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Quote from: michkima on March 29, 2018, 05:06:36 PM

Quote from: pepi on March 29, 2018, 12:37:23 PM

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got 9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

what's next? calling the F.B.I.for sharing a router? you can't expect to not have those kind of situations, I'd say they are the most common than ever. the site too promotes referral as sharing with family and friends, so he's doing anything illegal. Furthermore, the website doesn't allow more than 1 free roll claim per IP per hour, so it would be useless to "cheat" in that way.

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Quote from: michkima on March 29, 2018, 05:06:36 PM

Quote from: pepi on March 29, 2018, 12:37:23 PM

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got 9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

wetsuit help me many times, , I told them same, and he never doubt. So if he was not ask question, who are you to ask me and accuse me?
And second , when my brother get 27 sathosi, I regularly got half of that. So in other words system found that I "cheat- by your words" when he got 9989 but not found to "cheat" when he got any other. Should I take two cable modems and pay two different cable providers to get two different IP?

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Quote from: MinerHQ on March 29, 2018, 06:28:23 PM

Quote from: TheQuin on March 29, 2018, 09:54:29 AM

Constantly changing the weekly withdrawal isn't practical and people would not be happy if it was a dynamic fee and they didn't realise when the fees suddenly went high.

If you make a dynamic and announce it once then it will be users responsibility to check the fees if they enable weekly payment.

Quote from: TheQuin on March 29, 2018, 09:54:29 AM

As you say fees are low and you can get a slow withdrawal for 40 sats, so why the need for a weekly withdrawal?

That is users convenience and you can't ask them why they need. They may not want to go and withdraw manually so they may prefer auto withdrawals every week.

Instead of asking users not to choose weekly withdrawals, why can't you guys remove that feature? What is the use other than the site can get additional profit from the more fee currently?

Quote from: Meow1968 on March 29, 2018, 12:32:15 PM

The auto-withdrawal used to be free. The idea was if you wanted your BTC sooner you'd have to pay a fee, which is reasonable. The change was made when BTC spiked to $20K a few months ago and people started either buying or selling and that drove up transaction fees to outrageous levels. But now that the bubble has burst, the fees have gone way down, which is why I was asking if autowithdrawal could be free again. To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

That is true, they can't just increase the fee when it goes up but also need to consider to adjust when it comes down.

We did consider removing weekly withdrawal completely but we have a number of customers that are not active but have invested in recruiting a large number of referrals. They are the ones that typically have auto withdraw turned on and we don't feel it is right to keep changing the fee as they will not necessarily know it has happened. They are also the type of customer that is happy to pay 3000 sats a week for the convenience. For anyone that is actively using the site using the slow withdrawal makes much more sense.

Quote from: Meow1968 on March 29, 2018, 12:32:15 PM

To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

Meow

I hear you, it was only 30 free rolls when I started. This is much more a function of Bitcoin and micropayments than a freebitco.in issue. If we reduced it then we could easily get to the point that Tx fees go up again and I'll be answering endless complaints that fee is higher than the withdrawal amount. Just wait until we add other coins and I'm sure we'll offer other options to get your coin out.

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Quote from: TheQuin on March 29, 2018, 09:54:29 AM

Constantly changing the weekly withdrawal isn't practical and people would not be happy if it was a dynamic fee and they didn't realise when the fees suddenly went high.

If you make a dynamic and announce it once then it will be users responsibility to check the fees if they enable weekly payment.

Quote from: TheQuin on March 29, 2018, 09:54:29 AM

As you say fees are low and you can get a slow withdrawal for 40 sats, so why the need for a weekly withdrawal?

That is users convenience and you can't ask them why they need. They may not want to go and withdraw manually so they may prefer auto withdrawals every week.

Instead of asking users not to choose weekly withdrawals, why can't you guys remove that feature? What is the use other than the site can get additional profit from the more fee currently?

Quote from: Meow1968 on March 29, 2018, 12:32:15 PM

The auto-withdrawal used to be free. The idea was if you wanted your BTC sooner you'd have to pay a fee, which is reasonable. The change was made when BTC spiked to $20K a few months ago and people started either buying or selling and that drove up transaction fees to outrageous levels. But now that the bubble has burst, the fees have gone way down, which is why I was asking if autowithdrawal could be free again. To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

That is true, they can't just increase the fee when it goes up but also need to consider to adjust when it comes down.

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Quote from: Kprawn on March 29, 2018, 10:17:17 AM

The guys over at Freebitco.in have a good sense of humour --> http://prntscr.com/iy2zy7 {Was send to one of my referrals}

http://prntscr.com/iy31mv <--- 1,000 Satoshi bonus {When I started with this site, they paid that every hour} Grin

Just nice to see that they have a automated incentive method to get people back, when they have not used it for a while.

Nice touch. Cool

That's some great retention marketing

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Quote from: michkima on March 29, 2018, 05:06:36 PM

Quote from: pepi on March 29, 2018, 12:37:23 PM

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got 9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

So-called brother and relative stories is the most common alibis for those people who do make abuse either on faucets or promotions.Its normal to think that having the same IP and having the same operation ( faucet claiming) can really be considered already as abuse.For sole intent on having referral earnings and now you are questioning why isnt counted or credited? Then you do know already the answer.

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Quote from: pepi on March 29, 2018, 12:37:23 PM

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got 9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

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Quote from: Meow1968 on March 29, 2018, 12:32:15 PM

Quin,

Thanks for the explanation.

The auto-withdrawal used to be free. The idea was if you wanted your BTC sooner you'd have to pay a fee, which is reasonable. The change was made when BTC spiked to $20K a few months ago and people started either buying or selling and that drove up transaction fees to outrageous levels. But now that the bubble has burst, the fees have gone way down, which is why I was asking if autowithdrawal could be free again. To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

Meow

We'll probably see some changes when freebitcoin is rebranded, we might have free withdrawals again. Wink

as for now slow withdrawal is best option(only 0.00000040 BTC fee) and you get bitcoins in your wallet in 6-24 hours. faucet is increasing as bitcoin falls lower and lower..

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My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got 9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

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Quin,

Thanks for the explanation.

The auto-withdrawal used to be free. The idea was if you wanted your BTC sooner you'd have to pay a fee, which is reasonable. The change was made when BTC spiked to $20K a few months ago and people started either buying or selling and that drove up transaction fees to outrageous levels. But now that the bubble has burst, the fees have gone way down, which is why I was asking if autowithdrawal could be free again. To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

Meow

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The guys over at Freebitco.in have a good sense of humour --> http://prntscr.com/iy2zy7 {Was send to one of my referrals}

http://prntscr.com/iy31mv <--- 1,000 Satoshi bonus {When I started with this site, they paid that every hour} Grin

Just nice to see that they have a automated incentive method to get people back, when they have not used it for a while.

Nice touch. Cool

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Quote from: Meow1968 on March 29, 2018, 09:24:08 AM

OK, understood about the reduction of award for the lowest prize. Hopefully it will be temporary.

I also have two other questions:

1) The 30,000 satoshi minimum to withdraw has been in place for a long time. That was the minimum when the value of the bitcoin was only in the hundreds of dollars. When I started on your site, it was in the $700s and the minimum prize was 275 satoshi, so with a little more than 100 rolls you could reach the minimum.
Now that the value of BTC is more than 10 times that, wouldn't it make sense to reduce the minimum to, say, 5000 satoshi to make it more reachable? (Of course this would have to happen after the problem of the hacking and bots is resolved).

2) Now that the recent bubble is over and transaction costs are much lower, are there any plans to remove the 3000 satoshi fee for the automatic deposit, which is now even higher than the fee for instant deposit?

MM

1) I wouldn't expect much to be changing in the near future. The site is going to be rebranded and a number of altcoins added and an exchange function to be added. I would expect things like minimum withdrawal levels to be addressed at that time.

2) If you mean withdrawal rather than deposit then I think that is to try and move everyone away from using the weekly withdrawal. As you say fees are low and you can get a slow withdrawal for 40 sats, so why the need for a weekly withdrawal? Long-term we don't know how long fees will stay low and using dynamic fees on the slow and instant withdrawals is the best way forward. Constantly changing the weekly withdrawal isn't practical and people would not be happy if it was a dynamic fee and they didn't realise when the fees suddenly went high. With slow and instant you have to accept the fee when requesting the withdrawal whereas weekly is automated.
Also after other coins are added you'll have the option to exchange and withdraw coins with lower Tx fees if you want.

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OK, understood about the reduction of award for the lowest prize. Hopefully it will be temporary.

I also have two other questions:

1) The 30,000 satoshi minimum to withdraw has been in place for a long time. That was the minimum when the value of the bitcoin was only in the hundreds of dollars. When I started on your site, it was in the $700s and the minimum prize was 275 satoshi, so with a little more than 100 rolls you could reach the minimum.
Now that the value of BTC is more than 10 times that, wouldn't it make sense to reduce the minimum to, say, 5000 satoshi to make it more reachable? (Of course this would have to happen after the problem of the hacking and bots is resolved).

2) Now that the recent bubble is over and transaction costs are much lower, are there any plans to remove the 3000 satoshi fee for the automatic deposit, which is now even higher than the fee for instant deposit?

MM

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Quote from: scorpionso on March 27, 2018, 08:36:01 AM

these things seems waste of time for me. instead of hoping to won some coins from this system airdrop is better. Undecided

I don't think so. There are a lot of complaints about airdrops too. On FreeBitco.in, on the other hand, it's not $0.002 worth of BTC every hour which is attractive. Spending very little time for visiting the site you have a chance to win $20 or even $200 while risking nothing, and that's what is engaging. Also it is important to note that they pay their winners regularly unlike many other sites who only promise big prizes but then don't pay out.

Don't forget about lottery! there's also a chance of winning huge jackpot/prize from lottery, everyone gets 2 free tickets on each faucet claim. some have won lottery with less than 10 tickets, you never know when you can get lucky. Wink

not a time waste for me(i do it in free time).

Actually I disabled lottery some time ago to receive reward points instead of lottery tickets. I tried to win in the lottery many times before that decision, I even was buying tickets several times but then I gave up.

The reward points are good thing though. You can redeem them to increase your minimum free BTC reward up to 1000% for 24 hours after redemption.

Quote from: TheQuin on March 29, 2018, 02:18:22 AM

I've got a few more details about the reduced awards algorithm I can share with you.

The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).

If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.

Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.

New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.

Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.

Thank you! Yesterday I was going to tell that my free play rewards weren't reduced but then I thought that it may disclose the specifics of the algorithm

and I restrained myself from posting that info. So, I'm happy to confirm that I have the same rewards as before.

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Quote from: StelioKontos on March 29, 2018, 02:15:09 AM

I rolled 10000 zero times in about 6 months. However, for what is worth, I rolled 00000 two times!

Chance of drawing 10000 is 1/20000, so in average every three and a half years if you try your luck 15 times a day.
It's theorically the same for 00000, so you were very "lucky" to draw it twice already... Never got it personally.

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I've got a few more details about the reduced awards algorithm I can share with you.

The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).

If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.

Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.

New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.

Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.

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I rolled 10000 zero times in about 6 months. However, for what is worth, I rolled 00000 two times!

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Quote from: chris200x9 on March 28, 2018, 08:29:44 PM

You have missed important factor here is luck

Actually, I believe it is those that think in terms of $0.002 per hour that are missing that important factor. Freebitco.in is successful because it offers that chance to get lucky for free.

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Quote from: TheQuin on March 28, 2018, 11:13:27 AM

Quote from: BTCevo on March 28, 2018, 11:10:08 AM

how much time do you need to get 0.01 btc?

Less than a second if you roll 10000 you'll get 0.02543267 BTC right now.... but of course, it's not worth it Roll Eyes

How many times have you rolled that number so far in a second?

You have missed important factor here is luck, that can happen only if your luck otherwise you know how much you can get for that one second.

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Thanks for the offer ,
I have dropped a PM with my login id

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Quote from: merc1969 on March 28, 2018, 10:57:43 AM

Hi,
Is there a support email id . Iam trying to reset my password . But the "reset password " link does not appear to come to my email id. Not sure which email id to send to . Any help / pointers are appreciated.

Send me a PM with your user ID and the email address and I'll pass it on to the admin.

Edit: I probably should have said the obvious check your spam folder thing as well.

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