Topic: Forum advertising space for free signature/avatar advertisement (Read 1389 times)

Everyone who wants to is allowed to participate. The first project we are advertising is BitcoinCleanup.com. Check out the website, take a look at the signature campaign, and the unofficial social media campaign and decide if this is something you would like to advertise. 

No one has asked me for it. Which projects are you referring to exactly when you talk about status? Not that many names were mentioned in the posts. I suggested Bisq at a time when I saw a few discussions about it, and then NotATether created BitcoinCleanup.com and I felt that is more important to talk about than Bisq. 

I am not being paid, no.

I don't know, but to a person who insists that his signature can influence the price of Bitcoin, you'd better not pay much attention to him:


He is a person who is guided more by faith than by reason:

My Faith-based Posts Compilation

I don't know how I haven't put him on ignore yet. Surely just for the laughs.

What is Bitcoin Master?

The only reference to it I found on a google is some Android mining game where you can collect fake BTC.

I received the message to campaign for defend  https://bitcoincleanup.com/

Actually, there is no need to defend pow as it has already been defended by Bitc*in Master. Believe me this not necessary. It's already defended.

Gotcha - thanks mate

NotATether created a signature campaign thread last night: BitcoinCleanup.com charity signature/avatar/social media campaign [Members+]
The avatar, personal text, and the brand-new signatures are in the first post. The avatar was also slightly modified as you might notice if you remember the old one.

Where can we get the signature from ? Any links ? TIA

Sandra_hakeem wasn't in a campaign when she wrote that. I think she became part of TrustDice yesterday. Judging by my previous reply to her on that matter, she wasn't of Full Member rank either, so she couldn't wear the avatar even if she wanted to. She meets the requirements now, but she got accepted in an official signature campaign already.

I do not understand what you mean by that. You mean when you are out of campaign?


Thanks for putting this into consideration and making it a reality. My avatar and logo all set now.

Awesomesauce !! Also managed to fit some URLs and now it's exactly 4000 

Thx a lot dude !!

here we go, 3937 3995 chars. haven't tried it yet, my rank doesn't meet  
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Oh yeah, sorry just came to mind, I added that too. Updated
Yours looks cool, man...

I tried to design a signature for myself but ended up exceeding the 4,000 character allowance (9,000+). If anyone wants to edit it so it might fit feel free !

I'll leave it here  

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WE ARE ALL HODLONAUT !

Oooff, you are right, i'm wearing them now, thanks for heads up :thumbs up emoji:

Gotcha, followed the twitter handle ^{(@BitcoinCleanup)} and retweet most of the tweets.
About local crypto forums there's nothing unfortunately, but some local forums i've joined have crypto/bitcoin boards maybe that would suit there.

Anyone can join. There are no restrictions. The more people, the better. You are a Full Member so you can wear an avatar with the personal text of course.
 
NotATether is trying to get some signatures designed. For now, his plan is to have them designed for Sr. Members and above. But with enough interest, there might be some for lower ranks as well. And if not, you can always make something basic yourself. Some short text, a hashtag, and the link to the site for example. Doesn't have to be fancy.

Since I am not on a pay campaign for now. I am willing to carry out the free advertisement campaign if only I am allowed to join with low rank. I can wear the personal text, avatar and if there is a signature for full member rank I will also wear it but I prefer to wear Sr. Member signature in the very near future.

Sure, why not. If it reaches just one person who likes what they see, and they retweet it to their follower base where a couple of others do the same, you would have helped to spread awareness about the project. Talking about the initiative in local crypto and tech forums outside of Bitcointalk is another way to spread the word. You never know who you might reach.

You can easily dedicate your personal text for it.
I did not change my avatar because this avatar is more branded than my username.

I wish i'm in the chipmixer campaign to freely wear any avatar i liked to everytime i want ^{(paging DarkStar_, just kidding)}.
Btw the site looks awesome too. Would really love to join advertising the cause, even not in this forum. Oh, i'll check my long lost twitter lol, maybe even just retweeting can help.

I recall to have contributed my ideas on how or what to expect on a project that could be worthy of free support and promotion and the proposed above being Greenpeace fits just good.

For some times now, bitcoin have been on the hit, still on the hit actually with government, private organisations, individuals and others pushing for its failure with no one to speak for it except the progress/truths of the project, having a little defense line won't be bad. How better would that be if not to have it's roots from the Satoshi Nakamoto innovation like the forum.

I pledge myself to this course and would continue to promote projects such as these on the forum when needs be and I'm available like now. Getting my greens up!

I really appreciate you for making to this far and also realizing one of the goals in the free promotional sites. I am always ready to promote bitcoin in all ramifications. I received (saw) your pm in my email first before the forum message box in the afternoon but was busy with work. Thanks you for your effort and also NotATether for bringing the site to reality. There are lot of projects that people in the forum like to execute but there are different things that are hindering them to complete their projects either financial to develop and launch it or otherwise.

As for now I can only wear the personal text because of my campaign. You are a senior man in the forum and you Know the rules.

 And I also like to suggest that those who like to advertise sites free in the forum should be allowed only in a campaign that accept only avatar, personal text or signature so that they can use the other space for the free campaign. There should be a campaign for us. So we can use the other space for this.

Pmalek, thanks for inviting me to this thread via PM.

For response, I personally don't mind taking at least one of several categories or maybe specifically a personal text about this free promotion on my profile. However, I certainly have to ask the manager first whether this is allowed or not because until now I'm still tied to the campaign. If it's allowed, then don't worry I'll use one of these later.

While waiting for the decision, at least the site is on my profile though not in personal text. Other contact info.

Thanks for the notice Pmalek, and great work creating the Bitcoincleanup project NotATether.
Due to sentimental reasons, I would prefer not to change my personal text at this time, and I cannot wear an avatar yet, leaving only my signature to be used. I have updated my sig space and would be waiting on proper sig design matching my rank.

Great work all round

- Jay -

Thanks for the PM.
I’m definitely in for the signature when it’s ready 
Prefer my avatar at the mo, but will change personal text.
I’ll keep an eye on this thread 

That's going to be a little hard, as green and bitcoin orange are almost complementary, so unless I just put an orangish halo around the logo or something like that, it's going to mess with the color harmony.

Perhaps the BTC in the middle could be orange. I would leave everything else the way it is. We need the green to represent nature, the environment, and environmental sustainability. An orange BTC might look more powerful and give forum users an additional option regarding which avatar to wear.

Bitcoincleanup website is a great idea but may I suggest using a bit of orange color along with the green for signature and maybe for updated logo, because at current state it reminds me a lot on BCH Bcash altcoin logo
This is just a suggestion, and I appreciate all your work collecting information and creating this website.

I could use a free HTML banner on the top of each topic though

I hoped somebody would do the signature code for free; you've done quite a lot for this, in both infrastructure and time (hats off for that).
Good that at least you've got some donations (I may contribute a little myself some of these days).

I have already contacted jayce for a signature but I have suddenly been plagued by internet outages since a few hours ago, so I haven't paid him yet... minor nuisance.

I commissioned him for a Sr member and hero/legendary member signature, but if there is demand for full member and member then I will have those designed as well (or I will just do it myself).

OK, great. I didn't know that, and I didn't see NotATether's post that he is already taking care of the signature aspect of things.   

It's true that you need to be Full Member or above to wear an avatar, but you can use a personal text with a message and link to the site if you want to. And if a signature gets designed for Member ranks, you can wear it.

I'm gonna wear this when I rank up.

Good to see that it's implement.
Sandra 👩‍🦱

If the purpose of creating a thread in services section is only to get a designer to create a signature for the project, then may i bring to your notice that it may not be necessary as NotATether already said he is working on signatures being designed, and i think if it is ready he will give an update for people that want to wear it. NotATether are the signatures ready?

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It is not a big problem, commercial signature campaigns do pause or finish from time to time, so members' whose campaign end can still wear it if they wish, and remove when they get another paid campaign, and people who are not into commercial signature campaigns can also wear it. Technically we will not be losing anything if a signature is designed.

The next step after finding some people willing to take part in the promotion will be to create a thread in the Services section to see if there is a designer who wouldn't mind to create signatures for all of us. Since no one is supposed to earn any money here and it's a community initiative, the designer would need to do it for free. In the same thread, I will also try to find people with loads of social media contacts/followers/friends who would help with spreading the word on those platforms.

Lastly, an official campaign thread could be created linking to Bitcoincleanup's topic in Bitcoin Discussion, the avatar, personal text, and the signatures.
I am still hesitant about the signatures though because I think that the majority of people are in signature campaigns already, so they can't wear them.

I set it up but do not know why it did not reflect just like the avatar too. I have done it again and it is all good now. Am still waiting for the avatar to come on. Thanks.

I recommend you also set a personal text, since some may not know what's that avatar about.

..And yes, it would be nice if a designer would also make a signature for those willing to wear it.

Yes am still interested in wearing the Bitcoincleanup.com avatar and will do for any business that promotes and safeguards bitcoin when am not in any paid campaign. You should also create a signature logo for this for people who will like both.

Avatar uploaded, taking time to load.

Obviously as the site creator, I am interested

Yes, definitely! But for now I can only put personal text on my profile. If I ever get the chance to wear an avatar, I will.

Does anyone know if there are any other hashtags besides #EndTheFUD that we can promote on social media?

Sorry about that. I just copy-pasted all the names from my other thread where I wrote down everyone who was interested in this kind of advertising without checking their individual profiles. Good to see that you already started on your own and you are willing to continue for the time being.

I've changed my personal text pretty soon after you did.
I've changed my avatar even a little before you did (we were both in the same campaign).
So I'm not sure why I'm in the list.

But if you asked for my thoughts, I'll tell the same as I said (in PM) to that campaign's manager: my current plan (unless a paid campaign comes up for avatar and unless CM changes rules for avatar) is to advertise Bitcoincleanup for a while (how long will that be, I really can't tell).

It's been a while since this was proposed. Let's see what everyone feels about it now.

NotATether launched an excellent initiative to counter Greenpeace and their goal to ban Proof of Work and destroy the Bitcoin we know. To learn more about it, check out Bitcoincleanup.com: a website to stop Greenpeace's bitcoin FUD and https://bitcoincleanup.com/.

I initially thought the first project we could advertise could be Bisq. But right now, I think it's more important to focus on helping spread the word about PoW. Without PoW there is no Bitcoin, hence why would we need Bisq after the destruction of PoW...

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My question for members who showed an interest in free promotion is:
Are you interested in promoting Bitcoincleanup.com?

Rizzrack, Mbitr, BitcoinGirl.Club, Z-tight, eddie13, Maestro75, ETFbitcoin, Ucy, NeuroticFish, PX-Z, YOSHIE, skarais, LTU_btc, CryptoHeadlineNews, un_rank, FatFork, Findingnemo, Agbe, libert19, and everyone else share your thoughts please.

The link to the avatar can be found here:

By using decentralized exchanges instead of centralized ones, you are helping yourself and in a way you are also helping Bitcoin to run through services which haven't come up with ridiculous rules as to who can and can't use their exchanges and what kind of coins are dirty money in their eyes. Trading fees exist all over the place. We pay them on CEXs plus their withdrawal fees, and no one is advertising them here and getting paid for it. But they still benefit from the community. 

Without a manager, I don't think it's a problem because it's a free job, so neither participant feels compelled to make xx weekly posts for it. So it must be as natural as possible but the quality of the posts must still be considered.

I'm asking because actually the service that will be promoted is a trading platform, and maybe every user who makes transactions there will be charged a fee. It would obviously benefit the platform if forum users here advertised it for free and managed to bring more people to it. I think it only helps platform visibility instead we help bitcoin, imo bitcoin is decentralized from the start and it's up to the users how they maintain their privacy properly. Had they paid a small pay to participants, I think it would have been well worth the effort and time. Or is there something wrong about my assumptions?

If the "campaign manager" is a frequent user of the service, this should be no problem.
Else I feel that some of those who may accept to advertise the service may not be OK with this or that simply because they're not that familiar with the service, and you know, since it's also for free, why risk?
Maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I see the things.

It's always a possibility that something can turn into a scam and people go rogue unfortunately. But I have not considered the need to have a campaign manager. Since there is no money involved here, I doubt anyone would accept that "job" of regularly checking what is going on. The participants can do some basic checks, but that's about it.

You stop the promotion. That's all you can do. The name on your signature can in theory become a scam tomorrow same as the brand I am promoting. No one should consider you responsible unless you keep promoting a scam and/or defending it.

It doesn't have to be me who makes a proposal, anyone can. I thought Bisq could be the first project simply because it's a proper decentralized exchange and a platform that isn't as well known as it could be. If you asked the average Joe to name a few crypto exchanges, very few would put Bisq on that list.

First I wanted to see whether we could gather a respectable number of people who would be willing to participate. That's the reason for the other thread with the poll and the list of users who could start tomorrow if needed to. I think we already have about 10 people who could start tomorrow if everything was ready. I think we need more though.

Once we have some kind of idea about the total number, my next step will be to find Bitcointalk members who would be willing to promote the projects we have over social media and other forums, and promote the fact that Bitcointalk is a place where good Bitcoin projects can get some free advertisement. I am not exactly sure how to do that and how to find these people, but I am certain Bitcointalk has many members that have social media accounts they use for paid promotions, for example, be it bounties or similar projects. They might be willing to help. At the same time, I will also try to find a signature creator who could make some designs for free. The emphasis is on FREE because as I stated earlier, this is not about making me or anyone else any money.

Additionally, someone from the project we pick for free advertisement should say a few words on Bitcointalk, create an ANN thread, or find a similar way to engage with the Bitcointalk community and explain what it is that they are doing and why bitcoiners should use their services, etc.

We, the people promoting the projects will not be making any money. You won't be paid for the promotion. I won't be paid, nor will anyone else wearing a signature, helping out with social media promotion, or designing the signatures.

That area you are talking about is displayed to only you the owner of the account, even the original avatar space is displayed to only the owner above, in the header, it is only displayed to other member's of the forum when they make a post or if a member visits your profile.

If the administrator should code an avatar space on that other side you are talking about, it will be visible to only the owner of the account in the header above, so where exactly will it be displayed to other forum member's when you make a post, under the current avatar space? Therefore member's will start having two avatars, one above and the other beneath?

I don't like the idea of two avatars, one is enough for whatever we wish to use it for, either commercial or for free, a member should choose one.

There is even great plan for this to execute which I mentioned earlier and many of them liked it but as always no actions were taken and that thread was lost into historical pages of Bitcointalk Forum.

The idea was to use the empty space available in the header just besides your profile name which is always displayed where ever you go on the forum section.

Why not use that empty space. Code signature space their and one can display or rent it out as per current discussion.



Checkout the red box. This is screenshot from phone view, desktop view gives more space to use.

How about that space? It can be utilised for this purpose.

Thanks for doing that! No decision has been made yet about what to advertise. I thought of Bisq because they are one of the most popular decentralized exchanges we have in this niche. The avatars are nice. Are they the right size? I like the black and white one the most. I will create a poll to see how many people we can gather to participate in advertisement campaigns.

So in regards to the free advertisement you guys have been discussing, and choosing to promote a decentralized exchange which is "Bisq", i have been able to design a few avatar for ''Bisq'' that could be used for the free promotion. So please O.P ''Pmalek'' and the rest of others, what have you to say about this avatar design, and which colour do you think is more perfect..? Alright...

No argument there. Whatever is good for the crypto scene and/or improves the privacy and security of individuals can be taken into consideration. But like I mentioned earlier, I do wish that the projects or software we end up advertising find a way to give back to the Bitcointalk community. This might be a bigger challenge than finding enough people to wear signatures and avatars.   

Most members had free custom avatars since the beginning of bitcointalk forum, and nobody ever asked them if someone is paying them for that or not.
It could be any random image, promotion of my local grocery shop, ad for selling my car, or advertisement for dog food, it's my avatar and my personal business.
Different story would be if some company officially creates ANN bounty topic and publicly hires members for their promotion.

I could always promote useful Open Source software that is connected with Bitcoin, and stuff related with improving privacy.
Even stuff that has nothing to do with Bitcoin could be on my radar, like KeePass, Librewolf browser, Tor browser, SearX, GrapheneOS, NewPipe, etc.

One of the things I mentioned in OP (maybe it can be called a requirement as well) is that the project should make an announcement thread on Bitcointalk, introduce itself to the community, and describe what it is that they do. Since Bisq already has an ANN page (even though it's not official), it's not a new project, and many people know what it is, it would be weird to ask them to make a new one. I would expect that someone from their team takes the time to share a few words with the members here though. The community would be doing them a favor after all. If they don't feel like talking to us, maybe we shouldn't waste our time with them either. The timing is also quite good since they are going to release a new version of their exchange, so there are topics for discussion. You brought up the security deposits, for example. That's one thing I don't like and maybe it can be an optional feature if both parties agree to it.

Anyone is free to recommend anything they consider worth advertising. So if you have something on your mind, feel free to share it. And besides, it doesn't have to be one project that everyone promotes at the same time. Let's say we get 20 people interested in this kind of promotion, and we have 2 decent projects that we could promote. It's perfectly fine to go for the one you like better. Even if the majority likes project #1, the others are free to promote #2, even if it's just 2-3 people. 

In my opinion, this idea makes sense and would be a great way to support new projects, but there's one glaring problem: who is going to decide what projects make it in? How will they be selected?
There are a number of scammers in the industry who will just try to take peoples money away, and to get rich off of this. If this is used for the success of new projects, then it has to be done right. I'm hopeful that we can come up with a way for people to provide feedback and in turn, make the decision for new projects to be accepted. But I'm not sure how we would accomplish this.


It is true, but there is a difference. Current signature campaigns cost money, and scammers generally can't afford or don't want to spend money on promotion. There were some exceptions, of course, such as Yobit, 1xbit and similar scams. However, this has been handled with a negative trust for the participants since they received financial benefits from promoting scams.

Concerns in what way? Do you mean there will be a lack of interest in promoting something in this way?

Nice, repeat it a second time in the same way. That makes it much clearer.

You can say the same thing about any service or campaign that is currently running on the forum. Anything we advertise right now (you, me, and everyone else) can in theory turn into a scam. There is no difference if you are getting paid for the promotion or not. You shouldn't advertise known scams, but no one has a Magic 8 ball to see what will happen in the future.

I guess what I was trying to say is, "sure this isn't so much for something your not directly on the team?".

Apparently, it won't be a one man thing vouching for services that could surface on the proposed advert space, perhaps it might come through some pool voting of some sort as we do often on the forum but, won't it be so much to actually stick put your neck whe you aren't directly on the development team? I mean, a project could turn out to be a scam at any point, even legitimate once and you never can tell of projects having back doors and shits like that until the damage begins to manifest and then, we would have ourselves to blame. Am just saying!

Many Bitcoiners are advocating for the use of decentralized exchanges instead of centralized ones, and rightly so. Since one of the most popular ones is Bisq, how would the community feel about promoting Bisq for free by wearing a signature, avatar, or a personal text for a while. It's not really the thing I had in mind when I started this topic, which was supposed to be about promoting new projects, but I feel like it's still a good idea.

I don't remember ever seeing an ad for Bisq anywhere and I don't think they pay much attention to marketing. Before I create a poll to see how interested people would be in advertising something for free, I would like to hear what you think about having Bisq as the first project?

What in God's name is a "free thread group?"

Pay? Didn't you say in your previous sentence that the "thread group" is free? So the "businessmen" need to pay a fee in the "free thread group" for what exactly? For promotion? How is that different from a classic signature campaign? I am trying to give legitimate projects (if we can find such) some free promotion. I don't want to create some free group to collect money. 

The forum doesn't need financial aid. Bitcointalk has millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin. What would be auctioned off? "Free thread group" t-shirts and other merchandise? Maybe a "free thread group" physical Bitcoin.

The whole point of OP is to help bitcoin projects giving a free advertising.

It's possible when a group of users or individual will give their time voluntarily.

You just convince scammer to come here because there is a free advertising campaign running in this forum.

Instead of helping those people to have free advertisement why not create a free thread group which other people can volunteer to participate then those businessman who want to avail the project need to pay and the payments will go directly to theymos wallet address use on auction for sure this will help more the forum and it will be beneficial to all users.

I mentioned previously that I mentioned this idea briefly to theymos, and here is what he said about it. I am sharing his entire quote but I would like to emphasize the last thing he said:

There is no perfect system and you can't make everyone happy. You can try your best to stay neutral and professional though. Ultimately, each person should have the right to promote what they believe is right or better.

That's not something I expect either. It could be something that posters who aren't in a paid campaign would be interested in. Let's take ChipMixer as an example. This campaign doesn't require their participants to wear avatars and personal texts. I am sure that some of them would be willing to wear an avatar or text for free as they have done in the past as well. With that in mind, you get good good posters that have room to promote other services as well.

Not a new sub-board. It's complicated enough with the ones we have. 

These are legitimate questions and concerns. That's why we have discussions like this one to find the best solutions.

Sorry, I didn't understand what you are asking here.

Like dkbit98 mentioned in his post, I can always create a poll and ask. But the results can be totally fake and people could lie intentionally. We might not know for sure until such a campaign starts.

You are thinking about some type of fundraising. That would surely not be something I would advertise. If someone wants to donate to a project, it's their responsibility to research what it's about and not trust me or anyone else just because we are advertising it. It's the same thing as with the casino ads you see. You are not just gonna deposit money in one unless you have checked their history to make sure they don't have a tendency to scam their players.

I am surely not a scam hunter nor do I plan to spend my days inspecting everything there is. There are many people who like that sort of thing and are good at it and they can do it if they want.   

This is actually a brilliant idea, as it will exposed us to more crypto projects and software that could be of good use to us as nobody can tell yet. And it will be nice if authors of good books about cryptocurrency are also given chance to advertise there books.

And that's good as it will expose more people to the bitcointalk forum, because am sure is not everybody who is into crypto who knows about this forum

And by doing so, help to provide jobs to those who offer services on the forum even thou the charges won't be much.

And I would have suggest that for a project to be eligible for free advert, it has to be scrutinized and ensure its not a scam, and like 2 trusted members on the forum can be selected to do that job so that the work load not be much on you

On a general note, your idea is indeed a good one, but I highly doubt its workability, this is due to various issues and concerns which i will pen down below....

It is indeed true that some users on the forum aren't part of signature campaigns, but this users are not really active if you check, don't you think this set of users coming out to offer free advertising to a project wouldn't really give the project that much exposure since the users in question are not active?
And speaking of those that might want to offer their Avatar and personal text, how many are they? is it really worth the effort?.

This will only end up being another way scammers and fraudsters going to use to get free advertising on the forum, and you know what? its not just going to be walking away with free advertising, they are also going to be walking away with money belonging to many forum members, and this, honestly wont be cool.

Like I said before, the idea is good and would really be a good way of supporting new projects, but this might not work if stringent/strict rules are not put in place that will deter scammers and fraudsters from using the program as a means of advertising their fake project and finding more victims to scam.

The idea of giving some freehand to projects that could lit the crypto space isn't out of hand but there are a lot of questions to this and most of them is contained in your third paragraph.

Clearly we have a news filed and I supposed its working very well and I perhaps your proposal would be maybe a subboard or pinned post that carries these projects. Just maybe posting your service thread on the service board is also so promotional strategy that comes without any financing but, having people to wear them for free would be something most users wouldn't want as, you stick out a lot in advertising some projects.
When it comes to creating a free ads space for this on the forum, it's likely not going to be seen on this rarely updated SMF forum software perhaps we could expect that in the new forum software but the questions becomes of exploitation as,

* Every developer would try to reap from the opened window. I mean, why should I pay when I can get it for free right?
* How do you determine a genuine broke guy with an idea from a financially capable one in an anonymous space?

I don't think the form gives more concern to the I flux of users here over time but still, we do okay.

* How do you come to the right kind conclusion on a forum that doesn't moderate scams but just sticks its moderation to its rules.

I mean, the right kind kind could go rogue and that been after the damage have been done by promotions like we saw in BitLucy.
That won't tell so well of the forum because, we ran it free as forum supported or endorsed and that even puts the project ahead of many paid offers. Consequently, would make users ignore other options and search out for a forum endorsed promotion.

* Sure this isn't so much for something your not exactly on  the team?

As a matter of necessity, non profit oriented projects should fit best to benefit from this initiative if it ever comes to light.

accept this kind of approach to everything that the OP presented.
I agree that the forum could be a little more friendly towards new prospective projects, surely there are ways to make better use of this community for them.

I don't expect anyone to leave a (well) paid signature campaign for the free promotion of something new. Most of the good posters and most active members have been in long-term campaigns for a long time. I think that the number of users who are free and want to wear signatures for free is too small. too small to adapt the forum to them.
it is easy for us from a comfortable position (from a well-paid campaign) to encourage others to carry the advertisement for free.


I believe that it will be very difficult to reach a consensus here, on what is acceptable or good enough.

For projects like preev.com, bitcoinpricecalc.com who does not have any interest to make it a money machine but to give back to the community, this is a good idea to help them.

Problem will start when there will be conflict of interests among forum users when some will not get the opportunity, they will think it was unjustified for them.

Sounds like a good idea, but it was already implemented. I remember that there were some free signature campaigns that used to raise charitable money or help people spend Merits for art and other campaigns.
There is no objection to advertising your campaign and making people wear signatures for free, and therefore there is no objection to creating topics that encourage that.

That's one possibility. That way I could check if the community is interested in advertising a service for free during times when they are not in signature/avatar campaigns or are generally not interested in taking part in paid promotions for whatever reasons.

That danger is always there. New coins and tokens would definitely not be considered. The person would have to make a post and introduce their service/website and let Bitcointalk know how it works and what they are planning to create. With enough questions and answers, I think we would get a good understanding of what it is.

Yeah, it doesn't even have to be a specific service or website, it can be an ad for the marketplace on Bitcointalk as the location for exchanging various coins or buying physical goods for Bitcoin. It might draw in some new people willing to trade, but it might also attract scammers and make things even worse.

I have no idea how this would work in everyday forum life, but you could create poll and ask people to vote if they are interested in having something like this.
Like with everything else, this could also be abused, so I would be very careful introducing this in correct way not allowing to advertise some suspicious projects or scams.

I am not sure about signatures that probably need more time for creating, but it's not that hard for anyone to create simple avatars in photoshop, and some designers could probably help if needed.
I remember someone started a cool idea for editing BestChange avatars so many people created their own custom versions.

It can have beneficial if people are interested in discussion about specific Bitcoin related project, but I would include anything related with bitcointalk forum.
We can already see people are wearing advertisement for managers, and this can be applied for anything else including marketplace, for example if I want to sell or buy something.
Let's say if I want to buy or sell new laptop, smartphone or bitcoin asic miner, I could add that in my profile with link to specific topic.

I did message theymos about it and there is something he would be willing to do to help out if needed. I will quote his message here if he agrees with that. I PMed him and asked about it.

Not everyone will be able to find that and it can get confusing for new forum members to go looking through the services section. How would they even know that someone would be willing to do that unless they hear the announcement somewhere or see a post about it on a different forum or social media, for example?

Great thread! Thanks for doing that. Here is the thing though. This is the first time I see it. And I am a regular and someone who uses Bitcointalk every day. Maybe if you hadn't linked to it, I still wouldn't have learned about it. Sure, it's just 3 days old, but still. I am not that active in that particular part of the forum, but I go there sometimes. Now, imagine if your thread was mentioned in a forum ad or the news field? People would discover it in greater numbers. 

You can create yours with very special objectives as you said or you can bring them to my topic

• [Overview] Bitcointalk Services from Bitcointalk Members
• It was not created with too narrow and specific objectives like what you're discussing but I included some free services there, yours and xhomerx10 who makes cool hats in Wall Observer thread.

In general, I think a community-led thread is good enough. Moderators will not have time to moderate, edit and update info if forum has a child board and a thread for it.

The way I see it, this doesn't have to be a forum generated service, and it's unlikely it will be. I can hardly see the admin creating room for a list of free advertisers on the forum.

This can be purely community generated; As you said, a user can create a thread for this, maybe in services section and willing users can indicate. After this, there would be a consensus on what projects to be promoted and for how long. Personally, I also don't see if this would be practical or sustainable.

Anyone who wishes to wear a signature, but is not interested in joining a paid campaign, can always select a business or charity of their choice to advertise. The only limitation to this is that, their preferred project may not have a forum signature design.

I just thought of something interesting while bumping one of my threads.
Bitcointalk rents out advertising space, right? We also have a news field on top where important announcements are made. Usually, it's about the latest Bitcoin Core release.

How great would it be if the forum made available some room to advertise a thread with a list of users who would be interested in advertising (via signatures, avatars, or personal texts) Bitcoin services for free?! Obviously, I am not talking about the usual casinos and stuff like that. I am talking about new projects or software developed by individuals who don't have the resources to pay for advertising. We as a community could do that and not charge them anything.

If ad space is asking too much, I understand. How about if the news field mentioned that thread and had a link to it?
Wouldn't this also be a great way to maybe attract some new Bitcointalk users - the right kind? People creating something of value and looking to get more exposure. We would obviously have to advertise the fact that we are willing to advertise good Bitcoin community projects outside of this forum. Social media like Reddit, Discord, Twitter, and other online communities. For that, we will need the help of people using those sites who have good-standing accounts/profiles and are willing to help.

How would this work?

1. We create a thread (I can do that) with a simple question asking forum members if they are willing to advertise Bitcoin projects for free? The thread would point to this discussion. Users can then make themselves available and mention if they want to offer their signature space, avatars, and/or personal text for this purpose.
There are people here that aren't part of paid signature campaigns and some who are but don't need their avatars and/or text field.

2. A user comes along and introduces their idea on the forum. If people like it, they offer the person free advertising. In exchange, whatever service and/or project gets developed has to be announced on Bitcointalk as well, have its own thread here with support, and maybe some special promotions or deals for Bitcointalk members. That way, the person who gets free advertisement also gives something back to the community.

3. The last step would be to create the signature and avatar and come up with a decent personal text message. We have people who offer these services here. We just have to see how much they would want for their work and if they would be willing to do it for free. Something simple that doesn't take too much time.


Is this something we can create here to benefit the Bitcoin ecosystem? One problem I see here is that maybe there aren't that many projects that would meet our criteria to be advertised.
Obviously, comments and suggestions are welcome.