Yeah, it's those fat thumbs trying to copy paste a sig code on an ancient smartphone. Lol
I say I suspect him of trust farming, but it's just that, a suspicion based on the trust he has, just like his suspicion of me trust farming is based on...who knows.
Some guy from Asia asked me to leave him feedback after he accelerated a tx for me, and that's probably why he was doing it in the first place. I gave him a neutral.
Doing something that's a free service and asking for a "tip"--that's shady IMO. This guy will never see that, though.
Topic: Forums stand in regards to users that have free Tx accelerators threads - page 3. (Read 1178 times)
November 13, 2017, 02:45:37 AM
November 13, 2017, 02:43:54 AM
If you think it is a scam to ask for money to refer someone to information that is free and available to the public, then you would probably also agree that it is a scam to tell a company how many posts a certain group of members made within a certain timeframe, yes? Both involve information available publicly at no (financial) cost.
November 13, 2017, 02:30:53 AM
I would bet that this guy also asks for feedback to be left after he accelerates a transaction--am I right? I'd like to hear from someone who's used his scammy service. Because looking at his trust page, I'm overcome with the stench of trust farming. I could be wrong, but I suspect I'm not.
There was another person doing this exact thing not too long ago if I'm not mistaken. It is most definitely taking advantage of people's ignorance, which is how grandmothers across the world get scammed every day. That's how they do it, and it's sad. I see a lot of rationalizations and dodging from him, which are also characteristics of lowlife scammers.
There was another person doing this exact thing not too long ago if I'm not mistaken. It is most definitely taking advantage of people's ignorance, which is how grandmothers across the world get scammed every day. That's how they do it, and it's sad. I see a lot of rationalizations and dodging from him, which are also characteristics of lowlife scammers.
Huh, I bet you have gone though nothing and started posting just because you want to earn some 'trust' . Real scammers will be those in favour of SFR10 . And if you want to see the user reviews then go and read the reviews first .
Wait what? it is currently in discussion for The Pharmacist is to be placed onto DT-2 level, why would he need to 'gain' more trust? How are scammers in favour of SFR10? I take back what I said yesterday to you about having a set price for your service, I had no idea it was a free thing you were doing.
@The Pharmacist, your signature is I think a little screwed-up
November 13, 2017, 02:24:15 AM
I would bet that this guy also asks for feedback to be left after he accelerates a transaction--am I right? I'd like to hear from someone who's used his scammy service. Because looking at his trust page, I'm overcome with the stench of trust farming. I could be wrong, but I suspect I'm not.
There was another person doing this exact thing not too long ago if I'm not mistaken. It is most definitely taking advantage of people's ignorance, which is how grandmothers across the world get scammed every day. That's how they do it, and it's sad. I see a lot of rationalizations and dodging from him, which are also characteristics of lowlife scammers.
There was another person doing this exact thing not too long ago if I'm not mistaken. It is most definitely taking advantage of people's ignorance, which is how grandmothers across the world get scammed every day. That's how they do it, and it's sad. I see a lot of rationalizations and dodging from him, which are also characteristics of lowlife scammers.
Huh, I bet you have gone though nothing and started posting just because you want to earn some 'trust' . Real scammers will be those in favour of SFR10 . And if you want to see the user reviews then go and read the reviews first .
November 13, 2017, 02:20:27 AM
I would bet that this guy also asks for feedback to be left after he accelerates a transaction--am I right? I'd like to hear from someone who's used his scammy service. Because looking at his trust page, I'm overcome with the stench of trust farming. I could be wrong, but I suspect I'm not.
There was another person doing this exact thing not too long ago if I'm not mistaken. It is most definitely taking advantage of people's ignorance, which is how grandmothers across the world get scammed every day. That's how they do it, and it's sad. I see a lot of rationalizations and dodging from him, which are also characteristics of lowlife scammers.
There was another person doing this exact thing not too long ago if I'm not mistaken. It is most definitely taking advantage of people's ignorance, which is how grandmothers across the world get scammed every day. That's how they do it, and it's sad. I see a lot of rationalizations and dodging from him, which are also characteristics of lowlife scammers.
November 13, 2017, 02:08:07 AM
IMO this is a new type of scam that has become recently popular. After reading through your interactions with said user, I feel strongly inclined to give them a negative rating. I'd also like to see what others think about the case and what they think the appropriate action is.
What else do you know giving a person negative rating and calling scam so quick . I am afraid to say but you guys are really not contributing to the forum as I am .
@SFR10, you should be punished for spreading out spam links . Yes I have updated it as I did not really know that I could use mass links at a time . For now you have zero probability of understanding .
November 13, 2017, 01:36:39 AM
IMO this is a new type of scam that has become recently popular. After reading through your interactions with said user, I feel strongly inclined to give them a negative rating. I'd also like to see what others think about the case and what they think the appropriate action is.
November 13, 2017, 12:31:40 AM
The other day, after I made the following post (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24439428), I received a PM from "CoolWave":
You shouldn't ask for anything or expect for anything (at all) for using a free services that it's out there for everyone to use for free. These actions should be made out of goodwill.
For Antpool you can easily copy paste all of the transactions at the same time and accelerate it (no hassle)
For ViaBTC, you have to do it on hour resets and if you're fast enough you can accelerate two transactions at the same time.
For ConfirmTX, as long as it's less than 400 byte/tx, it will be processed for free (without a limit on number of Tx's).
It also appears that you keep on giving the idea of a tip or donation, which is wrong since their actions should be made out of their own will and not given to them in form of the idea.
I hope you do the right thing from now on...
The catch : After 500 bytes, I would expect 10 $ tip (not mandatory ). I can accelerate one transaction at a time . For more, please pay 10 $ first .
Tippers : Accelerated in two different accelerators .
Non- Tippers : Accelerated in one accelerator only .
Tippers : Accelerated in two different accelerators .
Non- Tippers : Accelerated in one accelerator only .
You shouldn't ask for anything or expect for anything (at all) for using a free services that it's out there for everyone to use for free. These actions should be made out of goodwill.
For Antpool you can easily copy paste all of the transactions at the same time and accelerate it (no hassle)
For ViaBTC, you have to do it on hour resets and if you're fast enough you can accelerate two transactions at the same time.
For ConfirmTX, as long as it's less than 400 byte/tx, it will be processed for free (without a limit on number of Tx's).
It also appears that you keep on giving the idea of a tip or donation, which is wrong since their actions should be made out of their own will and not given to them in form of the idea.
I hope you do the right thing from now on...
His 2nd PM:
Ok,, do one thing . Serve people like I am serving and you should not miss a single guy . Forget about going out . You have to just keep on . Nothing comes for "free" . Time is the most precious thing in the world and I do not force people to pay . I ask for a tip only . The service will get misused if I start accepting transactions . Your perception is totally wrong .
And I said:
Ok,, do one thing . Serve people like I am serving and you should not miss a single guy . Forget about going out . You have to just keep on .
I'm not the one with the service thread in regards to this (you are). Since I have a life and don't spend my whole time in front of a computer, whenever I see a user in need of help, I help them (for free and without any expectation) and at the same time, I make sure they have some guidelines to do it by themselves (the next time that they stumble upon a similar situation).Nothing comes for "free" .
Indeed and you're stealing someone else's hard work for your own benefit. You think that's fine?Time is the most precious thing in the world and I do not force people to pay . I ask for a tip only .
Actually you are asking for a payment of $10 for more than one transaction.The service will get misused if I start accepting transactions . Your perception is totally wrong .
Misused in what way? You can simply close your thread and let a moderator, create a sticky in regards to these accelerators (with complete instructions), so everyone can use it right away (without the need of someone else). His 3rd PM:
1. Someone's hardwork ? Stealing ? What is it that I have stolen ? I have done my own research then got here . People can do their own . It is people like you actually who spread out things and then say it is being misused and stolen . So who is the main culprit here ?
2. Yes, I do ask for a payment for 10 $ as it is not going to buy me a Lamborghini and if I don't people will give me tonnes of transactions . I did not know about the mass transaction feature though . But still people will keep on coming with different transactions or better say they will misuse it . There are several accelerators out there , I hope you know that people also use them and they are paid as well .
3. Ofcourse moderators can use sticky, why don't they ? Do you think people will actually do it when they need everything fast ? No one has got time for that .
2. Yes, I do ask for a payment for 10 $ as it is not going to buy me a Lamborghini and if I don't people will give me tonnes of transactions . I did not know about the mass transaction feature though . But still people will keep on coming with different transactions or better say they will misuse it . There are several accelerators out there , I hope you know that people also use them and they are paid as well .
3. Ofcourse moderators can use sticky, why don't they ? Do you think people will actually do it when they need everything fast ? No one has got time for that .
My response:
1. Someone's hardwork ? Stealing ? What is it that I have stolen ? I have done my own research then got here . People can do their own . It is people like you actually who spread out things and then say it is being misused and stolen . So who is the main culprit here ?
Those pools that mine those blocks are the ones that should receive a tip and here you're getting the tip, as well as asking for $10 (for TX's beyond one). Yes, people can do their own research, and yet you asked me to delete the name and the link (shady behavior). You're the one who sent me a PM in regards to misused issue (in case you forgot) and I'm trying to point you to the right direction.2. Yes, I do ask for a payment for 10 $ as it is not going to buy me a Lamborghini and if I don't people will give me tonnes of transactions . I did not know about the mass transaction feature though . But still people will keep on coming with different transactions or better say they will misuse it . There are several accelerators out there , I hope you know that people also use them and they are paid as well .
Then you shouldn't have the label [Free] on your thread (since it's misleading) and also if you're not willing to accelerate tones of transactions, then you shouldn't start such threads in the first place. I'm well aware of the paid accelerators and after monitoring you, you're not using anyone of those.3. Ofcourse moderators can use sticky, why don't they ? Do you think people will actually do it when they need everything fast ? No one has got time for that .
There's already one out there (although a bit outdated): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/all-about-stuck-transactions-and-what-you-can-do-to-fix-them-1802212Another sticky with the updated information on service section will do wonders. So people don't have the time to copy paste their transaction ID on accelerators, but they have the time to post on your thread instead?
His 4th PM:
1. Its not pools that mine, its miners . What if someone sent a transaction with low fee ? Who do you think will help them ? You are not trying to understand . People would spend 10 $ but not spend 'time' in creating account . And I never asked people to send low fees means again I am not stealing . Of course I came to you because you are not doing right thing . You should rather point towards that sticky post than posting those links . Posting links again and again is nothing but spamming .
2 You mean I keep on working for people days and nights for free ? Why don't you do it then ? You want to enjoy your life and you want us not to help people then how come you are good to them ? There is already a post about this through which I got link, why don't you leave it on people ?
3. Do you think its as easy as copy pasting ? They have to make an account first and also verify it . If you really want to help pople then come and accelerate their each and every transaction for free then I will see how far you go.
2 You mean I keep on working for people days and nights for free ? Why don't you do it then ? You want to enjoy your life and you want us not to help people then how come you are good to them ? There is already a post about this through which I got link, why don't you leave it on people ?
3. Do you think its as easy as copy pasting ? They have to make an account first and also verify it . If you really want to help pople then come and accelerate their each and every transaction for free then I will see how far you go.
My last PM:
1. Its not pools that mine, its miners . What if someone sent a transaction with low fee ? Who do you think will help them ? You are not trying to understand . People would spend 10 $ but not spend 'time' in creating account . And I never asked people to send low fees means again I am not stealing . Of course I came to you because you are not doing right thing . You should rather point towards that sticky post than posting those links . Posting links again and again is nothing but spamming .
And those miners are mining on the pool itself. They can help themselves by using the accelerators. Not all of the accelerators require a registration and also in order for them to post on your thread, they need to create an account. The sticky thread is outdated and doesn't have everything (each transaction is different from one another, so I post whatever that it's required but you on the other hand, keep on asking for tips and that's the spam without contributing to the conversation).2 You mean I keep on working for people days and nights for free ? Why don't you do it then ? You want to enjoy your life and you want us not to help people then how come you are good to them ? There is already a post about this through which I got link, why don't you leave it on people ?
When you open a thread with the label being [Free], then that's what you should be doing or else your thread title it's misleading. You're asking me why I don't leave people to do something that it's dishonest or rather cheating, you're kidding me right?3. Do you think its as easy as copy pasting ? They have to make an account first and also verify it . If you really want to help pople then come and accelerate their each and every transaction for free then I will see how far you go.
They have to do that here as well (in order for them to post). I always accelerate all of the transactions for free (in case you didn't know, try to read further back).Anyways, it's already 2:30 AM on where I am and since this conversation it's going nowhere, I'll be creating a thread (in the morning), in regards to our discussions (and update you with it's link), so you can see the communities stand in regards to this issue.
His last PM:
1. You post those links which are useless . Viabtc takes only 100 an hour , do you think anyone can be so fast ? What about transactions which have been double spent ?
2. I do not cheat people . Come and accelerate . But if you will make 1000 posts to accelerated 1000 transactions I will definitely charge you .
3. You always do that . Have you ever woke up and started with a laptop serving people ? Look at me . Its 5:49 AM here and I slept at 3:20 AM . When you will do such service you will get to know . A random help is not worth it .
Go for it .
2. I do not cheat people . Come and accelerate . But if you will make 1000 posts to accelerated 1000 transactions I will definitely charge you .
3. You always do that . Have you ever woke up and started with a laptop serving people ? Look at me . Its 5:49 AM here and I slept at 3:20 AM . When you will do such service you will get to know . A random help is not worth it .
Go for it .
I didn't reply to that since it appears were going nowhere and he keeps making excuses (excluding the link that I'll be sending in regards to this thread, after I post this thread).
Users that use free accelerator and accelerate transactions for free are doing the right thing but the above user on the other hand that expects and requires for a payment (for something that's it's free to the public), is wrong (IMO).
Live thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/freep-bitcoin-transaction-accelerator-for-unconfirmed-txs-2204426
Archived version of the thread (prior to sending him the PM's): http://archive.is/GLNBS#selection-829.137-829.149
As you can see, he has edited the thread a little bit:
Original:
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The catch : After 500 bytes, I would expect 10 $ tip (not mandatory ). I can accelerate one transaction at a time . For more, please pay 10 $ first .
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The catch : After 500 bytes, I would expect 10 $ tip (not mandatory ). I can accelerate one transaction at a time . If you have got multiple, then list it at a single place . If you post two or more transactions in more than one post you will have to pay some tip (1$ - 10$) .
His profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coolwave-1153364Post history: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coolwave-1153364;sa=showPosts
The issues that I see is:
1. Why would someone be allowed to use a free accelerator that it's out there (for the public to use for free) and get credited for it (to use it for their own benefit and earn something from it)? I consider it to be dishonest and cheating in a way.
2. Users shouldn't be giving the idea of a tip or donation (which he does in almost every single post) and instead it should be done by clients, voluntarily. To me it feels like an indirect begging since it's indirectly asking for a tip or donation (by giving the idea).
3. What punishment it's appropriate for such cases?
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