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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on July 14, 2018, 11:02:44 AM

I made a withdraw this morning, but my email was fucked up.

Is there anyways I can get the system to send me another confirmation email?

Thanks!

The confirmation link is only valid for one hour. After that, it will automatically cancel the withdrawal and add the amount back to your balance so you can try again.

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I made a withdraw this morning, but my email was fucked up.

Is there anyways I can get the system to send me another confirmation email?

Thanks!

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Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 10:33:59 AM

Fix the quote, don't make me part of the argument, I wouldn't be arguing on you side in this instance.

Done. Sorry about that I hit the Edit button instead of the Quote button and your quote was the first line in that post.

Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 10:33:59 AM

So I have my chipmixer address with 0.394BTC. Another cold storage with 0.125BTC in it and 0.1 in Hashnest? Anything else you want to chuck a stick at and get the right answer to?

I'm trying to point out that it is an individual's right to decide for themselves if they want to make public what they own.

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Quote from: TheQuin on July 14, 2018, 07:50:18 AM

Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 07:24:28 AM

How much does wetsuit have, this says ~300BTC: https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/address/1Fu3iBR2EMQWeYGi3XvrPmcPUkne8ZWj9h

That's the address that we sweep the deposits to. There are a lot more addresses.

How do you have?

So I have my chipmixer address with 0.394BTC. Another cold storage with 0.125BTC in it and 0.1 in Hashnest? Anything else you want to chuck a stick at and get the right answer to?

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Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 07:24:28 AM

I'm fairly sure coinbase filed their UK tax return a few years ago and claimed to hold £3000000. If you secure your money well enough then you're fine.

It's a lot easier to do with a large organisation. As an example Bitfinex user a 4 from 7 multsig system with staff in diverse geographical locations.

Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 07:24:28 AM

And if you properly encrypt stuff and keep it secure enough then it shouldn't cause too much of an issue.

That's just based on his weakness though.
If you're strong enough or have a strong resistance to drugs then you're alright.

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Quote from: broke_tradah on July 14, 2018, 08:43:17 AM

IDK what you are reading but from where I am sitting I do not see an address. A country listing isnt an address and the last update to the whois record was literally just a few months ago in jan. All I see is a domaain pointing at cloudflare and registered from enom with an update to change the registrant country and either town or county. There is certainly no address there like you claimed.

I didn't claim there was a full address. I said I found it when I was searching ages ago. Read again:

Quote from: jackg on July 13, 2018, 06:52:41 PM

It's nothing new. If you do a whois lookup of the domain it tells you it is registered in Tortola, VG. I can't remember where I found it now but I found that address when I searched for it years ago.

You should learn English and/or to read before calling me a liar.

The domain isn't 'pointing at Cloudflare' it's nameserver is hosted by Cloudflare. That has nothing to do with registration or ownership of the domain. As always you are keen to talk about things you have no knowledge of.

Fix the quote, don't make me part of the argument, I wouldn't be arguing on you side in this instance.

I have 0.0014 in coinbase also and 0.01 on yobit.net.

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Quote from: broke_tradah on July 14, 2018, 08:43:17 AM

IDK what you are reading but from where I am sitting I do not see an address. A country listing isnt an address and the last update to the whois record was literally just a few months ago in jan. All I see is a domaain pointing at cloudflare and registered from enom with an update to change the registrant country and either town or county. There is certainly no address there like you claimed.

I didn't claim there was a full address. I said I found it when I was searching ages ago. Read again:

Quote from: TheQuin on July 14, 2018, 12:54:38 AM

It's nothing new. If you do a whois lookup of the domain it tells you it is registered in Tortola, VG. I can't remember where I found it now but I found that address when I searched for it years ago.

You should learn English and/or to read before calling me a liar.

The domain isn't 'pointing at Cloudflare' its nameserver is hosted by Cloudflare. That has nothing to do with registration or ownership of the domain. As always you are keen to talk about things you have no knowledge of.

Edited to fit quote header.

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IDK what you are reading but from where I am sitting I do not see an address. A country listing isnt an address and the last update to the whois record was literally just a few months ago in jan. All I see is a domaain pointing at cloudflare and registered from enom with an update to change the registrant country and either town or county. There is certainly no address there like you claimed.

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Quote from: broke_tradah on July 14, 2018, 08:21:53 AM

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It's nothing new. If you do a whois lookup of the domain it tells you it is registered in Tortola, VG.

More lies. The site uses cloudflare you complete retard. And it has done so "for several years". Therefore any clown that looks up the whois will only see cloudflares info. The same goes for that finance company btw, or any other site that uses cloudflare correctly. So you did NOT see it with whois no matter what excuse you come up with.

Idiot.

https://www.whois.net/

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Domain Name: FREEBITCO.IN
Registry Domain ID: D7766450-AFIN
Registrar WHOIS Server:
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2018-01-14T12:11:53Z
Creation Date: 2013-10-10T19:29:11Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2025-10-10T19:29:11Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: eNom, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok
Registrant Organization:
Registrant State/Province: Tortola
Registrant Country: VG
Name Server: TOM.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: DINA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-06-01T21:44:03Z <<<

Only the nameservers are run by Cloudflare, the registration belongs to us.

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It's nothing new. If you do a whois lookup of the domain it tells you it is registered in Tortola, VG.

More lies. The site uses cloudflare you complete retard. And it has done so "for several years". Therefore any clown that looks up the whois will only see cloudflares info. The same goes for that finance company btw, or any other site that uses cloudflare correctly. So you did NOT see it with whois no matter what excuse you come up with.

Wetsuit has well over 8000btc. 300 is just the hot wallet.

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Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 07:24:28 AM

How much does wetsuit have, this says ~300BTC: https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/address/1Fu3iBR2EMQWeYGi3XvrPmcPUkne8ZWj9h

That's the address that we sweep the deposits to. There are a lot more addresses.

How do you have?

Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 07:24:28 AM

I'm fairly sure coinbase filed their UK tax return a few years ago and claimed to hold £3000000. If you secure your money well enough then you're fine.

It's a lot easier to do with a large organisation. As an example Bitfinex user a 4 from 7 multsig system with staff in diverse geographical locations.

Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 07:24:28 AM

And if you properly encrypt stuff and keep it secure enough then it shouldn't cause too much of an issue.

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Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 06:02:39 AM

And yes, there are a few primdice owners (for example) who have given out their full names before now. Why can't wetsuit do the same, what's he in fear of?
It would be considered more trustworthy as a site if you both offered your full identities.

It is not something I have or will ask wetsuit as I think if he didn't want to be anonymous he wouldn't be.

From a personal perspective, I use services like ChipMixer so that nobody knows how much Bitcoin I have. If you own a site holding over 1200 BTC just in user deposits that isn't an option. Do a Google news search on 'bitcoin kidnapping".

How much does wetsuit have, this says ~300BTC: https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/address/1Fu3iBR2EMQWeYGi3XvrPmcPUkne8ZWj9h

And if you properly encrypt stuff and keep it secure enough then it shouldn't cause too much of an issue.

I'm fairly sure coinbase filed their UK tax return a few years ago and claimed to hold £3000000. If you secure your money well enough then you're fine.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 14, 2018, 06:39:52 AM

Are you going to keep your withdrawal fees as low as they are today or will they be a bit higher? Btw Shapeshift charges 0.0005 BTC for any operation, which is not that small. I hope your fees will be much less than that.

I really don't any information as nothing has been decided yet. I don't think adding more coins or features will have any effect on withdrawal fees. I imagine the main use of the exchange will be people changing what the get from the faucet and making small deposits from other altcoin faucets so I can't imagine a minimum fee anywhere near that high. I use another gambling site that has many coins and they charge through the spread rather than a fee. I think that would be a good way do it here as well.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 12, 2018, 03:27:48 AM

I'm looking forward to starting trading on your exchange. Are you planning to create better conditions for users than on other exchanges? Please share some details beforehand if you can. Your site is a trusted place and I think many traders would move to your platform if conditions were better there.

It's going to be an exchange to compete with those made for trading. Although everything is still in the planning stage wetsuit said he intended it to .be an alternative to something like Shapeshift. Just the ability to switch from one coin to the other. The advantage will be for small amounts you will not have the hefty withdrawal fees that most exchanges charge.

That's exactly what I was looking for. Since I'm not an experienced trader I want to practice somewhere and it looks like your platform is going to be a perfect place for that.

Are you going to keep your withdrawal fees as low as they are today or will they be a bit higher? Btw Shapeshift charges 0.0005 BTC for any operation, which is not that small. I hope your fees will be much less than that.

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Quote from: jackg on July 14, 2018, 06:02:39 AM

And yes, there are a few primdice owners (for example) who have given out their full names before now. Why can't wetsuit do the same, what's he in fear of?
It would be considered more trustworthy as a site if you both offered your full identities.

It is not something I have or will ask wetsuit as I think if he didn't want to be anonymous he wouldn't be.

From a personal perspective, I use services like ChipMixer so that nobody knows how much Bitcoin I have. If you own a site holding over 1200 BTC just in user deposits that isn't an option. Do a Google news search on 'bitcoin kidnapping".

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:46:08 AM

I would have dumped a lot more coins into Freebitco.in if I knew what I was dealing with and if I could have explained that income to my local tax authorities. Cheesy

I don't see why that should be a problem, just declare the interest if you need to under your local legislation.

Literally the only way I could do that is to come to the British Virgin Islands Grin

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And yes, there are a few primdice owners (for example) who have given out their full names before now. Why can't wetsuit do the same, what's he in fear of?
It would be considered more trustworthy as a site if you both offered your full identities.

I like the government with friendly regulations and friendly tax concepts, that one made me chuckle.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 03:24:27 AM

Yea, you can with the Brick n Mortar sites, but these unregulated online gambling sites are all the same. You just close your eyes and hope for the best. Roll Eyes

< So pointing fingers to Freebitco.in would be unfair, because most of them are doing it this way > Grin

The distinction isn't bricks and mortar Vs. on-line it is fiat Vs. Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is very much a libertarian project designed to allow people to make financial transactions without interference from government authorities. Anonymity is very important to service providers.

Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 03:24:27 AM

When I declare my income with the tax authorities or when they do a audit, they want some kind of paper trail and with sites like this, it is not possible. Some of the investment sites I deal with, have "reports" that I use in PDF format for tax purposes. Wink

It should be adequate just to save screenshots. I have investments in other gambling sites and it is my responsibility to collect and save the data there as well.

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Quote from: TheQuin on July 14, 2018, 03:01:37 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:46:08 AM

Would still be great if we could place a human or humans behind the face of this project.

Can you do that with any Bitcoin gambling site?

Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:46:08 AM

I would have dumped a lot more coins into Freebitco.in if I knew what I was dealing with and if I could have explained that income to my local tax authorities. Cheesy

I don't see why that should be a problem, just declare the interest if you need to under your local legislation.

Yea, you can with the Brick n Mortar sites, but these unregulated online gambling sites are all the same. You just close your eyes and hope for the best. Roll Eyes

< So pointing fingers to Freebitco.in would be unfair, because most of them are doing it this way > Grin

When I declare my income with the tax authorities or when they do a audit, they want some kind of paper trail and with sites like this, it is not possible. Some of the investment sites I deal with, have "reports" that I use in PDF format for tax purposes. Wink

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:46:08 AM

Would still be great if we could place a human or humans behind the face of this project.

Can you do that with any Bitcoin gambling site?

Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:46:08 AM

I would have dumped a lot more coins into Freebitco.in if I knew what I was dealing with and if I could have explained that income to my local tax authorities. Cheesy

I don't see why that should be a problem, just declare the interest if you need to under your local legislation.

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Quote from: TheQuin on July 14, 2018, 02:33:54 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:27:05 AM

Personal income generated in another country, does not exempt you from paying taxes in your country of origin. They might use the Virgin Islands as a tax haven, but they can still be held liable for the tax income and the penalties, if they are caught. As TheQuin said, most unregistered gambling sites do this, but at one stage they grow too big and then people start knocking at your door.

Freebitco is currently operating as a Bank / Gambling site / Unregistered Business and I bet you, they not paying any taxes. They might want to legitimize this operation now, by re-branding the site. Huh

You're making a lot of assumptions about people's private financial arrangements. You're also misinformed about the need for registration and what constitutes legitimate.

You right. I probably are sucking this out of my ass. Undecided

Would still be great if we could place a human or humans behind the face of this project. It would just make the decision easier to dump a lot of money into the "investment" side of the site, if you knew that you not dealing with a site that might turn out to be a criminal front or some money laundering racket.

I would have dumped a lot more coins into Freebitco.in if I knew what I was dealing with and if I could have explained that income to my local tax authorities. Cheesy

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 14, 2018, 02:27:05 AM

Personal income generated in another country, does not exempt you from paying taxes in your country of origin. They might use the Virgin Islands as a tax haven, but they can still be held liable for the tax income and the penalties, if they are caught. As TheQuin said, most unregistered gambling sites do this, but at one stage they grow too big and then people start knocking at your door.

Freebitco is currently operating as a Bank / Gambling site / Unregistered Business and I bet you, they not paying any taxes. They might want to legitimize this operation now, by re-branding the site. Huh

You're making a lot of assumptions about people's private financial arrangements. You're also misinformed about the need for registration and what constitutes legitimate.

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It's not being abandoned, just when we rebrand it will no longer be in the name. That's about getting away from the perception that we are just a faucet.

By the way, any news about rebranding. I remember it was planned in July or something similar, but now I suspect that it will not happen this summer?
And I got email message about reward points bonus and I noticed this thing at the bottom of message
FreeBitco.in, 3rd Floor, J and C Building, PO Box 933, Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands
So, this means that Freebitco.in now registered as official company?

Probably not. There are probably minimal laws and minimal enforcement there (however, they are sending out their location so maybe).

The British Virgin Islands are one of the places Britons use for legal tax evasion (probably what this site is doing also).

It's nothing new. If you do a whois lookup of the domain it tells you it is registered in Tortola, VG. I can't remember where I found it now but I found that address when I searched for it years ago.

The British Virgin Islands are a very popular place to base an internet company. The government there is very welcoming with a friendly attitude to regulation and taxes.

Personal income generated in another country, does not exempt you from paying taxes in your country of origin. They might use the Virgin Islands as a tax haven, but they can still be held liable for the tax income and the penalties, if they are caught. As TheQuin said, most unregistered gambling sites do this, but at one stage they grow too big and then people start knocking at your door.

Freebitco is currently operating as a Bank / Gambling site / Unregistered Business and I bet you, they not paying any taxes. They might want to legitimize this operation now, by re-branding the site. Huh

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