Topic: Free Bitcoins on The Bitcoin Show Next Monday sponsored by Coinbits.com - page 2. (Read 3805 times)

+1 lol    oh come on we're all grown up's aren't we ?   assuming you can even see this 

This is a good thread to find additions to my ignore list.

+1

I won't be watching any of those "The Bitcoin Show" episodes. And I will avoid doing business with anyone associating themselves with Bruce Wagner.

cbeast:

I am a business man and I care about morals and ethics etc. more than profits, and if I only cared about profits I would care what my customers
and, potential customers, thought about my business practices and who I associate and advertise with etc.

While you think most businesses these days care only about profits, more and more customers are getting pissed-off with the way things have
traditionally gone in the business world and good businesses would take note, even if they only have their own best interests in mind and
cared nothing about others in this world.

Sure, he'd be welcome to paint my house next summer, but not handling my company finances. *g*

I'm tending to side with Tril on this one . Bruce has been thoroughly vetted and has been found not have anything to do with mybitcoin if he has then lets present the evidence or no and go after him?  As for his mortgage fraud thing  I believe everyone deserves a 2nd chance? I mean we've all  had a bad things happen to us does that dis-qualify us from enjoying bitcoin or at the very least not allow us to promote our business's?  And as Trill said Something Awful got the lulz in this and repeated this non-sense over and over here to where it seems some of our members are believing it.  I've had my past battles with SA  just look at my old threads

Side note: At one point I was accused of being Bruce

If you're smart, experienced and intelligent, chances of getting conned are less, but it could still happen. I would be unwilling to share your level of arrogance.

Translation - People are weak and stupid. I know better than them. It is my job to protect weak stupid people from themselves and from those who may exploit them.

Let's get real here.  While theres no proof that he was associated with mybitcoin or that he is a ephebophile, but he is a convicted con man and took money from people on the verge of losing their homes with promises to help.  I doubt trolls made up court documents.  

Great idea! Looking forward to watching it and +1 to you for supporting the best Bitcoin show out there!

For your information, Bruce Wagner is a criminal and fraudster. 'Interesting' to see that your company wants to be associated with this person.



That's a bold statement. To the day that I die, I will walk the way of justice. People in a weak position, being exploited by someone else, I feel with these people. And any scammer and fraudster, no matter the level of their crimes deserves not to be spoken highly of. To my knowledge, there's no clear evidence of Bruce being involved in the mybitcoin scandal, merely indicies. However my main grip with him is his convictions in the court
system.

I can reccomend to read: this article , with excerpt:
All scams are low, but scamming people so they potentially becomes homeless, that's a new low in the scam division. No matter what people would think of me for what I say, I would never stop trying to make the world a better place, and for that to happen, people like Bruce Wagner needs to feel the consequences of their actions. Chosing to associate your own business with anything run by him, would make me not want to be your customer anymore.

If you attribute being a good and honest individual to malice, so be it. My blood boils when I see injustice, and there's nothing I hate more than a dishonest individual telling lies attempting to fullfill his egoistical selfish needs.

I am sick of the Bruce bashing going on, the accusations have already been addressed satisfactorily, any reptition is pure malice.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.492483
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.491039


There is no evidence Bruce was related to mybitcoin, except he encouraged newbies to get accounts there and lost a lot himself.
There is no proof mybitcoin was a scam, they failed to implement proper bitcoin security (only waiting for 0-1 confirmations) and got exploited.
https://www.mybitcoin.com/

The lies were created by trolls from Something Awful to help crash bitcoin and for lulz.  There's no need to help them.

Guilt by association. Always a sign that the goon squad is not far behind. Fortunately for Bruce, he does not yet live in a Banana Republic. OTOH, our former Chief Executive Administrations were full of indicted appointees. The exception is the 43rd POTUS with a teflon clean record that the entire world admires. But I digress... Business these days cares not about morals, mores or ethics when profit is involved, present company excepted of course. Those minor details are left to the legal department.

Hey! As a baby eating atheist vampire I resent being compared to bad people!
Well... I eat animal babies, am an atheist, and am a count... But that's close enough!

Is your indifference towards Bruce's past indiscretions, viewing going on his show a "means to an ends," indicative of your business values as a whole?
Do you believe self-promotion, and the resulting money, is worth more than your dignity and your business's reputation?
If not, why are you using his show to promote your brand?

If a site I used was going to be advertising on The Bitcoin Show, I have the same feelings RaggedMonk does, and will definitely always keep in mind Coinbits using The Bitcoin Show as a platform for acceptable advertising.   I don't use Coinbits regular enough to have a strong opinion on that, but I think you should be happy if anyone would care enough about your site to bring up such concerns.

Everyone groans when a big business pulls out of some kind of advertising campaign based on personal politics, but that groan is so short compared to true business lost and the view of your company if you do work with someone that would have such a questionable record.

See, I really appreciate your response here. I thought it was very mature and you sound like a rational guy!

However, after reading your next response....


C'mon really?
"Does coinbits.com support fraud and pedophilia"
"What is coinbits.com's position on underage prostitution"

I hope you really don't believe that and are just trying to stir a conversation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Andrew,

Why did you choose the show of a pedophile convicted of fraud to promote your brand?  Does coinbits.com support fraud and pedophilia? Interesting choice of branding.

What is coinbits.com's position on underage prostitution?
What about fraud?

Sincerely,
-Ragged

That's pretty cool that you helped open the closet full of skeletons.  I would still strongly encourage you to boycott his show. 

You can wait for things to change, or you can be the change.  I choose the latter: I am going to be vocal against him every time someone positively mentions his show in this forum. If you go on his show to promote his business, I will remind everyone within earshot you are associating with a con man and a creep.   

I wouldn't call this "bickering," I would say there's a huge smelly turd in the middle of the room, and I see a lot of people breathing it in or just waiting, hoping it will go away by itself.

Grab some bleach, lets get this shit out of our house.

If you haven't heard about it:
http://buttcoin.org/has-bruce-wagner-pulled-off-the-financial-biggest-scam-on-the-bitcoin-community