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TheQuin

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Quote from: omonuyak on February 05, 2019, 02:39:36 PM

Of a truth I don't really know how this freebitcoin site work. I could still remember making around 0.00028bit in 2017 but I was unable to withdraw the money. My account was not credited after reaching the that amount and I know that the problem was from me.

The minimum withdrawal is 0.0003 BTC so your problem was that you gave up just a little too early.

omonuyak

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Of a truth I don't really know how this freebitcoin site work. I could still remember making around 0.00028bit in 2017 but I was unable to withdraw the money. My account was not credited after reaching the that amount and I know that the problem was from me.

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Quote from: Sines1991 on February 05, 2019, 11:40:23 AM

Sir, perhaps each of us is right in his own way from his own point of view on this situation. But I'm not asking you to return me the entire amount (about 3 BTC). Check all my accounts for the number of deposits, subtract what I lost from the remaining amount, I ask only 50%, and the rest will remain on the development of the project. Wouldn't that be a fair decision for both sides?

I love watching people cry. Cry more pls, cry more. You got raped in a game you thought you could win. GG NO RE, raped off the interwebz.

Sines1991

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Quote from: TheQuin on February 04, 2019, 07:52:21 PM

Quote from: Hlavson on February 04, 2019, 03:04:44 PM

How much is reward lowered when playing FREE BTC? I have done about 50 rolls and reward is now 50 SAT. At the beginning was 58.
Also my friend was able to achieve 2-5% bonus with every lottery ticket, but for me one ticket is about 0,01%. Can someone explain this system?

The full base reward is the Bitcoin equivalent of $0.002. After being given a chance to build a roll history accounts that do not meet balance and/or wagering requirement gradually have their base reward lowered until it reaches 33.5% of full base reward. If you don't want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to receive the full base reward.
The percentage towards the next Free BTC bonus is calculated on a ratio of wagered amount against free winnings so you must have won a lot more from free-rolls than your friend has.

Quote from: Sines1991 on February 04, 2019, 12:45:17 PM

What I lost, I'm not asking you to give me back. I ask you to return what is left of my deposits.

That is correct. You were not asking for it back you were trying to steal it back by abusing the faucet and referral program.

Sir, perhaps each of us is right in his own way from his own point of view on this situation. But I'm not asking you to return me the entire amount (about 3 BTC). Check all my accounts for the number of deposits, subtract what I lost from the remaining amount, I ask only 50%, and the rest will remain on the development of the project. Wouldn't that be a fair decision for both sides?

TheQuin

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Quote from: Hlavson on February 05, 2019, 01:57:59 AM

Quote from: TheQuin on February 04, 2019, 07:52:21 PM

The full base reward is the Bitcoin equivalent of $0.002. After being given a chance to build a roll history accounts that do not meet balance and/or wagering requirement gradually have their base reward lowered until it reaches 33.5% of full base reward. If you don't want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to receive the full base reward.
The percentage towards the next Free BTC bonus is calculated on a ratio of wagered amount against free winnings so you must have won a lot more from free-rolls than your friend has.

Thank you for explanation. Is there any requirement how funds have to be earned? If i can reach $50 with referrals and free rolls only, the bonus reward will be activated? I am just curious why such important information about full bonus reward after reaching $50 is not on the site.

There is no restriction on how you get the balance.

After having gained a few months of experience answering the support contact form messages and emails, rewriting the FAQ is definitely on my todo list. I just need to find the time to do it. The reason they are not well documented is that these things were added on the fly to combat abuse, so they were done in a hurry.

Hlavson

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Quote from: TheQuin on February 04, 2019, 07:52:21 PM

The full base reward is the Bitcoin equivalent of $0.002. After being given a chance to build a roll history accounts that do not meet balance and/or wagering requirement gradually have their base reward lowered until it reaches 33.5% of full base reward. If you don't want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to receive the full base reward.
The percentage towards the next Free BTC bonus is calculated on a ratio of wagered amount against free winnings so you must have won a lot more from free-rolls than your friend has.

Thank you for explanation. Is there any requirement how funds have to be earned? If i can reach $50 with referrals and free rolls only, the bonus reward will be activated? I am just curious why such important information about full bonus reward after reaching $50 is not on the site.

TheQuin

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Quote from: Hlavson on February 04, 2019, 03:04:44 PM

How much is reward lowered when playing FREE BTC? I have done about 50 rolls and reward is now 50 SAT. At the beginning was 58.
Also my friend was able to achieve 2-5% bonus with every lottery ticket, but for me one ticket is about 0,01%. Can someone explain this system?

The full base reward is the Bitcoin equivalent of $0.002. After being given a chance to build a roll history accounts that do not meet balance and/or wagering requirement gradually have their base reward lowered until it reaches 33.5% of full base reward. If you don't want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to receive the full base reward.
The percentage towards the next Free BTC bonus is calculated on a ratio of wagered amount against free winnings so you must have won a lot more from free-rolls than your friend has.

Quote from: Sines1991 on February 04, 2019, 12:45:17 PM

What I lost, I'm not asking you to give me back. I ask you to return what is left of my deposits.

That is correct. You were not asking for it back you were trying to steal it back by abusing the faucet and referral program.

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Quote from: Hlavson on February 04, 2019, 03:04:44 PM

How much is reward lowered when playing FREE BTC? I have done about 50 rolls and reward is now 50 SAT. At the beginning was 58.
Also my friend was able to achieve 2-5% bonus with every lottery ticket, but for me one ticket is about 0,01%. Can someone explain this system?

The free roll is tied to the USD value of BTC, the top free roll lucky number payout (hitting lucky number 10000) is always valued at USD $200, and the tiers of payout scale accordingly: USD $20, USD $2, USD $0.20, and so on. The value of BTC changing is what turned the lowest payout from 58 satoshi to 50 satoshi.

As for the bonus, don't even bother going there, it's not worth it.

Hlavson

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How much is reward lowered when playing FREE BTC? I have done about 50 rolls and reward is now 50 SAT. At the beginning was 58.
Also my friend was able to achieve 2-5% bonus with every lottery ticket, but for me one ticket is about 0,01%. Can someone explain this system?

r3db0ne

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Ahhh! first site I used to trial out the gambling..
Took a decent amount from me.

Was always amazed at how some users had < 100 lottery tickets and won the bigger > 1btc prize!

Even beating all the other user with millions of 'lottery tickets' lol.

It was fun though.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on February 04, 2019, 02:08:42 PM

It means if you want to profit from this you need to be so lucky that something that is one in ten thousand chance should happen before five thousand bets are over. Hence I think playing regular hi and lo without adding jackpot is much more fun to me, I do not add extra loss to the account which allows me to win or lose with a better odd betting

The current jackpot is likely an artifact from the jackpot contest that seems to have been removed

I don't know if this contest was ever available on FreeBitco.in but on FreeDoge.co.in you could participate in the jackpot contest where you rolled for the jackpot against other players. For example, if you participated in it and hit the jackpot (08888), you were given the whole amount paid by other contest participants in this round. I don't know why the show was canceled but with it the jackpot made sense playing

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I feel like gambling for the jackpot is really not that worthy, after all it all depends on the jackpot multiplier you pay, you can pay 2 satoshi or you can pay 0.000125 bitcoin for jackpot and no matter which one you do in the end the cost would be higher than the effort, if you play 2 satoshi and try to hit it, even if that 1 in 10000 comes in at around 10kth mark that means you must have spent 20k satoshi to get there whereas you get like 10k satoshi in return only.

It means if you want to profit from this you need to be so lucky that something that is one in ten thousand chance should happen before five thousand bets are over. Hence I think playing regular hi and lo without adding jackpot is much more fun to me, I do not add extra loss to the account which allows me to win or lose with a better odd betting.

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Quote from: Sines1991 on February 04, 2019, 12:45:17 PM

What I lost, I'm not asking you to give me back. I ask you to return what is left of my deposits.

LMFAO, in bitcoin there is no such thing as "My deposits" unless it uses multisig. Get lost kid. Not your keys, not your bitcoin. Simple. If you dont believe in that idea, go use a site that uses multisig with 3rd or more party arbiters (if you find one let me know).

Sines1991

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Quote from: TheQuin on February 02, 2019, 10:06:35 PM

Quote from: Sines1991 on February 02, 2019, 10:24:20 AM

Why is everyone so hard you discuss the question about the martingale system, but no one can see that the site freebitco.in particular Mr. TheQuin, was stolen from me about 3 BTC? Is everyone believes that it is correct to steal deposits from a user who has several accounts, but who has not suffered any losses or freebitco site.in no particular Mr. TheQuin? Really it is impossible in this situation to solve a problem that to both parties it was good. Return at least 50% of the deposits, and leave the rest to the site freebitco.in for further development. I want to hear your opinion!!! Speak out on this situation

It is an open forum and they discuss what interests them. You've already been told countless times and heard people's opinions. Nobody thinks that if someone loses at gambling they are entitled to cheat the casino in return. I didn't steal anything from you, I caught you cheating free-rolls and referral income. Nobody thinks cheats are entitled to a refund. I can assure you no cheat that got away with a profit ever refunded anything to us.

What I lost, I'm not asking you to give me back. I ask you to return what is left of my deposits.

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 04, 2019, 09:01:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

To get the Jackpot 08888 is not difficult as long as you want to try it on each account.
In a way :
1. Deposit the 30K satosi balance
2. Play multiply by copying the Jackpot table
3, If 3 x of the game has not been obtained, then move the balance to the next account.

And in this way, 95% succeed, unless (TheQuin) considers it a cheating game. and what happens is the account will be blocked

The odds for you to win the jackpot will always remain the same which is 1:10000 cmiiw. Changing accounts won't increase your chances of winning if hitting the jackpot was that easy then the site would've lost a lot of money by now. And multi accounting is not allowed (it's stated in their terms) they're mostly used to abuse the site.

The only way I can think of abusing the site is by claiming faucet from multiple accounts. Just curious if it still applies for a person who is paying with his deposit balance and playing for jackpot hits from multiple accounts? (Just wondering..)

I doublt someone will do change their IP address everytime he/she wants to claim the faucet coz claiming from it is only once every 60mins from the same IP. It would be a waste of time changing from one IP to another just for few satoshis

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 04, 2019, 09:01:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

To get the Jackpot 08888 is not difficult as long as you want to try it on each account.
In a way :
1. Deposit the 30K satosi balance
2. Play multiply by copying the Jackpot table
3, If 3 x of the game has not been obtained, then move the balance to the next account.

And in this way, 95% succeed, unless (TheQuin) considers it a cheating game. and what happens is the account will be blocked

The odds for you to win the jackpot will always remain the same which is 1:10000 cmiiw. Changing accounts won't increase your chances of winning if hitting the jackpot was that easy then the site would've lost a lot of money by now. And multi accounting is not allowed (it's stated in their terms) they're mostly used to abuse the site.

The only way I can think of abusing the site is by claiming faucet from multiple accounts. Just curious if it still applies for a person who is paying with his deposit balance and playing for jackpot hits from multiple accounts? (Just wondering..)

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 04, 2019, 09:01:29 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

To get the Jackpot 08888 is not difficult as long as you want to try it on each account.
In a way :
1. Deposit the 30K satosi balance
2. Play multiply by copying the Jackpot table
3, If 3 x of the game has not been obtained, then move the balance to the next account.

And in this way, 95% succeed, unless (TheQuin) considers it a cheating game. and what happens is the account will be blocked

The odds for you to win the jackpot will always remain the same which is 1:10000 cmiiw. Changing accounts won't increase your chances of winning if hitting the jackpot was that easy then the site would've lost a lot of money by now. And multi accounting is not allowed (it's stated in their terms) they're mostly used to abuse the site

While changing accounts won't increase your chances, it can help increase your betting speeds if you are auto-betting. I mean running a few sessions in parallel. Why you would ever need that I don't know (perhaps, for more reward points or maybe something else). On the other hand, if you have access to a number of white IP addresses, you can hunt for higher tiers apart from taking what you receive from free rolls anyway. To everyone, I'm in no way and in no case endorsing such practices

They are discussed here for informational and educational purposes only

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Quote from: ?? on ??

To get the Jackpot 08888 is not difficult as long as you want to try it on each account.
In a way :
1. Deposit the 30K satosi balance
2. Play multiply by copying the Jackpot table
3, If 3 x of the game has not been obtained, then move the balance to the next account.

And in this way, 95% succeed, unless (TheQuin) considers it a cheating game. and what happens is the account will be blocked

The odds for you to win the jackpot will always remain the same which is 1:10000 cmiiw. Changing accounts won't increase your chances of winning if hitting the jackpot was that easy then the site would've lost a lot of money by now. And multi accounting is not allowed (it's stated in their terms) they're mostly used to abuse the site.

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Quote from: deisik on February 03, 2019, 01:12:58 AM

Quote from: docthusinh on February 02, 2019, 07:59:58 PM

For example, your 0.3 btc / 30 mil satoshi, say you are betting on 0.4% win chance or 237.50 odd. How big was the losing you've got at the time you were bursted? if you were able to scale this amount to withstand around 2800 losing streak, it is likely you would win in between

I've written about that above

To repeat, you either earn dust with losing streaks that are too long or end up burst pretty soon. I guess with 0.4% win chance and a losing streak of 2800, it would be equal to a win chance of 0.4x100=40% and a losing streak of 2800/100=28 rolls. But 28 losing rolls is not worth the risk as at any point you risk your whole amount while earning only dust when you win. Basically, no matter how you tweak the odds and amounts, it can always be reduced to these simple numbers (to make things easier to understand)

I agree with your calculations. Personally, I see it exactly like this. If you have, say, 0.01 on your balance, you can bet it all at once with 94.06% win chance and get 0.0001 in the case of winning(on a dice site with house edge as it is on Freebitco.in). Or you can do classic martingale with 1 satoshi as initial bet and you'll get approximately 0.0001 in profit after 100,000 rolls or so, but your chances of succeeding in that are exactly the same as with betting 0.01 at once with 94.06% win chance.

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Quote from: TheQuin on February 04, 2019, 02:11:41 AM

Quote from: deisik on February 04, 2019, 01:35:37 AM

In other words, your odds of hitting 10000 are far from being 1:10000 (as you would intuitively expect). I rolled a zillion times myself and never hit the two highest numbers. So, you know, you wouldn't actually be surprised to see something like that with the jackpot as well. If anyone wants to check how things really are, you are welcome

The odds of hitting 10000 are actually 20000:1 due to rounding. The possible outcomes are not 1 to 10000 they are 0 to 10000 with 0 and 10000 having half the chance being rolled than all the other numbers. Have a look at the how the rolls are calculated section on the provably fair tab.
As for the endless discussions from people saying it can't be fair because they didn't roll it in xxx attempts, that is just crying about variance

I actually hit 0 once

But I didn't hit 10k or the second best tier ever. I'm not crying as I don't roll as often as I used to a few years ago. All in all, it can be said that I don't particularly care. Just in case, when people discussed this issue in the past, it didn't look like they were crying either. And I don't remember wetsuit coming up with a rebuttal or anything to that tune, so it was kinda accepted. Anyway, if anyone is curious beyond just idle talk, the thread is not self-moderated, thus you can find all the relevant posts on this topic here

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