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I think they should never tell us what the fingerprint is.

It's exactly the same techniques that every other online casino uses. Don't pay any attention to the diarrhea that comes out of that idiot's mouth.
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Security by obscurity never works.  Theres no issue saying what the fingerprint is comprised of because we still dont know how its created/hashed.  But knowing what the components are would help to understand why you were falsely accused and im almost certain its canvas fingerprinting which is really bad practice.  No security person would ever do something so dumb.  Wetsuit is likely not a security professional and he may not know this is bad.
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Curious,  you say the fingerprint is unique to each machine.  But as far as I know there are only a few things truly unique to each machine and none of them should be available to js or a browser without actually hacking the machine.  Those would be the HD serial (in the case of windows machines it makes a unique serial upon formatting),  the machines network card mac address, and the gateway devices mac address.  None of these are available to js or a browser with only 1 exception,  java can access those.  

So im curious what else you consider as unique?  Obviously its not the email  or btc adderess because that ss you just showed has tons of accounts with the same fingerprint and the site doesnt allow duplicate btc or emails.  So its something else or wetsuit is abusing malware to access things he should not be.  I suppose the external ip could also be,  but i thought freebitco had measures against that already so making a fingerprint that uses the ip seems silly as it would then make better sense to simply use the ip for ease of human readability.  That to me would be like making another md5sum of an existing md5sum,  pointless heh.

 Another would be browser canvas fingerprinting but that is NOT unique to each machine and is an seo marketing tactic to group machines into similar categories to display targeted ads.  So a lot of machines would have the same fingerprint yet have nothing to do with each other other than the fact that they like similar things such as freebitco and other crypto places probably.  Its not a security method to identify specific machines.  Is he actually trying to use canvasing as a security measure?  I surely hope not or you will have ALOT more problems like you just had with this guy by falsely accusing his account.  Any security person would know you never use canvasing for anything other than marketing.  Sounds to me like wetsuit may need help in the security dept maybe.

I just tested my theory and it appears I am correct.  Different browsers on the same machine produced different fingerprints.  I think hes trying to use canvas printing incorrectly and thats really bad.  Alot of innocent people are going to get grouped into buckets with bad people and we have an example already.  The fingerprinting seems to be something new also as it didnt exist for login until recently.  Now it requires the fingerprint id to login.  I dont like wetsuit at all,  but some friendly advice would be to stop attempting to use canvasing as a security measure.  Its going to fail more than its successful.
I think they should never tell us what the fingerprint is.
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Curious,  you say the fingerprint is unique to each machine.  But as far as I know there are only a few things truly unique to each machine and none of them should be available to js or a browser without actually hacking the machine.  Those would be the HD serial (in the case of windows machines it makes a unique serial upon formatting),  the machines network card mac address, and the gateway devices mac address.  None of these are available to js or a browser with only 1 exception,  java can access those.  

So im curious what else you consider as unique?  Obviously its not the email  or btc adderess because that ss you just showed has tons of accounts with the same fingerprint and the site doesnt allow duplicate btc or emails.  So its something else or wetsuit is abusing malware to access things he should not be.  I suppose the external ip could also be,  but i thought freebitco had measures against that already so making a fingerprint that uses the ip seems silly as it would then make better sense to simply use the ip for ease of human readability.  That to me would be like making another md5sum of an existing md5sum,  pointless heh.

 Another would be browser canvas fingerprinting but that is NOT unique to each machine and is an seo marketing tactic to group machines into similar categories to display targeted ads.  So a lot of machines would have the same fingerprint yet have nothing to do with each other other than the fact that they like similar things such as freebitco and other crypto places probably.  Its not a security method to identify specific machines.  Is he actually trying to use canvasing as a security measure?  I surely hope not or you will have ALOT more problems like you just had with this guy by falsely accusing his account.  Any security person would know you never use canvasing for anything other than marketing.  Sounds to me like wetsuit may need help in the security dept maybe.

I just tested my theory and it appears I am correct.  Different browsers on the same machine produced different fingerprints.  I think hes trying to use canvas printing incorrectly and thats really bad.  Alot of innocent people are going to get grouped into buckets with bad people and we have an example already.  The fingerprinting seems to be something new as far as logins go as it didnt exist for login requirements  until recently.  Now it requires the fingerprint id to login.  I dont like wetsuit at all,  but some friendly advice would be to stop attempting to use canvasing as a security measure.  Its going to fail more than its successful.
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Just one free roll?

Yeah, that one was easy to spot and ban. Might even be the same guy that then tried another tactic to try and fool us.
Our conversation made me feel heart attack but will make abusers cry.
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Just one free roll?

Yeah, that one was easy to spot and ban. Might even be the same guy that then tried another tactic to try and fool us.
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Good to hear it.
My channel members were complaining about this deletion, they said we deposited btc in our accounts .
Now i realized that those people were fake and maybe it was only one guy with lots of accounts.
Now I feel an heart attack Embarrassed

The bug was that you could change the email address to one already in use after creating the account but we fixed that a while ago. It looks like you probably had a few people with a thousand or so accounts each. One of them used a little loophole in Gmail that allows addresses with dots to all go to the same mailbox.


Just one free roll?
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Good to hear it.
My channel members were complaining about this deletion, they said we deposited btc in our accounts .
Now i realized that those people were fake and maybe it was only one guy with lots of accounts.
Now I feel an heart attack Embarrassed

The bug was that you could change the email address to one already in use after creating the account but we fixed that a while ago. It looks like you probably had a few people with a thousand or so accounts each. One of them used a little loophole in Gmail that allows addresses with dots to all go to the same mailbox.

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I thought if I use same email address my both accounts will be banned.
Now i see freebitco has such low security.
Why do you let people to use same email addresses?

It was a bug but it has been fixed now. That has nothing to do with security either.
Good to hear it.
My channel members were complaining about this deletion, they said we deposited btc in our accounts .
Now i realized that those people were fake and maybe it was only one guy with lots of accounts.
Now I feel an heart attack Embarrassed
hero member
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I thought if I use same email address my both accounts will be banned.
Now i see freebitco has such low security.
Why do you let people to use same email addresses?

It was a bug but it has been fixed now. That has nothing to do with security either.
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What?
If i knew this you think i would ask you to check my account?
Stupid people in my channel wanted to do this, to cheat you and even cheat my lottery. i didn't know what was happening, i just saw my referrals are growing up.
Now that you say they used same email addresses, I just shocked and felt sorry.

It's a mixture of things but we only delete accounts if we are 100% sure it is abuse. Apart from the emails and IPs every device has an individual fingerprint. This is a sample section of the ones that got deleted.


I thought if I use same email address my both accounts will be banned.
Now i see freebitco has such low security.
Why do you let people to use same email addresses?
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What?
If i knew this you think i would ask you to check my account?
Stupid people in my channel wanted to do this, to cheat you and even cheat my lottery. i didn't know what was happening, i just saw my referrals are growing up.
Now that you say they used same email addresses, I just shocked and felt sorry.

It's a mixture of things but we only delete accounts if we are 100% sure it is abuse. Apart from the emails and IPs every device has an individual fingerprint. This is a sample section of the ones that got deleted.

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I don't know if I have them or not, i must check my old files.
You just check my account, these 4 referrals signed up after the deletion.

OK, I've had a look at your account and it seems that you had 7,849 mainly using the same email addresses and/or IP addresses to abuse free rolls. Would you like me to publish the full list?
What?
If i knew this you think i would ask you to check my account?
Stupid people in my channel wanted to do this, to cheat you and even cheat my lottery. i didn't know what was happening, i just saw my referrals are growing up.
Now that you say they used same email addresses, I just shocked and felt sorry.
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I don't know if I have them or not, i must check my old files.
You just check my account, these 4 referrals signed up after the deletion.

OK, I've had a look at your account and it seems that you had 7,849 mainly using the same email addresses and/or IP addresses to abuse free rolls. Would you like me to publish the full list?
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I just had their btc addresses, because referrer can't see his referrals id.
This is my user id : 2786472
You can see i have only 4 referrals, and I've earned 0.5 btc from commissions!

BTC addresses will do. What about the ones you claimed were deleted?  That just doesn't happen so please don't spread lies.
I don't know if I have them or not, i must check my old files.
You just check my account, these 4 referrals signed up after the deletion.
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I just had their btc addresses, because referrer can't see his referrals id.
This is my user id : 2786472
You can see i have only 4 referrals, and I've earned 0.5 btc from commissions!

BTC addresses will do. What about the ones you claimed were deleted?  That just doesn't happen so please don't spread lies.
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You say refer more, but I have a bad experience in referring people.
Long time ago i had a telegram channel, i was encouraging people to join freebitco, i had my own lottery every Sunday between my referrals, they were all my family and people in my country.
Suddenly i saw my referrals had been deleted!
In that time i didn't know there is such place (here) , i was scared too.
Some of my referrals had a lot coins in their account!
I don't know what happened, but I saw my referrals are zero, and they said our accounts is logged out.
I just left the channel, and i hope they don't find me, but my own family were angry with me for some months.
I think there is no way to recover my referrals (they had about 4btc in all accounts), but i don't refer people anymore.

That's not possible. We don't delete accounts, all referrals are for life. If you have the user IDs I'll be happy to investigate.
I just had their btc addresses, because referrer can't see his referrals id.
This is my user id : 2786472
You can see i have only 4 referrals, and I've earned 0.5 btc from commissions!
hero member
Activity: 2576
Merit: 882
Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2
We have increased the MULTIPLY BTC commissions from 0.25% to 0.40% of the amount that your referral wagers! Refer more users to play MULTIPLY BTC and start earning big!
You say refer more, but I have a bad experience in referring people.
Long time ago i had a telegram channel, i was encouraging people to join freebitco, i had my own lottery every Sunday between my referrals, they were all my family and people in my country.
Suddenly i saw my referrals had been deleted!
In that time i didn't know there is such place (here) , i was scared too.
Some of my referrals had a lot coins in their account!
I don't know what happened, but I saw my referrals are zero, and they said our accounts is logged out.
I just left the channel, and i hope they don't find me, but my own family were angry with me for some months.
I think there is no way to recover my referrals (they had about 4btc in all accounts), but i don't refer people anymore.

That's not possible. We don't delete accounts, all referrals are for life. If you have the user IDs I'll be happy to investigate.
jr. member
Activity: 244
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We have increased the MULTIPLY BTC commissions from 0.25% to 0.40% of the amount that your referral wagers! Refer more users to play MULTIPLY BTC and start earning big!
You say refer more, but I have a bad experience in referring people.
Long time ago i had a telegram channel, i was encouraging people to join freebitco, i had my own lottery every Sunday between my referrals, they were all my family and people in my country.
Suddenly i saw my referrals had been deleted!
In that time i didn't know there is such place (here) , i was scared too.
Some of my referrals had a lot coins in their account!
I don't know what happened, but I saw my referrals are zero, and they said our accounts is logged out.
I just left the channel, and i hope they don't find me, but my own family were angry with me for some months.
I think there is no way to recover my referrals (they had about 4btc in all accounts), but i don't refer people anymore.
hero member
Activity: 2576
Merit: 882
Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2
We have increased the MULTIPLY BTC commissions from 0.25% to 0.40% of the amount that your referral wagers! Refer more users to play MULTIPLY BTC and start earning big!
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