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Quote from: STT on December 10, 2019, 06:40:29 PM

~ Obviously most would assume 10,000 numbers reflects equally in the chances, do you have any reference or will I find this detail anywhere related to 'provably fair formula'.

It's under the "THIS GAME IS PROVABLY FAIR!" tab right at the top of the page.

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How are rolls calculated?

Two strings are created :
STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 as the secret key, giving us a 128 character hex string.
The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded off to the nearest whole number.
This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.

The payout table also states that possible results are 0-10000, not 1-10000 so both results 00000 and 10000 have half the chance of being rolled than any other number due to rounding.
It's free to play so I don't see any grounds for complaint that people being scammed by this.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 10, 2019, 06:33:32 PM

Quote from: STT on December 10, 2019, 05:38:20 PM

That would be weird if true, theres 10,000 possible whole number returned in the result. To then have 20,000 possible outcomes would be surprising then.

Each time you roll you are generating a decimal, not a whole number. There are over 4 billion possible decimal numbers you can generate and only 0.005% of those decimals can be rounded to 10000.

Yeah, the rounding myth is unknown for this site and i think it's for purpose, to verify do a small check: bet with 1 satoshi on automatic mode with odd of 200 and check what is the actual pay, 196 satoshi for your reference. The real math behind is the real accepted odd is 197.92 and the decimal parts is stripped off hence 197 less 1 for the stake thus your win is 196.

Derrive from how they do the rounding from above example, 9999.9 or 9999.999999, the right part of the decimal will always be stripped off and the chance of getting 10000 is very very slim, you are not getting rounded for 0.9 -> 0.999999 to become 1.0 for being a top 1 winner.

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All of that is connected to 'provably fair formula' which is used by many websites, thats confusing to me. Obviously most would assume 10,000 numbers reflects equally in the chances, do you have any reference or will I find this detail anywhere related to 'provably fair formula'.
I'll look into this further at some point as its generally a good idea to have some understanding of the maths behind any game, even if its free in the case of the faucet roll.

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Quote from: STT on December 10, 2019, 05:38:20 PM

That would be weird if true, theres 10,000 possible whole number returned in the result. To then have 20,000 possible outcomes would be surprising then.

Each time you roll you are generating a decimal, not a whole number. There are over 4 billion possible decimal numbers you can generate and only 0.005% of those decimals can be rounded to 10000.

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That would be weird if true, theres 10,000 possible whole number returned in the result. To then have 20,000 possible outcomes would be surprising then.

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It is so rare that the feeling you get when winning it is worth much more than the money.

Getting lucky like that begs the question can I make it a run Grin

I think you have 99.86% chance of not winning in that case so its super lucky for sure

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This would be equivalent to 4 losses in a row with 50% win chance. Who would be surprised by that?

I would be quite upset on not getting a win there. I knew someone who could flip coins every time for the desired result, thats why the heads or tails should always be called with coin in the air and the coin never caught after the flip. Watch them at a match start and they should follow those rules afaik

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 09, 2019, 11:17:15 PM

Those numbers are off. The odds of rolling 10000 is 0.005000014790566641% or roughly 1 in 20,000 rolls.

The math is correct.
Those are the odds for hitting 10000 after 20000 "consecutive rolls".

If an infinite numbers of people roll 20000 times or they stop rolling when they hit 10000 than 86,4678250517240% of those people got 1 10000 roll.

The odds for hitting 10000 every roll is 1/10000 of course.

Is your formula assuming the odds of rolling 10000 is 1 in 10,000? It's 1 in 20,000 because of the way the provably fair formula works you have half as many chances to roll a 0 or 1000 than every other number.

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Quote from: freebitco.in PR on December 09, 2019, 06:37:16 AM

FreeBitco.in arrived at SiGMA Malta 2019 in style!
The Golden Lamborghini was the talk of the event, making our first appearance at one of the biggest iGaming conventions in the world a tremendous success!

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The Bitcoin Community rocked SiGMA Malta 2019 with FreeBitco.in stealing all the attention.

Well, this surely gives a 1 finger salute to all the people that thought that this draw was a scam. Wink

Do you know how many people attended this

event? This is the kind of publicity that Freebitco.in needs and the girls was also a fine touch to match such a wonderful prize. Grin

I assume the

car was just for show and not actually bought for the competition, because most people will opt for the prize money instead. Huh

Well done

freebitco.in team. Wink

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Quote from: mindrust on December 08, 2019, 02:51:01 PM

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This is never a good plan. I mean living on interest. Doesn't matter if it the bank or freebitco.in where you get interest from. Even collecting rents make more sense than collecting interest. Interest is only a short term solution till you figure out something else, better. That %4 you get from freebitco.in right now, there is no guarantee that it will go on like this forever. I wouldn't plan my life on this.

You guys might be living in a different country, but in my country if you are making 666 dollars per month you could live a very good life and also keep saving. Plus, my fiat to dollar changes all the time and dollar worths more and more of my fiat anyway every single year because we are a country that's run horribly, USA even under Trump didn't do that bad economically, it is a country that even with all its flaws could be the leader of economical world for a long time.

200K with 4% interest could help me live for 50 years easily (by which time I will 100% be dead considering I am unnecessary fat and eat junk food so much that heart attack might around the corner). So, long story short there are better ways of making money, however this one is enough as well, don't need anything better.

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 10, 2019, 08:05:52 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 10, 2019, 05:25:33 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 09, 2019, 11:17:15 PM

Those numbers are off. The odds of rolling 10000 is 0.005000014790566641% or roughly 1 in 20,000 rolls.

The math is correct.
Those are the odds for hitting 10000 after 20000 "consecutive rolls".

If an infinite numbers of people roll 20000 times or they stop rolling when they hit 10000 than 86,4678250517240% of those people got 1 10000 roll.

The odds for hitting 10000 every roll is 1/10000 of course.

Absolutely. I was surprised seeing other numbers here. Winning $200 on free rolls is exactly as likely as hitting 0.00 or 99.99 on a dice site, it's 0.01% win chance. Only I don't think it matters whether the rolls are consecutive or not. IMO it doesn't change anything.

Also, no one should be surprised that after making 20,000 rolls he/she didn't hit it even once. This would be equivalent to 4 losses in a row with 50% win chance. Who would be surprised by that?

The chance of not hitting 10000 in 20,000 rolls is even higher than the chance of four losses in a row.

The chance of not hitting 10000 in 20,000 rolls:
0.9999^20000= 0.135 or 13.5%
0.99995^20000=0.37 or 37.5%

The chance of 4 consecutive losses in a game with 50% win chance:
(0.5)^4=0.0625 or 6.25%

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 10, 2019, 05:25:33 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 09, 2019, 11:17:15 PM

Those numbers are off. The odds of rolling 10000 is 0.005000014790566641% or roughly 1 in 20,000 rolls.

The math is correct.
Those are the odds for hitting 10000 after 20000 "consecutive rolls".

If an infinite numbers of people roll 20000 times or they stop rolling when they hit 10000 than 86,4678250517240% of those people got 1 10000 roll.

The odds for hitting 10000 every roll is 1/10000 of course.

Absolutely. I was surprised seeing other numbers here. Winning $200 on free rolls is exactly as likely as hitting 0.00 or 99.99 on a dice site, it's 0.01% win chance. Only I don't think it matters whether the rolls are consecutive or not. IMO it doesn't change anything.

Also, no one should be surprised that after making 20,000 rolls he/she didn't hit it even once. This would be equivalent to 4 losses in a row with 50% win chance. Who would be surprised by that?

EDIT:

I forgot to mention that I also won the third–bottom prize on free rolls, like @mindrust above, just a few days ago:

It is so rare that the feeling you get when winning it is worth much more than the money.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 09, 2019, 11:17:15 PM

Those numbers are off. The odds of rolling 10000 is 0.005000014790566641% or roughly 1 in 20,000 rolls.

The math is correct.
Those are the odds for hitting 10000 after 20000 "consecutive rolls".

If an infinite numbers of people roll 20000 times or they stop rolling when they hit 10000 than 86,4678250517240% of those people got 1 10000 roll.

The odds for hitting 10000 every roll is 1/10000 of course.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 08, 2019, 06:16:25 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on December 08, 2019, 06:00:00 PM

I made over 20 000 faucet claims and I never won anything bigger.

Well Just for your info Cheesy

Code:

% Rolls
0,0100000000000% 1
0,0199990000000% 2
0,0299970001000% 3
0,0399940004000% 4
0,0499900009999% 5
0,0599850019998% 6
0,0699790034996% 7
0,0799720055993% 8
0,0899640083987% 9
0,0999550119979% 10
9,5167106441444% 1000
18,1277434734450% 2000
25,9192892249089% 3000
32,9693361124998% 4000
39,3484504375222% 5000
45,1204829105730% 6000
50,3432077548775% 7000
55,0689009880098% 8000
59,3448636702149% 9000
63,2138953567030% 10000
86,4678250517240% 20000

with 20000 rolls you had a chance of 86.5% to hit 10000.

Those numbers are off. The odds of rolling 10000 is 0.005000014790566641% or roughly 1 in 20,000 rolls.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on December 09, 2019, 09:48:12 PM

Just imagine on how far freebitco.in made already to have such prize. Clearly getting in earlier has an advantage. They came in community early and became the most famous faucet site. Some faucet got burn already because it's not profitable anymore for owner amd for people but not this site. HI LO game is really a hooker even before and even more when they add jackpot, etc. Now they came into this scene. I know how hard to get it since that prize is really something. Even harder to get than the famous dice site jackpot that I know.

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Others only provide two-digits Sats max while spamming ads like no tomorrow, while FBC never did that.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on December 09, 2019, 07:10:13 PM

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Just imagine on how far freebitco.in made already to have such prize. Clearly getting in earlier has an advantage. They came in community early and became the most famous faucet site. Some faucet got burn already because it's not profitable anymore for owner amd for people but not this site. HI LO game is really a hooker even before and even more when they add jackpot, etc. Now they came into this scene. I know how hard to get it since that prize is really something. Even harder to get than the famous dice site jackpot that I know.

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