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By saving every hash on all of the bets you make and check it one by one until you see something wrong. I don't know much about how provably fair works but from what I know even if their verifier says it's fair there could be a chance or other way to prove that not all rolls are fair. I'm not saying this applies to freebitcoin since I don't have proofs and I barely play on the site.

The verifier is provided for convenience but you can verify your rolls manually or use other tools. How the results are calculated is explained in the provably fair tab and you just need a hex to decimal converter and SHA512 hash generator which can be found online.



Hey Quin, regarding the Multiply Game Bonus, is my understanding on this correct? Assuming I have 0.00256 BTC bonus:

  • I have to wager at least 25 times.
  • Wager total has to achieve (0.00512 * 25)/ 0.128 BTC.
  • Maximum 10% of the wager from the bonus (0.00512) counts. Anything above 0.000512 still counts as 0.000512.

That's pretty much it. You can't cancel the bonus until the wagering requirements are met (that's what I get most support tickets about).


Edited to fix quote.


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Hey Quin, regarding the Multiply Game Bonus, is my understanding on this correct? Assuming I have 0.00256 BTC bonus:

  • I have to wager at least 25 times.
  • Wager total has to achieve (0.00512 * 25)/ 0.128 BTC.
  • Maximum 10% of the wager from the bonus (0.00512) counts. Anything above 0.000512 still counts as 0.000512.


legendary
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And I consider anyone who uses "longevity" as a means to legitimize something as one of those stupid people because longevity doesnt mean something is legit.
True it's not guaranteed that old gambling sites will remain legit but it's rare that you'll see most of them turn to a scam site since they're generating tons of profit everyday.


How could anyone think that freebitco.in is scamming them when provably fair is RIGHT THERE.
By saving every hash on all of the bets you make and check it one by one until you see something wrong. I don't know much about how provably fair works but from what I know even if their verifier says it's fair there could be a chance or other way to prove that not all rolls are fair. I'm not saying this applies to freebitcoin since I don't have proofs and I barely play on the site.
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Am I wrong to think they have provably fair? I mean do they? I am checking the website now because I recall they did provably fair and as I can see they do have provably fair in big punto as well. How could anyone think that freebitco.in is scamming them when provably fair is RIGHT THERE.

Just use that function and see if you are being scammed or not. If you think they are making you lose against the provably fair function then they will be surely going down in a day, everyone will talk about how freebitco.in doesn't follow their own provably fair and scams peoples money from them and everyone will leave the website withdrawing their money. Moreover, that is not happening, do you know why ? Because, they are not. They have a dice game where the game is provably fair and can be PROVED (as in provably) that they are not scamming anyone. You are just unlucky and you want to put the blame on the website.

It's one thing to "say" you use provably fair and quite another to "actually" use it.  Newsflash,  there ARE people who have caught them changing seeds in the Scam Accusations thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/freebitcoin-provably-cheating-5045277).  It's also not necessary to prove anything by use of seed manipulation either.  Large samples can prove the same thing without the need for showing seed changes (which I've done that also confirms what those with changing seeds have claimed).  And it certainly wouldnt take "a day" to "go down".  There are some incredibly stupid people out here (this is where you should see yourself in the mirror if you're remove that duct tape off your face) and this thread is proof of that.  Scams last 100x or more longer than they should.  Take Bitconnect or any of the pyramid smart contract games for example (P3D comes to mind).  They last plenty long enough and are very good proof that just because something is a scam doesnt mean it's going to end in less than a day.  It also doesnt mean that there are not going to be idiots who claim that it's legit even when it's OBVIOUS that it isnt.  Just because freebitco has been around for a long time doesnt mean it's legit.  It just means that there are a lot of incredibly stupid people who use it which in turn allows it to continue running.  And I consider anyone who uses "longevity" as a means to legitimize something as one of those stupid people because longevity doesnt mean something is legit.  The clients of Bernie Madoff could tell you all about how that assumption worked out for them.
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Am I wrong to think they have provably fair? I mean do they? I am checking the website now because I recall they did provably fair and as I can see they do have provably fair in big punto as well. How could anyone think that freebitco.in is scamming them when provably fair is RIGHT THERE.

Just use that function and see if you are being scammed or not. If you think they are making you lose against the provably fair function then they will be surely going down in a day, everyone will talk about how freebitco.in doesn't follow their own provably fair and scams peoples money from them and everyone will leave the website withdrawing their money. Moreover, that is not happening, do you know why ? Because, they are not. They have a dice game where the game is provably fair and can be PROVED (as in provably) that they are not scamming anyone. You are just unlucky and you want to put the blame on the website.
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Loss is expected at 60 times per 1000 times = 6000 satoshis. Win is expected 940 times = 940 satoshis. Nett loss every 1x wager = 5060
This is just an expected loss though, it can always go above or below 60 depending on how lucky/unlucky you are during that session. On the wagering part I agree, i've participated in different wagering contests before and if you have the patience to bet low you can go as high as wagering x100 of your bankroll but those are dice sites with 1% house edge. x30 is not that bad considering their house edge is at 5%.
You are right, you really need to make an effort to bet as much as you can to increase your wagered amount but making your bet not so aggressive at the same time, stay discipline as you main purpose here is just to increase your wager overtime to have the opportunity to enjoy the reward once you are lucky.
 
This promo by the gambling sites is a very popular one, this is to encourage more bettors to play and even if some are lucky enough to win the contest, overall, they are still profitable.

I am putting it in terms of expressed loss for sure, as expected. Just like you would do at any site and at any win chance. I understand all about variance, but like you said, that's your luck factor. If you place enough bets in the long run, expected results will show up very close to actual results.

And yes, 100x is quite easy at 1% house edge sites. In fact I think I've done well over 100x on some sites, taking advantage of bonuses, rain and other things to make the 1% edge very small.
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Loss is expected at 60 times per 1000 times = 6000 satoshis. Win is expected 940 times = 940 satoshis. Nett loss every 1x wager = 5060
This is just an expected loss though, it can always go above or below 60 depending on how lucky/unlucky you are during that session. On the wagering part I agree, i've participated in different wagering contests before and if you have the patience to bet low you can go as high as wagering x100 of your bankroll but those are dice sites with 1% house edge. x30 is not that bad considering their house edge is at 5%.
You are right, you really need to make an effort to bet as much as you can to increase your wagered amount but making your bet not so aggressive at the same time, stay discipline as you main purpose here is just to increase your wager overtime to have the opportunity to enjoy the reward once you are lucky.
 
This promo by the gambling sites is a very popular one, this is to encourage more bettors to play and even if some are lucky enough to win the contest, overall, they are still profitable.
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Loss is expected at 60 times per 1000 times = 6000 satoshis. Win is expected 940 times = 940 satoshis. Nett loss every 1x wager = 5060
This is just an expected loss though, it can always go above or below 60 depending on how lucky/unlucky you are during that session. On the wagering part I agree, i've participated in different wagering contests before and if you have the patience to bet low you can go as high as wagering x100 of your bankroll but those are dice sites with 1% house edge. x30 is not that bad considering their house edge is at 5%.
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100,000 satoshis. If you bet 100 satoshis 1000 times at 1.01 = 1 x wager. Chance to win is 94.06%... blah blah blah "ALL Da:"......[snip]

Go ahead and try it "all day" LMFAO.  You'll lose on the 4th bet or so.  You forget that since the "Wagering Contest" has been going on,  freebitco has been cheating on all high win rate percentages (if not all the odds for that matter).  Where as previously you could roll maybe 10 in a row and not lose,  now you're lucky to roll 3 in a row before you hit a loss.  And once you hit that loss,  you lose everything regardless of how many times you've won because you werent winning anything at all,  you were just taking a risk that they were going to 1.  Take everything or 2.  you win 0 if you're using 94.02% odds.  This was done on purpose right around the same time that freebitco realized people were abusing the wagering contest with the higher Odds (or perhaps they anticipated it and changed before actually starting it,  point is,  it's been noticed).  If your roll habits meets their requirements,  you are going to be cheated upon.  It's that simple.  This has all been proven btw since the seeds are known to change after rolls (its all in the scam accusations threads) along with a ton of other cheating that I've uncovered myself unrelated to the dice rolls.

You cant back up anything you say but I sure as shit can backup everything I say.  Have fun with your Sea Shell Seeds changing site where you like to make unrealistic ego boosting wagering claims Cheesy  Like I said before,  put up or shutup.  You've proved nothing and actually deflect any possibility of such.  If you want to see how it's REALLY done,  watch my stream where I DO prove what I say.  It's running 24/7 every single day and proves all you clowns are complete idiots.  See,  the difference between me and plebs like yourself is that I dont give two shits if the site cheats on rolls here and there or not.  They'd have to turn it up a lot more than a notch in order for it to affect anything I do.  But let me get one thing straight,  while I dont care that they cheat,  I do not approve of them lying about it with their "Provably fair" claims since thats 100% completely false.  All they have to do for me to stop bad mouthing them and pointing out all the cheating is to shit can TheQuack,  thats number one,  and remove the "Provably Fair" claims from their site,  threads, and all marketing that they do.  I might settle for just shit canning TheQuack though.  Depends I guess.  Maybe a good bump in referrals would be a compromise.
I agree with you, they cheat in everything now, starting with the little things and ending with provably fair
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100,000 satoshis. If you bet 100 satoshis 1000 times at 1.01 = 1 x wager. Chance to win is 94.06%... blah blah blah "ALL Da:"......[snip]

Go ahead and try it "all day" LMFAO.  You'll lose on the 4th bet or so.  You forget that since the "Wagering Contest" has been going on,  freebitco has been cheating on all high win rate percentages (if not all the odds for that matter).  Where as previously you could roll maybe 10 in a row and not lose,  now you're lucky to roll 3 in a row before you hit a loss.  And once you hit that loss,  you lose everything regardless of how many times you've won because you werent winning anything at all,  you were just taking a risk that they were going to 1.  Take everything or 2.  you win 0 if you're using 94.02% odds.  This was done on purpose right around the same time that freebitco realized people were abusing the wagering contest with the higher Odds (or perhaps they anticipated it and changed before actually starting it,  point is,  it's been noticed).  If your roll habits meets their requirements,  you are going to be cheated upon.  It's that simple.  This has all been proven btw since the seeds are known to change after rolls (its all in the scam accusations threads) along with a ton of other cheating that I've uncovered myself unrelated to the dice rolls.

You cant back up anything you say but I sure as shit can backup everything I say.  Have fun with your Sea Shell Seeds changing site where you like to make unrealistic ego boosting wagering claims Cheesy  Like I said before,  put up or shutup.  You've proved nothing and actually deflect any possibility of such.  If you want to see how it's REALLY done,  watch my stream where I DO prove what I say.  It's running 24/7 every single day and proves all you clowns are complete idiots.  See,  the difference between me and plebs like yourself is that I dont give two shits if the site cheats on rolls here and there or not.  They'd have to turn it up a lot more than a notch in order for it to affect anything I do.  But let me get one thing straight,  while I dont care that they cheat,  I do not approve of them lying about it with their "Provably fair" claims since thats 100% completely false.  All they have to do for me to stop bad mouthing them and pointing out all the cheating is to shit can TheQuack,  thats number one,  and remove the "Provably Fair" claims from their site,  threads, and all marketing that they do.  I might settle for just shit canning TheQuack though.  Depends I guess.  Maybe a good bump in referrals would be a compromise.
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win a jackpot and get account lock!!!
thanks, bro!!

Are you related to Phoenix_71Rus  by any chance?

Good day . tell me - within a few days I can’t log into my account. what is the problem ? or why my account is blocked as I understand it. ID 10632981

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I banned 300 of your accounts already and you posted this:


I want to tell my story, how I was deceived by the site freebitco.in. like many people I have an account on this site, woke up today, wanted to go to the site, and the account is blocked. restore password is obtained.even in the mail letters do not come.  I kept some bitcoins in my account. you took them ? scammers?
my id 7053807

But as you prompted me to take a second look I just found and banned another 381 of them. Creating alt accounts on the forum isn't fooling anyone. One thief with 299 fake referrals cheating from us also signed up another 381 fake referrals to one of them.


It's not hard to win a jackpot when you sign up thousands of bots and just wager what you stole from the faucet. I'm making it a bit harder to get paid for doing it now.




I see that many still robbed on the site
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Judging from my own very small balance and wagering, I generally manage to wager around 30x my deposit minimum before busting, and that's without a conservative strategy. Conservative should be close to 90x.... [snip non-sense stuffs]


I'll take that bet and DOUBLE it.  If you put 1 BTC into the Bonus Account (that has a requirement of 25x wagering before you can get the account balance) and you actually win it,  I'll give you 2BTC.  Just record it on Dlive in a live stream for proof.  You're not wagering anywhere near 30x let alone 90x.  You lie.  If you cant back it up,  dont make stupid claims.

That's not a bet and I'm not going to prove anything to you, because you don't have any intention to do anything other than say what you want us to believe. Anyone can read this thread and find all your posts, and they'll understand why.

100,000 satoshis. If you bet 100 satoshis 1000 times at 1.01 = 1 x wager. Chance to win is 94.06%. We round down to 94%.
Loss is expected at 60 times per 1000 times = 6000 satoshis. Win is expected 940 times = 940 satoshis. Nett loss every 1x wager = 5060
At 1k times, you also get 1k bonus, which unlocks at next 100k wagering. So nett loss every 1x wager = 4060

Rough calculation, you can do this all day and get about 25x (100k/4k). But conservatively, I could just aim for 1 sat martingale til I get 1% of deposit, and then do above strategy til back to original deposit. Rinse and repeat. Eventually I bust yes, but I get my 30x quite OK, the bigger the deposit the easier, and I deposit more than 100k.
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win a jackpot and get account lock!!!
thanks, bro!!

Are you related to Phoenix_71Rus  by any chance?

Good day . tell me - within a few days I can’t log into my account. what is the problem ? or why my account is blocked as I understand it. ID 10632981

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I banned 300 of your accounts already and you posted this:


I want to tell my story, how I was deceived by the site freebitco.in. like many people I have an account on this site, woke up today, wanted to go to the site, and the account is blocked. restore password is obtained.even in the mail letters do not come.  I kept some bitcoins in my account. you took them ? scammers?
my id 7053807

But as you prompted me to take a second look I just found and banned another 381 of them. Creating alt accounts on the forum isn't fooling anyone. One thief with 299 fake referrals cheating from us also signed up another 381 fake referrals to one of them.


It's not hard to win a jackpot when you sign up thousands of bots and just wager what you stole from the faucet. I'm making it a bit harder to get paid for doing it now.




not. I am not connected with it. Get freerolls and leave them in multiplayer - theft? Without an evidentiary charge of theft. Apparently, you are so much deceived since you are ready to blame ordinary people for stealing. good luck to you
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LOOOL account is blocked 17749392
win a jackpot and get account lock!!!
thanks, bro!!

Are you related to Phoenix_71Rus  by any chance?

Good day . tell me - within a few days I can’t log into my account. what is the problem ? or why my account is blocked as I understand it. ID 10632981

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I banned 300 of your accounts already and you posted this:


I want to tell my story, how I was deceived by the site freebitco.in. like many people I have an account on this site, woke up today, wanted to go to the site, and the account is blocked. restore password is obtained.even in the mail letters do not come.  I kept some bitcoins in my account. you took them ? scammers?
my id 7053807

But as you prompted me to take a second look I just found and banned another 381 of them. Creating alt accounts on the forum isn't fooling anyone. One thief with 299 fake referrals cheating from us also signed up another 381 fake referrals to one of them.


It's not hard to win a jackpot when you sign up thousands of bots and just wager what you stole from the faucet. I'm making it a bit harder to get paid for doing it now.


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Judging from my own very small balance and wagering, I generally manage to wager around 30x my deposit minimum before busting, and that's without a conservative strategy. Conservative should be close to 90x.... [snip non-sense stuffs]


I'll take that bet and DOUBLE it.  If you put 1 BTC into the Bonus Account (that has a requirement of 25x wagering before you can get the account balance) and you actually win it,  I'll give you 2BTC.  Just record it on Dlive in a live stream for proof.  You're not wagering anywhere near 30x let alone 90x.  You lie.  If you cant back it up,  dont make stupid claims.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

He has WAGERED half a million dollars, doesn't mean he owns it. Even if you owned 138 BTC you can't manipulate anything, not even on 1 exchange much less global BTC price!

Judging from my own very small balance and wagering, I generally manage to wager around 30x my deposit minimum before busting, and that's without a conservative strategy. Conservative should be close to 90x so maybe he has 50k worth of BTC. Anyway, if the guy is smart, he is wagering conservatively and taking advantage of RP bonus plus Wager bonus to reduce his 5% house edge to about 4%. I suppose he will maximize his free rolls too, so maybe that even goes to 3.5% With the prize of 10k, that's 1.5% house edge. With lotteries, that's back to 1%, maybe even lower and close to 0.



30x sounds about right for stratetgyless gambling.
He could even be in profit from his rolls or maybe did a strategy of just gambling with the profits and took out the rest.

It'd tske about 50BTC to get the coinbase pro price up by about a dollar. And there there'll be a load ofblimit orders higher up so I'd say a few thousand Bitcoin would be needed to push the price up  by a hundred dollars or so.
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The number one spot is taken with 138 bitcoins wagered. To give you an idea of how much that is, 138 bitcoins totals to 500 thousand dollars. Someone wagered about 500 thousand dollars in gambling in order to reach the number one spot that will be getting 10 thousand dollars in rewards.

I am not saying anyone who gambles 500 thousand dollars loses money, after all the house edge is small and you can even be lucky and even won money during that much gambling and maybe that person will get 10 thousand dollars on top of the money they already made but risking 500 thousand dollars to make 10 thousand dollars sounds crazy. That person and all the following people there with 125 and so forth must be really into gambling.

I have not gambled anything more than 0.05 so far so it sounds so crazy to think about how much I would have to bet my max comfortable amount to actually reach to point they are right now. I applaud them for their courage and hope they will tie the house edge with this promotion at least and make profits.

That's one massive whale. Imagine how much funds he/ she has to actually manipulate the prices of BTC.

He has WAGERED half a million dollars, doesn't mean he owns it. Even if you owned 138 BTC you can't manipulate anything, not even on 1 exchange much less global BTC price!

Judging from my own very small balance and wagering, I generally manage to wager around 30x my deposit minimum before busting, and that's without a conservative strategy. Conservative should be close to 90x so maybe he has 50k worth of BTC. Anyway, if the guy is smart, he is wagering conservatively and taking advantage of RP bonus plus Wager bonus to reduce his 5% house edge to about 4%. I suppose he will maximize his free rolls too, so maybe that even goes to 3.5% With the prize of 10k, that's 1.5% house edge. With lotteries, that's back to 1%, maybe even lower and close to 0.

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The number one spot is taken with 138 bitcoins wagered. To give you an idea of how much that is, 138 bitcoins totals to 500 thousand dollars. Someone wagered about 500 thousand dollars in gambling in order to reach the number one spot that will be getting 10 thousand dollars in rewards.

I am not saying anyone who gambles 500 thousand dollars loses money, after all the house edge is small and you can even be lucky and even won money during that much gambling and maybe that person will get 10 thousand dollars on top of the money they already made but risking 500 thousand dollars to make 10 thousand dollars sounds crazy. That person and all the following people there with 125 and so forth must be really into gambling.

I have not gambled anything more than 0.05 so far so it sounds so crazy to think about how much I would have to bet my max comfortable amount to actually reach to point they are right now. I applaud them for their courage and hope they will tie the house edge with this promotion at least and make profits.

That's one massive whale. Imagine how much funds he/ she has to actually manipulate the prices of BTC.
legendary
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The number one spot is taken with 138 bitcoins wagered. To give you an idea of how much that is, 138 bitcoins totals to 500 thousand dollars. Someone wagered about 500 thousand dollars in gambling in order to reach the number one spot that will be getting 10 thousand dollars in rewards.

I am not saying anyone who gambles 500 thousand dollars loses money, after all the house edge is small and you can even be lucky and even won money during that much gambling and maybe that person will get 10 thousand dollars on top of the money they already made but risking 500 thousand dollars to make 10 thousand dollars sounds crazy. That person and all the following people there with 125 and so forth must be really into gambling.

I have not gambled anything more than 0.05 so far so it sounds so crazy to think about how much I would have to bet my max comfortable amount to actually reach to point they are right now. I applaud them for their courage and hope they will tie the house edge with this promotion at least and make profits.
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