming out of that is reduction of signature spam in the gambling section. Tongue
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
#29
I think we should wait before reaching to any conclusion.FortuneJack surely has some words to say about this issue.
Why'll you scam if you can make huge money by only maintaining your sites?
FJ is currently holding some big amount of progressive jackpot amount+users account balance.lets hope for good.
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 12:14:04 PM
#28
@playerbtc thanks for that live chat feed. Seriously, these excuses are getting ridiculous. They raised withdrawal limit to 'speed up transaction process"?
What kind of dump pretext is that? I know FJ has always free withdrawal i.e you didn't have to pay transaction fee.
If they were losing money because of that, then they should simply introduce small transaction fee - I would be fine even with 40k satoshi.


I agree with your point i was once playing poker on that site and that time withdraw problem was not their but after their poker room is closed i did not checked back but today what i am seeing that they have started to do scam users by choosing withdraw limit as 0.1. In my point when they are making withdraw limit as 0.1 btc then they should also add deposit limit as 0.1btc so that user should not get scammed due to low btc deposit and when withdraw they should not get feel of getting scammed.

And your point of keeping transaction fees if they are in loss due to free withdraw transaction is ok too keep 40k satoshi this way they can also cover their withdraw fees and keep the site clean.

Yeah, I got off from their live chat and told them that this was stupid and they should bring back the minimum to 1mbtc for to retain the status quo, but seems that they are set on implementing this measure. I also told them to have their community manager, Irene I believe here name was, to make a public announcement about this and to appease the users here.
The beans is spilled already and the people are wiser, so even they return the minimum withdrawal to 1 mBtc, trust is already out of the window and the fire on the mountain as yet has not been put out. The way I see it, the new minimum withdrawal is just a tool to trap as much money as possible in their coffers so their loot would be grand, otherwise minimum deposit should have been raised to 0.1 Btc too if their concern was genuine. Run with your BTC guys!
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 12:05:54 PM
#27
A decision to implement a mininum withdrawal of 0.1 BTC to speed up the withdrawal process is just unacceptable .They could have given the option to the players whether they need faster withdrawal or batch type withdrawal like we see in Yolo.Changing the rules when the price is really high cannot justify their decision what so ever.Either they have a problem with the bank roll to pay out winners and that is the only possible think that comes to my mind and with a threshold of 0.1 people would gamble more and end up busting so that they do not need to pay them. Cheesy

This.

I guess a majority of players only deposit and play with small amounts, and for sure rarely equal or over 0.1BTC
This way, they do not need to pay them, and they can do it again. (Lower minimum witdhraw limit, get things back in order, and try something else.)

FortuneJack can see how their players accounts look like overall and figured 0.1 would do it.
They know they're getting a big share of that money on accounts under 0.1

Unfortunately when BTC price is close to ATH, we may witness some fails. (where is the BTC karpeles..?)
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
#26
Fortunejack is running for a very long time and they have a good customer base and spending money for advertisement and a minimum withdrawal amount of 0.1 BTC is a huge amount when you consider the price of bitcoin at a all time high.There might be some maintainance going on and only their respresentative can give a good response regarding that.
Do you think so? They said it will speed up the withdraw process. isn't a bullshit explanation? it means you'll never get your money withdraw from
If you have money inside fortunejack then you need to act immediately before they eat your BTC.
A decision to implement a mininum withdrawal of 0.1 BTC to speed up the withdrawal process is just unacceptable .They could have given the option to the players whether they need faster withdrawal or batch type withdrawal like we see in Yolo.Changing the rules when the price is really high cannot justify their decision what so ever.Either they have a problem with the bank roll to pay out winners and that is the only possible think that comes to my mind and with a threshold of 0.1 people would gamble more and end up busting so that they do not need to pay them. Cheesy
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 11:29:11 AM
#25
@playerbtc thanks for that live chat feed. Seriously, these excuses are getting ridiculous. They raised withdrawal limit to 'speed up transaction process"?
What kind of dump pretext is that? I know FJ has always free withdrawal i.e you didn't have to pay transaction fee.
If they were losing money because of that, then they should simply introduce small transaction fee - I would be fine even with 40k satoshi.


I agree with your point i was once playing poker on that site and that time withdraw problem was not their but after their poker room is closed i did not checked back but today what i am seeing that they have started to do scam users by choosing withdraw limit as 0.1. In my point when they are making withdraw limit as 0.1 btc then they should also add deposit limit as 0.1btc so that user should not get scammed due to low btc deposit and when withdraw they should not get feel of getting scammed.

And your point of keeping transaction fees if they are in loss due to free withdraw transaction is ok too keep 40k satoshi this way they can also cover their withdraw fees and keep the site clean.

Yeah, I got off from their live chat and told them that this was stupid and they should bring back the minimum to 1mbtc for to retain the status quo, but seems that they are set on implementing this measure. I also told them to have their community manager, Irene I believe here name was, to make a public announcement about this and to appease the users here.
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 10:13:43 AM
#24
@playerbtc thanks for that live chat feed. Seriously, these excuses are getting ridiculous. They raised withdrawal limit to 'speed up transaction process"?
What kind of dump pretext is that? I know FJ has always free withdrawal i.e you didn't have to pay transaction fee.
If they were losing money because of that, then they should simply introduce small transaction fee - I would be fine even with 40k satoshi.


I agree with your point i was once playing poker on that site and that time withdraw problem was not their but after their poker room is closed i did not checked back but today what i am seeing that they have started to do scam users by choosing withdraw limit as 0.1. In my point when they are making withdraw limit as 0.1 btc then they should also add deposit limit as 0.1btc so that user should not get scammed due to low btc deposit and when withdraw they should not get feel of getting scammed.

And your point of keeping transaction fees if they are in loss due to free withdraw transaction is ok too keep 40k satoshi this way they can also cover their withdraw fees and keep the site clean.
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 09:50:51 AM
#23
@playerbtc thanks for that live chat feed. Seriously, these excuses are getting ridiculous. They raised withdrawal limit to 'speed up transaction process"?
What kind of dump pretext is that? I know FJ has always free withdrawal i.e you didn't have to pay transaction fee.
If they were losing money because of that, then they should simply introduce small transaction fee - I would be fine even with 40k satoshi.
sr. member
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March 02, 2017, 09:23:27 AM
#22
This is confirm that fortunejack will scam everyone...Now the minimum withdraw is set to 0.10 BTC
Now this is disturbing! I checked it myself and you are right, the screenshot is real. That 0.1 BTC withdrawal limit is either a mistake on their part,
or there is really something going on there. 0.1 BTC is more than $120, we have lower withdrawal limits in brick and mortar casinos.
I am gonna ask them directly about this.
THIS IS NOT A MISTAKE!! I REPEAT...

hero member
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March 02, 2017, 09:22:21 AM
#21
Anyway, for withdrawals since the method they use is manual, you might have to wait a few hours to get it. I had a withdrawal that lasted for 3 days, but there was no problem. They still released it. Just contact them. Fortune jack has not had any issues whatsoever previously, and I think they are very reputable.
Just because you are wearing their signature does not mean you should see what's black and chose to call it white. The cryptocurrency industry is synonymous with instant transactions and that must have been the case too with FortuneJack because all the while I had played there, I never experienced delays but if now a request for withdrawal can take up to 3 day to pull through, that is indeed a red flag and  all is certainly not well with the site.

For reasons that have to do with the log of my past losing games showing up every time I log into my account and eating up part of my balance, I haven't been playing at the site for quite a while, but on stopping by this moment, this is what I found:
Quote
WITHDRAW
Please note: Minimum withdrawal amount is 0.1 BTC or its equivalent in other currencies.
Now if that is not a mistake, it must be a good pointer or confirmation that there is fire on the mountain!
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 09:04:49 AM
#20
This is confirm that fortunejack will scam everyone...Now the minimum withdraw is set to 0.10 BTC
Now this is disturbing! I checked it myself and you are right, the screenshot is real. That 0.1 BTC withdrawal limit is either a mistake on their part,
or there is really something going on there. 0.1 BTC is more than $120, we have lower withdrawal limits in brick and mortar casinos.
I am gonna ask them directly about this.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
March 02, 2017, 09:01:48 AM
#19
Fortunejack is running for a very long time and they have a good customer base and spending money for advertisement and a minimum withdrawal amount of 0.1 BTC is a huge amount when you consider the price of bitcoin at a all time high.There might be some maintainance going on and only their respresentative can give a good response regarding that.
Do you think so? They said it will speed up the withdraw process. isn't a bullshit explanation? it means you'll never get your money withdraw from fortunejack. WARNING FORTUNEJACK POSSIBLE SCAM

If you have money inside fortunejack then you need to act immediately before they eat your BTC.
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 08:54:08 AM
#18
Fortunejack is running for a very long time and they have a good customer base and spending money for advertisement and a minimum withdrawal amount of 0.1 BTC is a huge amount when you consider the price of bitcoin at a all time high.There might be some maintainance going on and only their respresentative can give a good response regarding that.
sr. member
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March 02, 2017, 08:47:40 AM
#17
This is confirm that fortunejack will scam everyone...Now the minimum withdraw is set to 0.10 BTC

legendary
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March 02, 2017, 08:43:48 AM
#16
With FortuneJack being kind of big and somewhat established casino, exit scam is unlikely (but not impossible).
In the long run they are earning more money. Grabbing deposits now and pulling off exit scam will be extremely stupid from economic point of view.
It's standard, when casino is delaying withdrawals (due to maintenance, slowness of blockchain or because they simply validate bets/accounts) users are starting to panic.


sr. member
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March 02, 2017, 05:34:45 AM
#15
normally?
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 08:15:15 AM
#15
It is not free of cost.
Blatant liying affiliates are always confirm the reputation of an operator!

You charge money for your services and there is no guarantee that you will uphold your promise of litigating the casino if in case they run.
If you know a guarantee service, use that one, simple.


First you are not a legitimate insurance!
Correct! Game Protect is not an insurance. If you know an insurance offering the same service, use that one, easy.


An insurance pays their clients in case the loss or peril occurs, then you will be subrogated to the rights of your client. Which means you will receive the right to litigate and when you do win you receive what every your clients receive.
Please post the name of this insurance? Fantasy insurances who do not exist, can not help to solve player issues!

If an insurance would exist, the monthly fee would be more like $20, rather than $5.


Alternatively, in case a casino runs, why not everybody who has a claim against them just go together and they pay a lawyer in that jurisdiction to litigate for them.
This would be a good question to the victims. Based on my experience,

1) Players are egoists and not able to see the hole picture

2) Players are brain washed and manipulated by paid affiliates and shills.

Another problem is that an expensive investigation is often required. And someone need to collect the proofs, etc. and this is very time consuming. So it is not only to pay a lawyer. And do you know that a lawyer charge around 180€/hour?


This way they don't have to pay someone a fixed monthly fee which isn't even tried and tested.
But the monthly fee of $5 is unlike cheaper than the legal action costs for the victims. A VPN service cost $5-$10, therefore ridiculous to complain about $5 for an online gambling consumer protection service.



Ok, so let's say a casino runs with the money their investors and players put into the casino, how do your clients know you will fulfill your part of the bargain? If for example the cost of litigation and investigation would be more than what your clients paid you, I don't really think you'll be there to defend their cause. For example, one person or only a few joined your service, and it cost thousands of dollars to litigate, for sure you'll be running like the casino that you swore to protect against.

Also, can you give us one reputable member that has believed in you and has asked for your help.
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 06:09:45 AM
#14
I asked support and they said they have some kind of maintenance. I withdraw lots of times without any problem, one time i had to wait few hours(pending transaction) and one time transaction failed, after sending mssg to support they sent me coins back to account in less than half hour.
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 04:38:17 AM
#13
Some delay on withdrawal is normal with any of bitcoin casino including fortunejack. Yes most of the time withdraws are instant but sometime it requires manual verification from their staffs. You will get it for sure stay calm and please update your situation.
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 04:30:56 AM
#12
fortunejack is reputable and trusted gambling site, if you get problem about withdraw you can sending contact support fortunejack, or PM fortunejack account in bitcointalk with screen shoot youre problem, only makr create thread in bitcointalk without sending youre problem with screenshoot
youre problem is never solved, because you have not proof if you can't withdraw
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