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Topic: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest - page 611. (Read 562485 times)

newbie
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Where did you get that information? I'm not sure that's true.

I think Freebitco.in has 5% House Edge. Please correct me if I am wrong.
You don't believe me? Then check it out. Roll 10, 100, 1 000, 10 000 times, and then you will believe me.
How the House Edge could be bigger than 5%? I don't understand. The Hi-Lo game is provably fair, you can change your client seed for every roll while knowing the server seed hash. For 2.0 odds, winning ranges are 0-4750 and 5250-10000 then the RTP is 2.0 x 47.5%=95%
So many days have passed and you still haven't checked the House Edge?
Why I would do that 16xypjnxlrew? The game is provably fair, you can change the client seed for whatever seed you want before each roll and you can check the outcome after each roll.  Then even if the game is not fully random with the default generated client seeds you can make it fully random with your personal seeds. But if you have found a way to get more 0-4750 numbers than 5250-10000 ones or the opposite, please tell me how you are doing because I want to make money too...
Roll through 10,000 bets and compare the balance before and after. If you bet 10,000 times for 1 sat you will lose 1,500 sat at the end (10,000*15% = 1,500) not 500 sat (10,000*5% = 500)
member
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Provably fair is literally "provably" fair. It is not "that is what we assume it is", it is literally "you can check it whenever you want and see that you are not getting scammed". People who still think that a casino is scamming them in this day and age when we have literal provable data that shows that casinos can't scam you, sounds really like a person who has no idea what is going on.

No the casino didn't scam you, you just hit an unlucky streak and lost your money, it happens, it happened to all of us, you will get used to. Instead of accepting the reality of the situation, trying to create an imaginary situation where you get scammed otherwise you would never lose that much, will only hurt you longer, doesn't really impact the casino or other gamblers.

Provable fairness means you should be able to mathematically prove the result of a bet. It does not mean you cannot get scammed. Provably fair is not infallible because it can be exploited or as was the case with Coinpot's multiplier game they can just make up any result they want and hope people aren't bothering to verify each roll.

I respect the thesis and write up but i doubt the word fair should be in the statement. Instead of provably fair it should just be tagged provable because Once something is used for exploitation, the fact that it can be proven is insufficient to make said exploitation a fair act.
legendary
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Where did you get that information? I'm not sure that's true.

I think Freebitco.in has 5% House Edge. Please correct me if I am wrong.
You don't believe me? Then check it out. Roll 10, 100, 1 000, 10 000 times, and then you will believe me.
How the House Edge could be bigger than 5%? I don't understand. The Hi-Lo game is provably fair, you can change your client seed for every roll while knowing the server seed hash. For 2.0 odds, winning ranges are 0-4750 and 5250-10000 then the RTP is 2.0 x 47.5%=95%
So many days have passed and you still haven't checked the House Edge?
Why I would do that 16xypjnxlrew? The game is provably fair, you can change the client seed for whatever seed you want before each roll and you can check the outcome after each roll.  Then even if the game is not fully random with the default generated client seeds you can make it fully random with your personal seeds. But if you have found a way to get more 0-4750 numbers than 5250-10000 ones or the opposite, please tell me how you are doing because I want to make money too...
newbie
Activity: 500
Merit: 0
Where did you get that information? I'm not sure that's true.

I think Freebitco.in has 5% House Edge. Please correct me if I am wrong.
You don't believe me? Then check it out. Roll 10, 100, 1 000, 10 000 times, and then you will believe me.
How the House Edge could be bigger than 5%? I don't understand. The Hi-Lo game is provably fair, you can change your client seed for every roll while knowing the server seed hash. For 2.0 odds, winning ranges are 0-4750 and 5250-10000 then the RTP is 2.0 x 47.5%=95%
So many days have passed and you still haven't checked the House Edge?
sr. member
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You have mentioned on your site that you are offering 50% REFERRAL COMMISSIONS FOR LIFE.
But it seems not to live yet. It looks like a user-friendly website but no option found for live support.

Also, no option for social media signup is incorporated in this site. Which in my opinion must be incorporated.
hero member
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Merit: 537
My passive income eBook @ tinyurl.com/PIA10

That little thing always triggered my OCD, i had to always check if the page loaded or not from mobile.

Btw to owners, never thought of an official app? I saw a lot of nockoff apps, but i never trusted them.

It's been asked in the past, but there's no need to.

The website is responsive, so it adjusts itself on mobile devices.
newbie
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I think something get misreaded from the database in the today lottery winners lol

https://i.ibb.co/rb21T1H/Screenshot-20211031-183520.jpg


Edit: ok now work showing the round 335
STT
legendary
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lol genius line of thought there, depends on your personal reality you prefer to imagine.   If you are determined to be negative enough its possible to think of every outcome as a loss, you wont live forever so its all negative in the end.   The sun is going to collapse in a few years or so, everything on earth will be blown back to its simple neutron origins I dont know why people bother.
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newbie
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At last , I see a bug has been fixed.
Now after clicking on "lottery" option the menu disappears.
This issue was on mobile browsers for long time.

That little thing always triggered my OCD, i had to always check if the page loaded or not from mobile.

Btw to owners, never thought of an official app? I saw a lot of nockoff apps, but i never trusted them.
jr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 6
I won 1 golden ticket

 Grin

Lol whata waste of a roll reward.  Those and lottery tickets == losses in reality.
jr. member
Activity: 248
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At last , I see a bug has been fixed.
Now after clicking on "lottery" option the menu disappears.
This issue was on mobile browsers for long time.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
The website went down for a couple of second? I was doing auto rolls and lost near 0.00130 becouse the rolls stopped rolling and the page auto refreshed as server error  Angry if i saw right was the cloudfire error page 52X something

It is impossible that you lost anything because the rolls stopped. That's a contradiction. If the rolls stopped you can't have placed a bet so you couldn't lose a bet. It is also completely false to say that the page auto refreshed as a server error. Only your browser can refresh the page.

Thsts the point the auto roll stopped, i set up auto roll to add % everytime i lose, and stop at the first win, so i can profit on loses strike, but if the server stop responding, i lose the bet becouse i do not reach the first win after the lose strike, example, this is a single auto roll run.
~snip
P.s. auto roll in multiply if was not clear.

It's not possible to lose because of a server error. The most that can happen is that the bet would stop.
In this case your auto bet would stop and if you would lose the bet if you didn't hit the number.
But that doesn't mean you can't continue the bet. Just start the bet with the same amount and same % increase.
Hence you would be able to continue your bet and thus you will reach your first win at some point.

I too agree as it’s impossible for you to lose, but from what you’re saying I feel that you should reach out to @TheQuin via pm and ask him to check the last rolls that you’re mentioning, if he feels your recent explanation deserves inspection I’m sure he’ll take care it.

However do note if he feels you have misjudged it, then he’ll not investigate it and he’ll have the full support of the entire community because he’s known to take fair and correct decisions.

I was probably caught up in the heat of the moment and was misjudged by what I wrote initially, I'm not here to ask for a refund, I just wanted to share my bad experience and expose the problem.
in the sense that if they want to investigate it, I'm available. but mainly I wrote to bring to light what happened

i mean there's always no problems if no one report them.
hero member
Activity: 2646
Merit: 686
The website went down for a couple of second? I was doing auto rolls and lost near 0.00130 becouse the rolls stopped rolling and the page auto refreshed as server error  Angry if i saw right was the cloudfire error page 52X something

It is impossible that you lost anything because the rolls stopped. That's a contradiction. If the rolls stopped you can't have placed a bet so you couldn't lose a bet. It is also completely false to say that the page auto refreshed as a server error. Only your browser can refresh the page.

Thsts the point the auto roll stopped, i set up auto roll to add % everytime i lose, and stop at the first win, so i can profit on loses strike, but if the server stop responding, i lose the bet becouse i do not reach the first win after the lose strike, example, this is a single auto roll run.
~snip
P.s. auto roll in multiply if was not clear.

It's not possible to lose because of a server error. The most that can happen is that the bet would stop.
In this case your auto bet would stop and if you would lose the bet if you didn't hit the number.
But that doesn't mean you can't continue the bet. Just start the bet with the same amount and same % increase.
Hence you would be able to continue your bet and thus you will reach your first win at some point.

I too agree as it’s impossible for you to lose, but from what you’re saying I feel that you should reach out to @TheQuin via pm and ask him to check the last rolls that you’re mentioning, if he feels your recent explanation deserves inspection I’m sure he’ll take care it.

However do note if he feels you have misjudged it, then he’ll not investigate it and he’ll have the full support of the entire community because he’s known to take fair and correct decisions.
hero member
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Merit: 716
Nothing lasts forever
The website went down for a couple of second? I was doing auto rolls and lost near 0.00130 becouse the rolls stopped rolling and the page auto refreshed as server error  Angry if i saw right was the cloudfire error page 52X something

It is impossible that you lost anything because the rolls stopped. That's a contradiction. If the rolls stopped you can't have placed a bet so you couldn't lose a bet. It is also completely false to say that the page auto refreshed as a server error. Only your browser can refresh the page.

Thsts the point the auto roll stopped, i set up auto roll to add % everytime i lose, and stop at the first win, so i can profit on loses strike, but if the server stop responding, i lose the bet becouse i do not reach the first win after the lose strike, example, this is a single auto roll run.
~snip
P.s. auto roll in multiply if was not clear.

It's not possible to lose because of a server error. The most that can happen is that the bet would stop.
In this case your auto bet would stop and if you would lose the bet if you didn't hit the number.
But that doesn't mean you can't continue the bet. Just start the bet with the same amount and same % increase.
Hence you would be able to continue your bet and thus you will reach your first win at some point.
jr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 2

Thsts the point the auto roll stopped, i set up auto roll to add % everytime i lose, and stop at the first win, so i can profit on loses strike, but if the server stop responding, i lose the bet becouse i do not reach the first win after the lose strike, example, this is a single auto roll run.



P.s. auto roll in multiply if was not clear.

Upload an screenshot from those rolls.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
The website went down for a couple of second? I was doing auto rolls and lost near 0.00130 becouse the rolls stopped rolling and the page auto refreshed as server error  Angry if i saw right was the cloudfire error page 52X something

It is impossible that you lost anything because the rolls stopped. That's a contradiction. If the rolls stopped you can't have placed a bet so you couldn't lose a bet. It is also completely false to say that the page auto refreshed as a server error. Only your browser can refresh the page.

Thsts the point the auto roll stopped, i set up auto roll to add % everytime i lose, and stop at the first win, so i can profit on loses strike, but if the server stop responding, i lose the bet becouse i do not reach the first win after the lose strike, example, this is a single auto roll run.
https://i.ibb.co/7gqdgT8/Screenshot-20211030-062531.jpg


P.s. auto roll in multiply if was not clear.
hero member
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Is that not what he's saying? The browser refreshed the page automatically like it does when the faucet timer goes to 0.

That wasn't what he said but if it was what he meant there is a DO NOT REFRESH box to tick to stop it from happening.

If a meta refresh is triggered while there is a server problem it would've loaded the Cloudflare error page.

Any which way about it an outage can't cause a loss.
newbie
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Merit: 1
The website went down for a couple of second? I was doing auto rolls and lost near 0.00130 becouse the rolls stopped rolling and the page auto refreshed as server error  Angry if i saw right was the cloudfire error page 52X something

I received the same error when I went to do a free roll.

The website went down for a couple of second? I was doing auto rolls and lost near 0.00130 becouse the rolls stopped rolling and the page auto refreshed as server error  Angry if i saw right was the cloudfire error page 52X something


Only your browser can refresh the page.

Is that not what he's saying? The browser refreshed the page automatically like it does when the faucet timer goes to 0. If a meta refresh is triggered while there is a server problem it would've loaded the Cloudflare error page.
jr. member
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Personally, I don't have time to play with these things and check server seed hashes before and every roll, but you have good point that such things is difficult to prove. But I think that if someone from this forum with good reputation would record such video, there would be no reasons not believe him. But now we just have some talk without any solid proofs.

That's already been done by several people in the scam accusations forum and has spanned multiple years between posts which shows the practice is still current and never ceased.  Like I said before,  NO ONE can "show solid proof",  it's something they have to experience for themselves (which my bot provided via it's statistics) and those that give this statement, like I said, are ones who dont actually save anything themselves or they would have noticed it.  It took about 12000 rolls (around 1.5yrs or so) before I saw it twice with my own account (although I'd seen it much sooner than that via stats the bot gathered).  When TheQuack decided to ban the account yesterday after I posted my Free Roll stats window (I guess he finally noticed I did indeed have a bot rolling and RECORDING it all 24/7 365 it was over 29K rolls,  that same bot did the same thing for 596 accounts for 3 years,  recording roll statistics),  it was to late.  I'd already seen the manipulation multiple times myself on my own account as well as my bot's users,  we were all well aware of the manipulation on free rolls.  None of us really cared if those are manipulated or not but we did find it underhanded to market it as "provably fair" when it's only partially "provably fair".  As long as the roll fell below Tier 4, roll results were never manipulated.  To us it was the dice rolls that mattered and over the millions of rolls I recorded,  I saw no manipulation of those (my guess is that its easier to prove dice roll manipulation since you can do 4 per second as opposed to 1 per hr for free rolls).  He can try to hide it publicly all he wants,  but I know the truth and so does he.  Or maybe he doesnt,  and he's truly in the dark but I highly doubt that.

Well, I want to believe you, but the question is how do you know that the rolled number was 999x and they replaced the server seed to change it?
At least you are saying it never happened to the multiply game, this is good, because if they wanted to cheat anyone they would do that in the multiply.
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