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Quote from: wetsuit on January 23, 2014, 09:44:44 AM

Well showing you the seeds in advance means that the generated number cannot be changed mid-way after you click ROLL. Note down the server seed hash, client seed and nonce before you play and after playing, note down the server seed of the previous roll. Then if you generate a SHA 256 hash of the server seed, it should match the server seed hash that was shown, meaning that the server seed wasn't changed after you clicked ROLL.

Then, using the formula on that page you can use the server seed, client seed and nonce to calculate the number that should have been rolled and then compare it to the number that was actually rolled, and if both match then you have confirmed that there was no foul play.

I'm not very good at explaining stuff but I hope this made it a bit clearer.

As I got it the rolled number depends on both the server and the client, so it is not possible to throw away all potential big wins before you click ROLL, right?

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Quote from: wetsuit on January 23, 2014, 09:44:44 AM

Quote from: Rnbin on January 23, 2014, 09:37:06 AM

Quote from: wetsuit on January 23, 2014, 06:15:34 AM

Quote from: Rnbin on January 23, 2014, 05:58:46 AM

Hi,

I really like your site, but could you make the hourly 'Free Play' game also provably fair ? The game is great because of the chance to win 0.2 or 0.02 bitcoins but I don't see any real proof that you can actually win this at a fair 1/10000 and 2/10000 chance ? And without the top wins included in the game, there's no fun to it...

How do we know the number is generated in all fairness ?

I've been playing the hourly game many times a day for a while now and I seem to be having a number between 9886 - 9985 (earning you 2203 Satoshi) quite a lot (about 1 time out of 10 !!!) even though that's far more than the mathematical chance of 1 time out of 100 !!! Makes me believe that you silently increase the chance to win 2203 satoshi for making the game more popular... I'm wondering if you silently decrease the chance to win higher amounts too, otherwise you would not be able to make any profit out of your site...

And I know about the stats of payments shown on the site, but that doesn't prove the fairness of how the number is generated. So please show me i'm wrong by adding such an system to the site, as i love the concept of bitco.in !

Yup, I can do that. It is actually on my list of stuff to do. Give me a week to implement it.

That's great, thanks ! By the way, could you explain how a 'seed' is proving fair game ? Because I don't understand how showing a seed for the next game proves anything when only the creator knows the algorithms to 'solve' the seed. Not that i doubt the system, i suppose it works as many sites use it, but for me (= a noob when it comes to scripting) it shows as much as posting a picture of a cat with a subtext "provably fair game, see fluffy cat image" Sad

Well showing you the seeds in advance means that the generated number cannot be changed mid-way after you click ROLL. Note down the server seed hash, client seed and nonce before you play and after playing, note down the server seed of the previous roll. Then if you generate a SHA 256 hash of the server seed, it should match the server seed hash that was shown, meaning that the server seed wasn't changed after you clicked ROLL.

Then, using the formula on that page you can use the server seed, client seed and nonce to calculate the number that should have been rolled and then compare it to the number that was actually rolled, and if both match then you have confirmed that there was no foul play.

I'm not very good at explaining stuff but I hope this made it a bit clearer.

this would be great as I have had questions about the free play roll too. thanks wetsuit you seem really responsive and to be running a reputable free bitcoin site, which is so rare nowadays.

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Quote from: Rnbin on January 23, 2014, 09:37:06 AM

Quote from: wetsuit on January 23, 2014, 06:15:34 AM

Quote from: Rnbin on January 23, 2014, 05:58:46 AM

Hi,

I really like your site, but could you make the hourly 'Free Play' game also provably fair ? The game is great because of the chance to win 0.2 or 0.02 bitcoins but I don't see any real proof that you can actually win this at a fair 1/10000 and 2/10000 chance ? And without the top wins included in the game, there's no fun to it...

How do we know the number is generated in all fairness ?

I've been playing the hourly game many times a day for a while now and I seem to be having a number between 9886 - 9985 (earning you 2203 Satoshi) quite a lot (about 1 time out of 10 !!!) even though that's far more than the mathematical chance of 1 time out of 100 !!! Makes me believe that you silently increase the chance to win 2203 satoshi for making the game more popular... I'm wondering if you silently decrease the chance to win higher amounts too, otherwise you would not be able to make any profit out of your site...

And I know about the stats of payments shown on the site, but that doesn't prove the fairness of how the number is generated. So please show me i'm wrong by adding such an system to the site, as i love the concept of bitco.in !

Yup, I can do that. It is actually on my list of stuff to do. Give me a week to implement it.

That's great, thanks ! By the way, could you explain how a 'seed' is proving fair game ? Because I don't understand how showing a seed for the next game proves anything when only the creator knows the algorithms to 'solve' the seed. Not that i doubt the system, i suppose it works as many sites use it, but for me (= a noob when it comes to scripting) it shows as much as posting a picture of a cat with a subtext "provably fair game, see fluffy cat image" Sad

Well showing you the seeds in advance means that the generated number cannot be changed mid-way after you click ROLL. Note down the server seed hash, client seed and nonce before you play and after playing, note down the server seed of the previous roll. Then if you generate a SHA 256 hash of the server seed, it should match the server seed hash that was shown, meaning that the server seed wasn't changed after you clicked ROLL.

Then, using the formula on that page you can use the server seed, client seed and nonce to calculate the number that should have been rolled and then compare it to the number that was actually rolled, and if both match then you have confirmed that there was no foul play.

I'm not very good at explaining stuff but I hope this made it a bit clearer.

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Quote from: wetsuit on January 23, 2014, 06:15:34 AM

Quote from: Rnbin on January 23, 2014, 05:58:46 AM

Hi,

I really like your site, but could you make the hourly 'Free Play' game also provably fair ? The game is great because of the chance to win 0.2 or 0.02 bitcoins but I don't see any real proof that you can actually win this at a fair 1/10000 and 2/10000 chance ? And without the top wins included in the game, there's no fun to it...

How do we know the number is generated in all fairness ?

I've been playing the hourly game many times a day for a while now and I seem to be having a number between 9886 - 9985 (earning you 2203 Satoshi) quite a lot (about 1 time out of 10 !!!) even though that's far more than the mathematical chance of 1 time out of 100 !!! Makes me believe that you silently increase the chance to win 2203 satoshi for making the game more popular... I'm wondering if you silently decrease the chance to win higher amounts too, otherwise you would not be able to make any profit out of your site...

And I know about the stats of payments shown on the site, but that doesn't prove the fairness of how the number is generated. So please show me i'm wrong by adding such an system to the site, as i love the concept of bitco.in !

Yup, I can do that. It is actually on my list of stuff to do. Give me a week to implement it.

That's great, thanks ! By the way, could you explain how a 'seed' is proving fair game ? Because I don't understand how showing a seed for the next game proves anything when only the creator knows the algorithms to 'solve' the seed. Not that i doubt the system, i suppose it works as many sites use it, but for me (= a noob when it comes to scripting) it shows as much as posting a picture of a cat with a subtext "provably fair game, see fluffy cat image" Sad

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Quote from: Rnbin on January 23, 2014, 05:58:46 AM

Hi,

I really like your site, but could you make the hourly 'Free Play' game also provably fair ? The game is great because of the chance to win 0.2 or 0.02 bitcoins but I don't see any real proof that you can actually win this at a fair 1/10000 and 2/10000 chance ? And without the top wins included in the game, there's no fun to it...

How do we know the number is generated in all fairness ?

I've been playing the hourly game many times a day for a while now and I seem to be having a number between 9886 - 9985 (earning you 2203 Satoshi) quite a lot (about 1 time out of 10 !!!) even though that's far more than the mathematical chance of 1 time out of 100 !!! Makes me believe that you silently increase the chance to win 2203 satoshi for making the game more popular... I'm wondering if you silently decrease the chance to win higher amounts too, otherwise you would not be able to make any profit out of your site...

And I know about the stats of payments shown on the site, but that doesn't prove the fairness of how the number is generated. So please show me i'm wrong by adding such an system to the site, as i love the concept of bitco.in !

Yup, I can do that. It is actually on my list of stuff to do. Give me a week to implement it.

Rnbin

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Hi,

I really like your site, but could you make the hourly 'Free Play' game also provably fair ? The game is great because of the chance to win 0.2 or 0.02 bitcoins but I don't see any real proof that you can actually win this at a fair 1/10000 and 2/10000 chance ? And without the top wins included in the game, there's no fun to it...

How do we know the number is generated in all fairness ?

I've been playing the hourly game many times a day for a while now and I seem to be having a number between 9886 - 9985 (earning you 2203 Satoshi) quite a lot (about 1 time out of 10 !!!) even though that's far more than the mathematical chance of 1 time out of 100 !!! Makes me believe that you silently increase the chance to win 2203 satoshi for making the game more popular... I'm wondering if you silently decrease the chance to win higher amounts too, otherwise you would not be able to make any profit out of your site...

And I know about the stats of payments shown on the site, but that doesn't prove the fairness of how the number is generated. So please show me i'm wrong by adding such an system to the site, as i love the concept of bitco.in !

wetsuit

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There was an issue with recaptcha which resulted in the captcha now showing up. It is back up now.

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Looks like it was a recaptcha or whoever wetsuit uses problem. Cryptsy's was also broken for awhile. Everything is up and running now though!

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Quote from: bmoconno on January 22, 2014, 08:19:26 PM

Is anyone else having this problem? I've reset my computer and tried a different PC, but no Captcha is showing up. I don't use Ad-Blockers or anything like that, and I'm the only one in my household who knows what BTC stands for.

Change your browser
I faced the Same problem but when i changed from Chrome to Firefox it worked.
Try it may be it will work

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I am new in freebitco.in but loved it and its multiplier.

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Is anyone else having this problem? I've reset my computer and tried a different PC, but no Captcha is showing up. I don't use Ad-Blockers or anything like that, and I'm the only one in my household who knows what BTC stands for.

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Quote from: deisik on January 21, 2014, 10:30:16 PM

Quote from: waldocarter on January 21, 2014, 06:03:17 PM

Quote from: wetsuit on January 21, 2014, 04:30:35 AM

As for your brother and friends, when they are experiencing this problem the next time, could you ask them to note down their IP's and then check if it clashes.

could it be that they have different accounts but both using the same bitcoin address?

I think this couldn't be possible at all. When you register, you provide your bitcoin address (which serves as login) and password. So trying to register with the same address would be equal to resetting your password as I get it...

Yes that is correct. The website wouldn't allow you to register 2 accounts with the same address.

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Quote from: waldocarter on January 21, 2014, 06:03:17 PM

Quote from: wetsuit on January 21, 2014, 04:30:35 AM

As for your brother and friends, when they are experiencing this problem the next time, could you ask them to note down their IP's and then check if it clashes.

could it be that they have different accounts but both using the same bitcoin address?

I think this couldn't be possible at all. When you register, you provide your bitcoin address (which serves as login) and password. So trying to register with the same address would be equal to resetting your password as I get it...

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Quote from: wetsuit on January 14, 2014, 09:02:32 AM

Quote from: dmcx on January 14, 2014, 07:49:47 AM

hey,

.00005 giwaway still available? here's my address: 17w9MLAzr58X3g9SL7q8kHjv2JQtEXyPGZ

btw, site is down at the moment.

regards

Sorry, that bonus was stopped a while ago.

Sorry for the downtime guys, the database had become corrupted and it took me a couple of hours to fix it but no data was lost and everything is back to normal now.

No it isn't, so ya dont need to post your addresses!
I thought I'd sign up and the site looks good, wasted my first roll all on bets straight away, nice and addictive like gambling should be!

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Quote from: wetsuit on January 21, 2014, 04:30:35 AM

As for your brother and friends, when they are experiencing this problem the next time, could you ask them to note down their IP's and then check if it clashes.

could it be that they have different accounts but both using the same bitcoin address?

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excellent, that's good to know about the payments! thanks!

I will note down their IP's and see if that has anything to do with it, bro should be round a few days! Will let ya know what happens.

Thanks for the help!

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Quote from: Mowcore on January 21, 2014, 04:20:27 AM

Yes ofc, sorry.

So on Sunday when the payout initiated my balance reset to 0.0000000 along with all my referrals earnings and the shares I had gave them. My pending payment was 0.00041500. Yesterday when I recieved that payment I got extra. The extra was everything me and refs had earned from sundays pending payout until receiving the actual payout yesterday. 0.00048028. This reset my balance to 0.00000000 again but did not reset my weekly referral gain. So my balance atm is 0.00003489 btc but my refs have got me 0.00006609. So basically I have got 2 payouts, 1 on Sunday and 1 just before receiving the actually pending payout.

About the phones, my brother has an xperia (chrome) and my friends both have iphones (safari i guess). I'll have a search on google, seems a tad more complex than I hoped it to be lol.

Oh yeah, I had implemented the payouts in such a way so that everyone who hit their payout limit on Monday, just before the payout was made, would get their payouts too because I used to get a lot of emails from people telling me that they hit the payout threshold on Monday but never got paid when it was the old system of payments going into pending on Sunday and actually getting sent on Monday.

I'll modify it so that it does not mess with the referral stats.

As for your brother and friends, when they are experiencing this problem the next time, could you ask them to note down their IP's and then check if it clashes.

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Yes ofc, sorry.

So on Sunday when the payout initiated my balance reset to 0.0000000 along with all my referrals earnings and the shares I had gave them. My pending payment was 0.00041500. Yesterday when I recieved that payment I got extra. The extra was everything me and refs had earned from sundays pending payout until receiving the actual payout yesterday. 0.00048028. This reset my balance to 0.00000000 again but did not reset my weekly referral gain. So my balance atm is 0.00003489 btc but my refs have got me 0.00006609. So basically I have got 2 payouts, 1 on Sunday and 1 just before receiving the actually pending payout.

About the phones, my brother has an xperia (chrome) and my friends both have iphones (safari i guess). I'll have a search on google, seems a tad more complex than I hoped it to be lol.

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