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I will continue to work botnet network.I will expand it.

And we will continue to try and protect our genuine users from your greed but unfortunately, your actions harm them as we are forced by you to make these changes.



@Triple_S
I did read it but I trust wetsuits analysis of the situation and numbers much more than yours.
jr. member
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@Triple_S

The important factor you are missing is that there is a cost involved in running a botnet. That's why solosss is so upset that they came here to complain. By reducing the rewards we take away their profit margin. It's unfortunate that genuine users get caught up in it. The only way we can tell what is a bot is that they don't risk becoming unprofitable by gambling, they don't deposit, and they use every means possible to max out what they can get from the faucet.


I suspect you did not even read my post, did not understand it or did not want it to be true!

I don't care about the stuff solosss says cause I suspect him being just a troll. A real bot user would not complain this loud, cause as I said:
The income of bot users with lots of accounts ONLY DECREASED BY ~7% OR 10 SATOSHI!!!
This is basically nothing to them, so a real bot user would just continue to earn from your site even if they have running costs!
newbie
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@Triple_S

The important factor you are missing is that there is a cost involved in running a botnet. That's why solosss is so upset that they came here to complain. By reducing the rewards we take away their profit margin. It's unfortunate that genuine users get caught up in it. The only way we can tell what is a bot is that they don't risk becoming unprofitable by gambling, they don't deposit, and they use every means possible to max out what they can get from the faucet.

one bot - hundreds of real users.
Friends, they only need you to make them make money.
and all they do is related solely to their profits. covered by the fight against bots
newbie
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@Triple_S

The important factor you are missing is that there is a cost involved in running a botnet. That's why solosss is so upset that they came here to complain. By reducing the rewards we take away their profit margin. It's unfortunate that genuine users get caught up in it. The only way we can tell what is a bot is that they don't risk becoming unprofitable by gambling, they don't deposit, and they use every means possible to max out what they can get from the faucet.

dear TheQuin, I do not bear any costs in the management of botnetset, all my costs have long paid off, I just want to tell you that Yes, you have reduced my income, but I will not dwell on this, I will continue to work botnet network.I will expand it.

no need to cover your greed with good goals, you just can not tell users that they do not need you if you do not pay the money.
you can't distinguish bots from real users, why do you think there are so many bots?
hero member
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@Triple_S

The important factor you are missing is that there is a cost involved in running a botnet. That's why solosss is so upset that they came here to complain. By reducing the rewards we take away their profit margin. It's unfortunate that genuine users get caught up in it. The only way we can tell what is a bot is that they don't risk becoming unprofitable by gambling, they don't deposit, and they use every means possible to max out what they can get from the faucet.
jr. member
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I've just had confirmation that the restrictions on redeeming the higher levels of reward points is because a lot of the bot users were using their accumulated RP to increase their rewards 5x and making it profitable to bot again.

This restriction only applies to accounts that do not meet the minimum wagering/lotto ticket/balance requirement to reach the full base reward.

Again I'm sorry that the actions of a few selfish botnet abusers affects genuine users.


Well surprise surprise: I'M NO BOT USER!!!
But as many other legit users affected by this!

All these measures won't stop bot users just because of one reason:
Bot users can calculate with the AVERAGE claim amount, because for example if a bot user has 1000 accounts that claim 24/7, he will roll a 10000 almost every day - It's pure statistics. Therefore the amount bot users will calculate with is the AVERAGE claim amount, not the MINIMUM. The AVERAGE claim amount is currently around 172 satoshi. Before you halfed the MINIMUM reward it was like 10 satoshi higher, so not significaltly different. All this does only apply to users with lots of accounts, cause they will hit the high rewards in reasonable time. Regular users will need multiple years because of the low chances.

This basically means: You measures against bots affect regular users much more than bot users with many accounts!!! This is riddiculous!!!

Anyway there is still a possibility to hurt bot users while not hurting regular users and this would be my preferred measure: If you half ALL rewards and half the TIME BETWEEN 2 CLAIMS, the average amount per time will stay the same, but you have to solve twice as much Captchas for it, so regular users will be able to claim the exact same amount, but the costs for bot users will double! This is annoying to regular users, but will not affect their income.

Anyway I understand that you want to hurt users that don't generate income, but please don't be that hypocritical saying it is all against bots. As I just proved it mainly affects users that don't generate income for the site and there would be measures that would actually affect bots, but you don't take them.

If you now want to say I should just deposit some money to be counted as a user: I would never even think about investing real money into a website with a information policy as horrible as yours!!! You take measures that even you, the community manager, does not know anything about. It would be no effort to inform about the measures with a banner or so on the website, but you decided to make everything as silent as possible - How come?
newbie
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Yeah, blame it all on botnets. What's next ? Deposit more BTC to enter the site ? Ridiculous.

How about this: Hey, I'm a human and I can prove it. Will you fix my halved payouts/remove REWARDS restrictions now ?
hero member
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I've just had confirmation that the restrictions on redeeming the higher levels of reward points is because a lot of the bot users were using their accumulated RP to increase their rewards 5x and making it profitable to bot again.

This restriction only applies to accounts that do not meet the minimum wagering/lotto ticket/balance requirement to reach the full base reward.

Again I'm sorry that the actions of a few selfish botnet abusers affects genuine users.
hero member
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everything is clear and without wetsuit, those who do not play reduced the minimum payment, now also removed the ability to activate bonuses 1000% and 500% as well as the activation of the reward point + 100 and + 50

I can't confirm what I don't know but it would make a lot of sense if the best rewards are reserved for players rather than bot abusers.
newbie
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what about points?

I'm not sure yet, a couple of other people have reported the same problem. I've sent the details on to wetsuit and as soon as he gives me an update I'll let everyone know.

everything is clear and without wetsuit, those who do not play reduced the minimum payment, now also removed the ability to activate bonuses 1000% and 500% as well as the activation of the reward point + 100 and + 50
hero member
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what about points?

I'm not sure yet, a couple of other people have reported the same problem. I've sent the details on to wetsuit and as soon as he gives me an update I'll let everyone know.
newbie
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I gave you merit for following up your previous post with useful info.  Good to hear it works out eventually.   
Thanks .

I would use the site more if the mining feature worked out more profitably.   Perhaps this isnt possible and its a limit of what code is possible within the webpage, I thought it could be higher returns though.

I have tried the browser mining option when it was released as an experimental effort long time back ( just out of curiosity). But since it uses the CPU ( and not the GPU - even if you had one ), it will definitely be not worth the power / time . ( IMHO)
If you are using chrome, Shift + Esc will show you what component in your browser is using up your CPU - and if you are mining using the browser, it will show that its eating up most of your resources.

You do realize that you are almost certainly paying more for electricity than you are earning using a browser miner? There are much, much better ways to make money. Browser mining is just one step away from being faucet tier shit. Why not invest in some decent hardware so you can mine properly, or if you can't afford it, save up your money and pay for a cloud mining account.
Not only on the electricity would you spend but also you wont really able to use up your pc while you are browser mining comsuming computing power would lag the entire pc.
Going back into your suggestion i would rather save up money than on investing on cloud mining site. If you go that path you are still wasting up your money.

You're missing the point of browser mining. There's a slider control that allows you to reduce the % usage so you can mine in the background and still use your PC. If you just measure the extra electricity the mining process uses then with average electricity prices it should be profitable. It only really works for a PC that is already turned on.

what about points?
hero member
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I gave you merit for following up your previous post with useful info.  Good to hear it works out eventually.   
Thanks .

I would use the site more if the mining feature worked out more profitably.   Perhaps this isnt possible and its a limit of what code is possible within the webpage, I thought it could be higher returns though.

I have tried the browser mining option when it was released as an experimental effort long time back ( just out of curiosity). But since it uses the CPU ( and not the GPU - even if you had one ), it will definitely be not worth the power / time . ( IMHO)
If you are using chrome, Shift + Esc will show you what component in your browser is using up your CPU - and if you are mining using the browser, it will show that its eating up most of your resources.

You do realize that you are almost certainly paying more for electricity than you are earning using a browser miner? There are much, much better ways to make money. Browser mining is just one step away from being faucet tier shit. Why not invest in some decent hardware so you can mine properly, or if you can't afford it, save up your money and pay for a cloud mining account.
Not only on the electricity would you spend but also you wont really able to use up your pc while you are browser mining comsuming computing power would lag the entire pc.
Going back into your suggestion i would rather save up money than on investing on cloud mining site. If you go that path you are still wasting up your money.

You're missing the point of browser mining. There's a slider control that allows you to reduce the % usage so you can mine in the background and still use your PC. If you just measure the extra electricity the mining process uses then with average electricity prices it should be profitable. It only really works for a PC that is already turned on.
hero member
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I gave you merit for following up your previous post with useful info.  Good to hear it works out eventually.   
Thanks .

I would use the site more if the mining feature worked out more profitably.   Perhaps this isnt possible and its a limit of what code is possible within the webpage, I thought it could be higher returns though.

I have tried the browser mining option when it was released as an experimental effort long time back ( just out of curiosity). But since it uses the CPU ( and not the GPU - even if you had one ), it will definitely be not worth the power / time . ( IMHO)
If you are using chrome, Shift + Esc will show you what component in your browser is using up your CPU - and if you are mining using the browser, it will show that its eating up most of your resources.

You do realize that you are almost certainly paying more for electricity than you are earning using a browser miner? There are much, much better ways to make money. Browser mining is just one step away from being faucet tier shit. Why not invest in some decent hardware so you can mine properly, or if you can't afford it, save up your money and pay for a cloud mining account.
Not only on the electricity would you spend but also you wont really able to use up your pc while you are browser mining comsuming computing power would lag the entire pc.
Going back into your suggestion i would rather save up money than on investing on cloud mining site. If you go that path you are still wasting up your money.
hero member
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I gave you merit for following up your previous post with useful info.  Good to hear it works out eventually.   
Thanks .

I would use the site more if the mining feature worked out more profitably.   Perhaps this isnt possible and its a limit of what code is possible within the webpage, I thought it could be higher returns though.

I have tried the browser mining option when it was released as an experimental effort long time back ( just out of curiosity). But since it uses the CPU ( and not the GPU - even if you had one ), it will definitely be not worth the power / time . ( IMHO)
If you are using chrome, Shift + Esc will show you what component in your browser is using up your CPU - and if you are mining using the browser, it will show that its eating up most of your resources.

You do realize that you are almost certainly paying more for electricity than you are earning using a browser miner? There are much, much better ways to make money. Browser mining is just one step away from being faucet tier shit. Why not invest in some decent hardware so you can mine properly, or if you can't afford it, save up your money and pay for a cloud mining account.
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Just looking at the fact you get 2 RP for every free roll that's only 16 free rolls to get 10% bonus. Already way better than the 1% bonus after 10 that you just asked for.  Wink
I guess we have agree on the fact that people (including me) just want this cool, new update already Grin
The need for something new is strong here, not only Kprawn and poptok1 are expressing this but majority of freebitcoins users, I presume would appreciate something extra and I don't mean extra money, although it would be nice.
I have a strong feeling that wesuit is gonna make reward points as a erc20 token or something very similar.
IMO that would be first useful incarnation of erc20 Wink Imagine on site micro-exchange, people trading with each other etc, etc.
To be honest, I cant wait for the grand reveal.

That's good to hear. Unfortunately, with all the Newbies signing up to whine that we don't give them enough free money, it's easy to miss the important stuff. I'm not too sure how the token is going to work but I think it is going to be linked to the site's profits.
This is just a personal opinion but I wish he hadn't announced the rebrand so far in advance.  Wink
newbie
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First the payout was cut by half and now some users are not able to redeem higher RP rewards. This is getting pathetic and it's looking more and more like some kind of an exit scam or something. I bet you need to deposit more BTC now in order to use REWARD POINTS rewards.

Long time ago it was the best BTC faucet, but not anymore with all those changes that require users to deposit more and more.
hero member
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Bobby Fischer was right
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Just looking at the fact you get 2 RP for every free roll that's only 16 free rolls to get 10% bonus. Already way better than the 1% bonus after 10 that you just asked for.  Wink
I guess we have agree on the fact that people (including me) just want this cool, new update already Grin
The need for something new is strong here, not only Kprawn and poptok1 are expressing this but majority of freebitcoins users, I presume would appreciate something extra and I don't mean extra money, although it would be nice.
I have a strong feeling that wesuit is gonna make reward points as a erc20 token or something very similar.
IMO that would be first useful incarnation of erc20 Wink Imagine on site micro-exchange, people trading with each other etc, etc.
To be honest, I cant wait for the grand reveal.
hero member
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The reward points are not actually what I was thinking about. I doubt if a lot of people are directly motivated by this, because

they cannot see the outcome or the reason for this. It should mention that the more you use the FREE ROLL option, the

 higher your pay-out will be. Say you use it 10 times a day and you get 25 Sat, then after every 10 times, your payout will be

say 1% more for every spin.  Wink   Roll Eyes

If you redeem RP for BTC Bonus then that does increase your free roll payout.

32 RP gives 10% Bonus
160 RP gives 50% Bonus
320 RP gives 100% Bonus
1600 RP gives 500% Bonus
3200 RP gives 1000% Bonus

Just looking at the fact you get 2 RP for every free roll that's only 16 free rolls to get 10% bonus. Already way better than the 1% bonus after 10 that you just asked for.  Wink
legendary
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think of something to retain those users. Some kind of incentive scheme {The more active you are, the higher your FREE

ROLL pay-outs?}

That's what the reward points scheme was introduced for. I don't think those figures are particularly out of line with any other gambling site or faucets for that matter. Certainly from my experience of getting referrals on other gambling sites I have a far better retention rate here.


The reward points are not actually what I was thinking about. I doubt if a lot of people are directly motivated by this, because

they cannot see the outcome or the reason for this. It should mention that the more you use the FREE ROLL option, the

 higher your pay-out will be. Say you use it 10 times a day and you get 25 Sat, then after every 10 times, your payout will be

say 1% more for every spin.  Wink   Roll Eyes
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