Topic: Fraud Alert: Translator DutchFinity - page 2. (Read 1467 times)

Same happened to me

I'm from Belgium so my Dutch is a little different then Dutch from the Netherlands and also I make mistakes in my translations.
Giving people negative trust from a guy who made just an account to accuse me and you and believing this without consulting us.

I also sended a message to klaaas because Lauda aint answering.
I spent a lot of time working for project as translator and community manager and with just one post of a Newbie can change everything.

Really hope they consider this negative trust.

Hallo Lauda,

Je hebt me negatief vertrouwen gegeven omdat ik google translate zou gebruiken voor mijn vertalingen.

Ik wil je vragen om mijn post te lezen op https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fraud-alert-translator-dutchfinity-2384494

Ik ben geen fraudeur. Als ik een slechte vertaler ben dan ben ik bereid om ermee te stoppen. Maar de teksten die ik vertaald heb zijn oprecht van eigen hand. Het is kwetsend om als fraudeur betiteld te worden als je uren, dagen, weken achter je computer hebt gezeten en écht je best hebt gedaan om vertalingen af te leveren. Extra kwetsend is dat degenen die de discussie aanslingeren (TranslationsQA en Traductio) trollen zijn die bijna alle Nederlandse vertalers van fraude beschuldigen, waarschijnlijk om zo ruimte te creëren om zelf als vertaler aan de slag te kunnen.

Ik wil je dus vragen om eerst gedegen onderzoek te doen naar mijn vertalingen via mijn portfolio op https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X3g-tAdXdNLPOH9HpW3j1X5FoANdlshKuU9C7Rzjp3c/edit#gid=1397188669 en tot die tijd mijn negatief vertrouwen op te schorten. Lees niet alleen mijn vertalingen maar vergelijk ze ook met de Engelse versies zodat je in ieder geval mijn vertaalkeuze's kan begrijpen (zelfs als waren het de verkeerde keuze's).

Ik weet niet hoe jij je zou voelen als je jouw beloning voor weken van hard en eerlijk werk in een oogwenk ziet verdampen door onterechte beschuldigingen van fraude. Geef me feedback of noem me desnoods botweg een slechte vertaler. Maar ik ben zeker niet lui zoals klaaas geheel onterecht stelt, en ik ben zeker geen fraudeur. Die termen zijn kwetsend.

Over de morele inborst van Traductio aka TranslationsQA zal ik hier niet uitwijden, maar ik heb er wel een duidelijke mening over.

If anyone has problems with my translations I prefer that you adress the issues to me first instead of posting a scam accusing thread about me and giving me negative trust.

I am a genuine translator. No doubt I do make mistakes from time to time. But I spend much time and attention to the translations, and I do not deserve to be treated like this. Emotionally this is hurting. The consequences are also not small. The rewards I have earned by working for very many hours, days in a row, may be withheld from me, just like that.

The thing is that a blacklisting campaign against me is going on. There is a person who wants to get rid of me (and other translators) because I do too many translations. This person has taken on two newbie accounts in which he presents himself as a translator himself. I already knew him as Traductio. As Traductio he approached several bounty managers to tell them I do bad or google automated translations. One of these bounty managers is Avirunes who is doing the Mavin project. After the accusations of Traductio the Mavin team had a native Dutch speaker analyse my Mavin translations. And after that I was approved and Traductio was blacklisted by Avirunes. Please speak to Avirunes about it. This same Traductio also tried to blacklist other Dutch translators like Fabsquire and sjeezman. And now he apparently has taken on a new account as TranslationQA wherewith he tries to blacklist FIEX and me again.

Please note that both Traductio and TranslationQA want to do translations and are blacklisting many Dutch translators who are actually doing quite well. Do you really think it is a coincidence that these two newbies are present in this thread? They are one and the same person. They are trolling translators around, and you fell for it!

Then, the one giving me the negative trust, please do proper research before you give me negative trust. Read my whitepapers, other threads, and don't focus on a couple mistakes I made. Check my portfolio properly please: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X3g-tAdXdNLPOH9HpW3j1X5FoANdlshKuU9C7Rzjp3c/edit#gid=1397188669. Also understand that sometimes the English versions are bad translations from Russian. In such cases Russians often forget to use articles like 'a' and 'the', or they mix them up, which sometimes may explain some artificial sounding Dutch translations, because I want to stay true to what the English whitepaper says.

I am not infallible, but my translations are genuine. Please re-consider the negative trust. I don't deserve it. For me there is a lot at stake. Months of earnest work you throw down the drain with your negative trust. Talk to Avirunes, or the Mavin team, check my work better, and not just the small fragments where I made mistakes or typo's. And then come back. In the meantime remove my negative trust. It hurts and I don't deserve this! If I am a bad translator? Fine; if everybody thinks so I will stop. But I don't deserve a scam status!

Excellent timing, thank you

@Lauda, thank you for looking into this case, much appreciated as always.

With all due respect, whether or not klaaas believes he uses Google Translate is completely irrelevant, the evidence clearly shows that, in fact, he does. Similarly, whether the changes he makes to the GT-generated texts are good or bad is also irrelevant. This is not a case of someone using Google Translate to "assist" them with their translations, this is an obvious case of someone performing minor alterations to a text generated by a computer translation tool. That has nothing to do with performing real translations, yet he receives the same rewards as people who do.

@klaaas

The Dutch members on our team have verified that you have excellent command of the Dutch language and surely are a native speaker. For the sake of the real translators on Bitcointalk, we ask you to please evaluate DutchFinity's translations rather than his comments. You will then be able to confirm that the changes he makes to the GT-generated texts are merely an attempt to make the texts seem original and do not actually improve them (and often actually make them even worse).

@thread

I want to reiterate that, since DutchFinity obviously uses Google Translate, the "quality" of his adjustments to these fake translations really doesn't matter. To draw a comparison with another bounty campaign task: If a user joins a Twitter campaign and sends his tweets to a thousand fake accounts, the quality of those tweets is entirely irrelevant. Even if this user's tweets contain the most effective marketing content of all time, that user is still a fraud who shouldn't be a allowed to participate in campaigns and certainly shouldn't be receiving any rewards for their fraudulent activities.

Yes i do think this person uses google translate as main translation.
as example this  

No way you use these sentences in this way.
these sentences are constructed wrong.


We gaan onze bestaande oplossing voor het delven door het te verbinden

Even if he knows Dutch, but uses an automated tool for translating he is defrauding the people offering these jobs. So therefore, let me ask you the following:
Do you strongly believe he uses automated tools? Do you strongly believe that he should be tagged?

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Luckily klaaas is a dutchie that I can trust with objectively reviewing this case.

Reading a few of his posts in the dutch sub do me believe he can read and speak dutch.
The mistakes i see in the above pictures and in this post here he/she properly dont got enough skills or is lazy in writing dutch and uses google to assist him/her.

*side note for bounty managers*
his/her account is also fresh [Date Registered:   June 27, 2017]
late sept. he/she went crazy on the translations.

Search a trusted and higher ranked person with a history longer than a year if you want some assurance for a proper translation.
The first one that says 'yes, i can do it' isnt always the best choice.

Just like WELL and Mavin announcements. I sent a message to the respective bounty managers and I assume they will investigate it further.

Thanks for taking the time to out these shysters.

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