Topic: Forum moderation policy - page 15. (Read 976957 times)

Make a public viewable Trashcan board in Other so that mods can move all trash-topics to the trashcan.
The trashcan board should be locked for users to reply, only readable.
Helps to educate users and prevent more garbage, users can see what undesirable content is.

And if you want the board to be more serious you can create a "Humor" section so mods don't have to trash these, but just move to this board.

I noticed I can't delete my own posts anymore.
I used to keep my posts count low, deleting from threads to stop being notified
now I can only edit the post but the delete link is gone
will it stay this way, please?

while i'm always pro transparency i see it's the right of the owners of this forum to delete as many posts as they want. you are free to leave. in fact i hope there will grow competition as with just one forum only, there is quite some power to manipulate the market by just randomly going offline.

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.

2. No zero value posts or threads, like "SELL SELL SELL"

3. No pointless or uninteresting threads.

4. No referral code spam

5. No NSFW content


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These all sound reasonable to me, harmful but reasonable, number 1 is the most likely to be harmful to building the character of a robust community.

I can see any number of posts that would be worthwhile and add to the character of this forum (to any forum) yet would fall foul of many of these caveats.

For instance swearing is so culturally divisive that what might be seen as a genuine transgression by one person is simply humor (or more precisely 'humour') to another. From personal experience I know that - for example - Americans are can be offended by language that people from the UK are indifferent to, or even see as endearing, what to one person imbues a post with spirit and character to another renders it offensive.

But of course nobody wants to have to 'listen' to someone hurling unnecessary and unwarranted abuse at another poster, so there is a real need to keep a check on this kind of thing, at least to some degree.

I suggest you make a distinction between swearing per se and ad hominem, for example here are two examples . . .

A) Oh, for fuck's sake I can't believe they've increased their fucking charges for THE SECOND TIME in a freaking month! This is really starting to piss me off, they are just going to drive business elsewhere . . . (and so on)

B) It's clueless people like you who think you know it all, running around like some kind of genius telling everyone who will listen how great you think you are. Yet time after time you get it wrong and end up with the whole forum laughing at the sorry spectacle you have become, mostly through your own stupidity . . . (and so on)

. . . example A contains swearing yet is (to these ears at least) not in the least bit offensive, example B is pure ad hominem, likely to elicit a similar response and is corrosive to the conversation.

If on the other hand there is simply going to be a list of censored words then why not just use the BB software to track and change them, much like a US religious forum, so 'shit' becomes 'poopy' - and 'no fucking way!' becomes 'no damn way'.

Personally I think this kind of thing is a move in the wrong direction, I am a member of a cycling forum in the UK that has zero moderation and the tone and sense of community is something even the best drawn up list of rules could not come close to, the forum has grown from nothing to 50,000 + and suffers none of the problems lists of rules like these seek to address.

It's fucking great !

 Cheesy

"zero-value" "entertaining" "pointless" "uninteresting" 
All these words are opinion based. they do for the forum what the term "terrorist" did for america. I agree, honest is best, remove "free speech" from the list. maybe you would want to consider adding "no slandering of individuals reputation" considering posts like this one:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20340.20

It's just not right for people to talk about things like this is public.

EDIT:
looks like i really put my foot in my mouth this time, maybe we shouldn't lock threads based on peoples accusations of other people:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20440.0

What is considered referral code spam? One of those full on advertising posts with referral codes all over it like were posted when tradehill opened? What if it's a little more subtle? What about low content posts with the code in the signature?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is there any reason to not just fully ban referral codes? They're mostly just spam and don't really benefit the forum any. And then it'd be a clear enforceable line.

Just a thought.

I dont think its good because its the means of getting merit point for many newbies. moderate shouldnt be so tough

That's the moderation policy and is only a tiny subset of the rules.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

Have a read of them and I'm sure you'll find which rule you broke (rules 1, 4 and 33 are the most common). That would be the only reason you were banned.

Also, this rule should be interesting to you.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

That's why your current account is likely to get banned as well.

I have followed all instructions on this post and now I re-visited it. But still, it's really weird and I wonder why my first account got banned. 
I never posted anything rude, all are just either asking or giving out information that I know of. Now I have to start all over again. 

Moderators are stone hearted. when they needed pubicity they used people to get invloved more in posting and now they are excavating them

Yeah, so new policy for moderation really needed specially those people who really like to rant..

Well not that I'm better.!

A reliable moderation policy is necessary for successful community engagement. A good moderation policy should be accessible, light-touch, and trustworthy.

In the most time,we cannot come to a conclusion without the acquaintance,but what we should remember is that everything needs the time.In the meanwhile,the regulation is necessary.Nothing can be accomplished without norms or standards.

  Listen I'm not much of a social media (or forums) guy, but I've been involved with crypto for around a year now and its not necessarily this website but most definitely reddit that makes my stomach churn. This arrogant sentiment is on bitcointalk as well. How about the fact that i cant even message anything on the crypto reddit threads because I don't have enough Karma and so-forth. Even if one does get a post or comment past the totalitarian moderators with their despotic inclinations and impulses that could rival even current North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the next step will be confronting the conceited rhetoric espoused by some lowlife in the comment section who has no time for someone who understands less than he does. This is nothing more that a catch 22. I don't have i certain level of respect within the community because i am not of a certain level, but i cannot get that respect and post because i don't meet their standards. What a joke. I cant even get airdrops because i am not deemed worthy enough.

how must it would  be difficult  to implement a voting system for posts using the latest forum software.

I have a concern regarding the Altcoin bounty thread. For some company(not all) it seems like 100 threads for one bounty/airdrop campaign. Sometimes it hard to track. there should be a one stop support for all bounties in one thread for one company. Sometimes I found the members are submitting their weekly task by adding reply instead of editing first reply of thread. It makes the thread more complicated and hard for bounty manager to track.

My apology if i made any mistake.

It means that it is not permitted to put a referral code anywhere in a post so they are effectively banned already. The exception to this is your signature where you are free to advertise a referral link if you want. Low value posts are also banned under rule 1 of Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ.

"zero-value" "entertaining" "pointless" "uninteresting" 
All these words are opinion based. they do for the forum what the term "terrorist" did for america. I agree, honest is best, remove "free speech" from the list. maybe you would want to consider adding "no slandering of individuals reputation" considering posts like this one:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20340.20

It's just not right for people to talk about things like this is public.

EDIT:
looks like i really put my foot in my mouth this time, maybe we shouldn't lock threads based on peoples accusations of other people:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20440.0

What is considered referral code spam? One of those full on advertising posts with referral codes all over it like were posted when tradehill opened? What if it's a little more subtle? What about low content posts with the code in the signature?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is there any reason to not just fully ban referral codes? They're mostly just spam and don't really benefit the forum any. And then it'd be a clear enforceable line.

Just a thought.

As long as it's not goatse, Alex Beckenham has a major point.

Also, some of the 'useless' threads are actually quite entertaining, if not educational (e.g. the Rawdawg and Bitcoin snail graph/meme ones).

I agree with the referral code one, though even that was interesting to see, some people are quite creative