Another upset win by Morocco, ooofff
everyone will not be surprised to see it, morocco is the best now they can advance to the semi-finals of the world cup and of course it will be history for their team, it is worth admitting that they are the seeded team now they are no longer the underdog team like before, that's how football sometimes isn't always a great country that can survive in the world cup sometimes can be eliminated at the start, always a lot of surprises in this world cup 
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December 11, 2022, 05:28:39 PM
December 11, 2022, 05:11:55 PM
Anyway, I was under the impression the time weight multiplier always gave a boost to the final outcome odds, it just gives less of a boost to those who bet late.
If that was the case, the house would lose money. Assume that there's a match between teams A and B.
All the money that has been put on team A is 100 BTC and all the money that has been put on team B is 300 BTC. You have put 0.01 BTC on team A.
The total money is 400 BTC. 5% of that 400 BTC goes to the house and 95% of that goes to the winners. So, the prize pool is 380 BTC.
Team A wins the match and they should give your prize.
Assuming there is no time weight multiplier, you will get 380 * (0.01/100) = 0.038 BTC
If you have placed your bet early, you will get more than 0.038 BTC. Ask yourself where does the extra money come from.
The extra money comes from those winners who have placed their bet late.
If the house increase the winning amount of those who have placed their bet early without decreasing the winning amount of those how have placed their bet late, they will lose money and that's not possible.
December 11, 2022, 04:22:10 PM
Yes slaman29 but you shouldn't forget the Time Weight Multiplier which gives you a boost on the final odds, even when it is already low.
The time weight multiplier doesn't always increase the winning amount. Assume that the prize pool is 1 BTC and there are 100 winners.
If there was no time weight multiplier, each of the winners would get 0.01 BTC.
The time weight multiplier makes the profit of those who placed their bet early more than 0.01 BTC and those who placed their bet late less than 0.01 BTC.
Edit: Soslex shares the same opinion apparently
December 11, 2022, 04:20:28 PM
The time weight multiplier doesn't always increase the winning amount.
Assume that the prize pool is 1 BTC and there are 100 winners.
If there was no time weight multiplier, each of the winners would get 0.01 BTC.
The time weight multiplier makes the profit of those who placed their bet early more than 0.01 BTC and those who placed their bet late less than 0.01 BTC.
Assume that the prize pool is 1 BTC and there are 100 winners.
If there was no time weight multiplier, each of the winners would get 0.01 BTC.
The time weight multiplier makes the profit of those who placed their bet early more than 0.01 BTC and those who placed their bet late less than 0.01 BTC.
Are you sure about this? Your example assumes every winner who placed a bet placed the exact same bet amount, which is a pretty big assumption to make. Anyway, I was under the impression the time weight multiplier always gave a boost to the final outcome odds, it just gives less of a boost to those who bet late.
If someone knows the formula freebitco.in uses to calculate the betting payouts, it would be greatly appreciated if they could post it.
December 11, 2022, 03:17:20 PM
Another upset win by Morocco, ooofff
With all these upsets happening, I think this will be the best worldcup ever for bookmakers lol. Didn’t see the loss of Portugal and Brazil but that is how it goes in soccer sometimes.
Just won another 5000 RP with my WOF, one step closer again to reach the 100,000k mark!
This was the world cup which had the biggest number of upsets and I think bookies are very happy while bettors like us have taken a huge hit and most likely most of us are in big red by playing sport betting for the world cup event,personally I can't wait for it to end so we can restart the major soccer leagues and the Champions League,I am sure that we never so far have seen so many upsets and they are club teams not nationals which in national teams surprises should be less and less but from this world cup we saw that they are more and more.
Congrats on those 5000 RP.
December 11, 2022, 02:21:31 PM
Another upset win by Morocco, ooofff
With all these upsets happening, I think this will be the best worldcup ever for bookmakers lol. Didn’t see the loss of Portugal and Brazil but that is how it goes in soccer sometimes.
Just won another 5000 RP with my WOF, one step closer again to reach the 100,000k mark!
Ahh, the WOF lover. Keep it up mate. Last time I posted my results and I have hit around 150K mark already. I am very happy with my decision of staying premium on the freebitcoin. Its literally a habit now and like apple ecosystem I am tangled up with the feebitcoin ecosystem. I mean everyday I wanna click that blue Roll button, and I want to go for ride on the WOF wheel, and sometime surf through the bets and mutliplier. I think I am all stuck in the universe of freebitcoin now.
This is my second running year for the premium membership and I hope that I reach the mark of 1000K RP's soon. That's 10 times current state, I just hope it does not take 10 yrs though. Wish me luck.
December 11, 2022, 02:10:05 PM
That is really nice winnings from just 72 spins,I have already 78 which I collected by exchanging RP to WoF bonus in 3600 or 4 WoF for roll and still have not used them.I found out that a perfect strategy is to use them just before the bonus days in reward points when gambling for example x4 or x5 as I only play at that bonus and to increase your satoshi stash,as a gambler I have also the bonus which I can get double my initial amount to play during the bonus window.Last time I had 6600 Satoshi,also used the bonus to 13200 and in wagered amount this was translated to 276.000 Satoshi,so tons of RP earned by doing this.
Honestly tickets do pay out not that bad if you collect them enough. I usually let them go to waste most of the time unfortunately, and I should know better, it's my bad and I will try to do better in the future. I did follow through once, and got good returns. I just see this place as a place where I come in once in a while and have great fun and then leave, not something I check every single day, it's more like a bank and casino combined for me.I get affiliate income and also interest and have RP that I hope to turn into cash one day, I don't do faucets anymore, and I gamble once a month or so all of that away, and then next month I come back and do the same, so these wheel stuff is still a bit newer to me.
December 11, 2022, 01:09:48 PM
Another upset win by Morocco, ooofff
With all these upsets happening, I think this will be the best worldcup ever for bookmakers lol. Didn’t see the loss of Portugal and Brazil but that is how it goes in soccer sometimes.
Just won another 5000 RP with my WOF, one step closer again to reach the 100,000k mark!
December 11, 2022, 08:25:33 AM
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Hi @TheQuin, why are wagering and referral contests not announced on twitter nor on freebitco's contest site?
==> People are obsessed with football these days... me too. I think it may take a while.
===> The game is over... Portugal lost, and so did I...
===> Still didn't see the wagering and referral contests list? That's never happend in the last few months. Can't trace the players still living now!
December 11, 2022, 04:24:52 AM
@pawanjain, dude congratulations man. That’s serious winning dude, and as far as I know that is “very huge” conversion in your loca currency. It could be couple of months salary for locals there. That’s shit ton of money for you. Definitely big win from small bet that was placed. I’m surprised how much money was made by others too. Because in the screenshot we can still see there are other players who have taken this risk. Now that is also one of the ways to win big. But definitely not everyone gonna take such risks that too with big bets like this dude.
I think you have got it wrong. It is @Saint-loup who has won a big reward by placing a bet on Croatia.
I had just won 5k satoshis which I ended up losing it all since I placed the bet on Brazil.
Another upset win by Morocco, ooofff
Certainly this time the underdogs are performing really well. Whether it be Croatia or Morocco but they are still in the game because of two reasons.
1. They performed better than they could.
2. The opponents performed worse than their previous matches.
Let's see how things go in the Semi Finals now. I guess Argentina and France will take it to the finals but you never know what the underdogs are capable of.
December 11, 2022, 01:46:02 AM
I guess I am really lucky today. I just won 5000 satoshis after so long time from the WoF spins.
Actually I was going to bet on Croatia vs Brazil match and put the bet on Brazil ofcourse.
But I was confused of the amount I should bet on Brazil.
I had 36 WoF spins and so I though lets spin all of them and put the BTC I receive from it as a bet on Brazil.
Who knew I would 5650 sats lol. But yeah it's a decent bet to place I guess. So here we go with 5650 sats on Brazil.
I once got 5k satoshi 2x in a month, you are lucky to get that too, congrats guysActually I was going to bet on Croatia vs Brazil match and put the bet on Brazil ofcourse.
But I was confused of the amount I should bet on Brazil.
I had 36 WoF spins and so I though lets spin all of them and put the BTC I receive from it as a bet on Brazil.
Who knew I would 5650 sats lol. But yeah it's a decent bet to place I guess. So here we go with 5650 sats on Brazil.
by the way, did you win your bet, while we know that Brazil has lost on penalties to Croatia but in the screenshot there are no draw bets and usually football bets are only available and calculated for 90 minutes only and the result for Brazil vs Croatia is a draw when viewed from 90 minutes , so whether your money is returned or lost, I do not gamble on the moment
BTW congratulations for your win betting for croatia even I don't dare to make a decision like you are betting with big risks where everyone also favors brazil to win in the penalty shootout
December 11, 2022, 12:41:07 AM
@hosseninimr93 I totally agree with you, because personally I have seen lower odds then what was shown when I wagered even at 99.99% weight multiplier.
Of course, the change in the odds isn't only due to that and it's possible that the final odds are even higher than the odds you see when placing your bet. Freebitco uses parimutuel betting system. The odds depend on which outcome other users will bet on and it's normal that they are not fixed.
December 11, 2022, 12:12:54 AM
Another upset win by Morocco, ooofff
December 10, 2022, 11:27:17 PM
Yes slaman29 but you shouldn't forget the Time Weight Multiplier which gives you a boost on the final odds, even when it is already low.
The time weight multiplier doesn't always increase the winning amount. Assume that the prize pool is 1 BTC and there are 100 winners.
If there was no time weight multiplier, each of the winners would get 0.01 BTC.
The time weight multiplier makes the profit of those who placed their bet early more than 0.01 BTC and those who placed their bet late less than 0.01 BTC.
@hosseninimr93 I totally agree with you, because personally I have seen lower odds then what was shown when I wagered even at 99.99% weight multiplier. Furthermore how many of you’ll lost your bets when Morocco eliminated Portugal yesterday, because I thought that Ronaldo would inspire Portugal to win but looks like this year only keeps getting worst for Ronaldo.
December 10, 2022, 05:00:29 PM
Yes slaman29 but you shouldn't forget the Time Weight Multiplier which gives you a boost on the final odds, even when it is already low.
The time weight multiplier doesn't always increase the winning amount. Assume that the prize pool is 1 BTC and there are 100 winners.
If there was no time weight multiplier, each of the winners would get 0.01 BTC.
The time weight multiplier makes the profit of those who placed their bet early more than 0.01 BTC and those who placed their bet late less than 0.01 BTC.
December 10, 2022, 04:29:23 PM
That's a side effect of having too many Argentina fans here ;-) The odds are calculated based on bets, so we have what we made ourselves. It is even 1.29 right now.
Do you know what are other sites odds for England(2.15) - France(1.35) ?
Do you know what are other sites odds for England(2.15) - France(1.35) ?
Thanks Saint-loup for pointing it out that this was qualification odds
But still I used to bet some money on FBC for Barcelona esepcially but the commissions I think are just way too high or the algorithm needs to change (I mentioned before but anyway). I think they can afford to make half commission change to really make the odds attractive.Odds are changed now on FBC for England is 1.98 and France 1.32.
England is 2.05 and France 1.75 on my usual site so it looks like you lose a bit from England but you lose even worse for Favourites.
December 10, 2022, 02:32:46 PM
@pawanjain, dude congratulations man. That’s serious winning dude, and as far as I know that is “very huge” conversion in your loca currency. It could be couple of months salary for locals there. That’s shit ton of money for you. Definitely big win from small bet that was placed. I’m surprised how much money was made by others too. Because in the screenshot we can still see there are other players who have taken this risk. Now that is also one of the ways to win big. But definitely not everyone gonna take such risks that too with big bets like this dude.
December 10, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Something pretty rare happened to me yesterday. Decided I wanted to get the 5000 sats I had in my wager bonus, and since 4RP bonus was still active I thought why not get a GT and rack up bonus points, but in the "safer" method than I normally do.
So 10000 rolls on 1 sat and simple martingale. And boom, busted within 1000 rolls. No need to say how much, lol.
Usually I manage to get several GTs just doing it this way for a couple of times or so. Now I must hunt my luck elsewhere for a while more.
That’s the point of betting here, it's player controlled and not place controlled, which means people usually bet on something they see guaranteed and get a lower return, but usually that means the other side has worse odds, like in a normal place one team gets 2.10 and here it gets 1.34 but then the other team gets 3.00 in other places but 5.00 here type of deal.So 10000 rolls on 1 sat and simple martingale. And boom, busted within 1000 rolls. No need to say how much, lol.
Usually I manage to get several GTs just doing it this way for a couple of times or so. Now I must hunt my luck elsewhere for a while more.
For this specific game it looks neither to be fair, so I agree with you, but freebitco.in doesn't decide on the odds, we all do based on how much we wager, and that should be the reason why you may not see odds that you like here, it may look like not worth taking the risk overall.
December 10, 2022, 01:16:02 PM
December 10, 2022, 12:55:15 PM
No I don't think pawanjain got a push and a refund of his stake, because as you can see below it wasn't a Draw No Bet, but a bet on the team that will qualify for the next round after the end of the game. As I explained above, many people thought that Croatia will play in a very defensive way, in order to try to keep a clean sheet and to beat Brazil at penalty shootouts like Morocco did against Spain. So odds on "to qualify" bets for Croatia were very interesting, I guessed it was a value bet and I luckily placed a big amount of satoshis (one million) on Croatia, despite being very risky.
It looks like the average bet size was only 5k sats, considering the prize pool and the total number of bets in that event. So it's even more surprising that Saint-loup placed such a big bet on Croatia's win, even though it was very risky. Honestly, it seems to me that Saint-loup has a good understanding of soccer since he was so sure that Croatia's defense is stronger than Brazil's offense.
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