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Topic: FREE ELECTRICITY: Magnets Motor Electric Generators (Perpetual Machines) - page 6. (Read 32566 times)

legendary
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ok real question:

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS WITH MY CREDIT CARD? AND PLEASE NO BS ABOUT BUILDING INVENTING IT MYSELF

Here:  http://www.shapeways.com/model/2913260/perendev-109-120114.html?li=user-profile&materialId=6

Sometimes in the future a 3D printer will be use to print out the machines. Users just need to buy the magnets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=85114404&v=PNj6uGW-Ly0&x-yt-ts=1422579428
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Running Yildiz Magnet Motor at Inventors Expo April 10-12, 2013, Geneva, Switzerland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDpKqdcDDrQ
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ok real question:

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS WITH MY CREDIT CARD? AND PLEASE NO BS ABOUT BUILDING INVENTING IT MYSELF

Here:  http://www.shapeways.com/model/2913260/perendev-109-120114.html?li=user-profile&materialId=6
legendary
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LOL! LOL! You have no idea how universe works!!!
Take a chill pill, you're laughing maniacally.

Ask yourself this: WHY is nobody using these to make money? Especially bitcoin miners that operate with huge electrical expenses and tight margins.
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LOL! LOL! You have no idea how universe works!!!
legendary
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Magnets loose their force after 400 years. So, it is not days or weeks. Do you realize what would happen if all people had free energy for their houses/cars/factories? You can't stop technology. Soon or later it will be reality.
400 year
It's spelled "lose", as in losing. Loose means large or unfit, as in yo pants drop off your ass.

http://www.magnetsales.com/design/designg_frames/designg_2.htm

5.1 Time
The effect of time on modern permanent magnets is minimal. Studies have shown that permanent magnets will see changes immediately after magnetization. These changes, known as "magnetic creep", occur as less stable domains are affected by fluctuations in thermal or magnetic energy, even in a thermally stable environment. This variation is reduced as the number of unstable domains decreases. Rare Earth magnets are not as likely to experience this effect because of their extremely high coercivities. Long-term time versus flux studies have shown that a newly magnetized magnet will lose a minor percent of its flux as a function of age. Over 100,000 hours, these losses are in the range of essentially zero for Samarium Cobalt materials to less than 3% for Alnico 5 materials at low permeance coefficients.

5.4 Adverse Fields

External magnetic fields in repulsion modes will produce a demagnetizing effect on permanent magnets. Rare Earth magnets with coercive forces exceeding 15 KOe are difficult to affect in this manner. However, Alnico 5, with a coercive force of 640 Oe will encounter magnetic losses in the presence of any magnetic repelling force, including similar magnets. Applications involving Ceramic magnets with coercive forces of approximately 4KOe should be carefully evaluated in order to assess the effect of external magnetic fields.


As I said before, because the magnetic field is stressed several times a second for these generator magnets, they are being slowly decayed and demagnetized. It seems that some magnets will decay in half their strength in 150 years just by sitting around doing nothing. However, most modern permanent magnets are produced by magnetizing iron alloys. The same very strong force that is used to make them can be slowly obtained while draining them in a generator described in your video. You are essentially spending energy to charge the magnets, and placing them as fuel in a motor where they are spent.

There were many many many generators built in the last 50 years and they work just fine for the first few weeks simply rotating in place without a workload. However once you attempt to use the energy to do useful things, the magnets weaken within days due to strong repulsive forces inside the engine and from alignment swings caused by passing by fields inside the rotation cycle.

Because the energy is expelled from the magnets, it keeps the generator spinning against basic friction forces. But it does not work, you get less energy than you put in, it costs more to charge, transport, install and spend the magnetic fuel than to use the energy directly. This is how our Universe works, until you can prove otherwise and win a freaking Nobel prize, you are talking out of your ass.
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Magnets loose their force after 400 years. So, it is not days or weeks. Do you realize what would happen if all people had free energy for their houses/cars/factories? You can't stop technology. Soon or later it will be reality.
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Do you see any wear here?
Do you see any of those used by serious people? No, because they don't work. I mean seriously, if they did, everyone would have one in their house and their factory. Nobody would need petrol and there would be no wars over resources. Take a look around you and see if this happens...

The magnets wear in days/weeks. This has been tested for over 50 years and it always happens. The magnets cost more to replace than You are continuing to feed your delusion and can't understand the laws of this physical Universe.

This is a bitcoin forum. Do you realize what would happen if a single miner had the ability to build those for a few thousand dollars and power their few hundred thousand dollars worth of mining equipment and get free coins and sell them at whatever price? Stop and think for a moment, ok?
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A magnet can provide perpetual force to a system.
No, it can't.

Yes, it can.
No, It can't. Magnets used in this manner wear out, they are essentially fuel that costs more energy to produce than they can expel.

Perendev magnetic motor

"The Perendev magnetic motor brings a new form of energy to the World, No fossil fuel is used in the running of the motor, the motor runs on Magnetic/electric energy produced by the repulsion of the magnetic fields."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFGiWiXMHn0

Do you see any wear here?
legendary
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A magnet can provide perpetual force to a system.
No, it can't.

Yes, it can.
No, It can't. Magnets used in this manner wear out, they are essentially fuel that costs more energy to produce than they can expel.
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ok real question:

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS WITH MY CREDIT CARD? AND PLEASE NO BS ABOUT BUILDING INVENTING IT MYSELF
legendary
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A magnet can provide perpetual force to a system.
No, it can't.
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This would be great if it was possible.
Perpetual motion is not at all possible, you would need to remove all things that could reduce the amount of energy.
Low friction stuff can produce what is perceived as perpetual motion but in reality is not.

Perpetual motion is possible if you have perpetual force. A magnet can provide perpetual force to a system. A simple example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiAhiu6UqXQ

Also perpetual motion could be achieved if the output is bigger than the input. For example if the output is 10 times bigger, you can use the 1/10 to recharge the input.
legendary
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This would be great if it was possible.
Perpetual motion is not at all possible, you would need to remove all things that could reduce the amount of energy.
Low friction stuff can produce what is perceived as perpetual motion but in reality is not.

The perpetual motion argument is great, it's impossible because the energy of a closed system can never increase yet the system runs down and stops due to energy leaving the system from friction.





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et rich or die tryi
This would be great if it was possible.
Perpetual motion is not at all possible, you would need to remove all things that could reduce the amount of energy.
Low friction stuff can produce what is perceived as perpetual motion but in reality is not.
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