Topic: FREEMAN ON THE LAND (Read 610 times)

The CREATOR allows it because all people die. They die because they don't have the technology to keep themselves alive. And the CREATOR won't keep them alive unless they are prominent in spreading, "Christ and Him crucified."

This whole universe is going down because of Satan contamination. The CREATOR can make a new body for His people, and He will, at the right time, in the new universe.

At the judgment, the CREATOR will test the quality of the former life of every person. Everybody who believed in Jesus-salvation, and proved it by living a better life, will be saved. Everybody else will be damned.

The CREATOR made this gigantic universe in 6 days. Jesus has been gone for 2,000 years preparing a new place for His people. Does anybody want to miss out on that new place?

No law breaker gets freedom. Like a dog on leash, the purpose of government controlling the humans is to prevent them from straying away and causing problems. The leash is taken away and freedom given when the humans nolonger create problems as freemen.
By the way, the CREATOR allows this. Humans were given freedom in the beginning, but it was misused, and they lost the freedom.

Being a freeman on the land doesn't mean anything if people won't exercise their freedom. You can find stories, daily, about how somebody attempted to use his freedom, only to have it take away by government. Examples of this are the freedom to drink milk straight from the cow, and some of the things the Amish are doing. Government is trying to stop freedom. The question is what to do.

The first thing to do is to recognize where government bases its power. They base their power in quasi-contracts that people have made with government. Government people are simply using wording in the laws to control people. To contradict this, people need to know where they are in their freedom, and how to say it when responding to government.

The first thing to do is to realize that you are not the 'person' written on any paperwork that government names a name like yours on. Then you need to let government know that you are a man/woman, but not that 'person' that they name. 'Acceptance' is a legal term. Don't accept. But if you use the legal term, you have accepted just by using it. So, 'Cf' it... which means you are simply comparing yourself to the legal term without using the legal term.

Take it to court in that way. Have people with you who can observe the government, and who will fight the government activity with you. For example, take about 30 friends who understand this with you into court. Let them form a Grand Jury against the judge when he tries to say or indicate that you are the name on a piece of government paper that doesn't have your signature on it.

Stand as a man/woman only. Then government has to find some damage that was done by you before they can prosecute you. If you hire an attorney, you have contracted with government to let government decide your case. Hire non-attorney paralegals who know their way through the law, but don't speak for you in court. If it is important enough that you want to fight it, speak for yourself.

If you don't want to step out of your contracts with government, go the route of Private Membership Association, where you are free from govt with govt's blessing.

Remember that if you don't use your freedom, there is no real worth in having it.

Natural freedoms and rights are a concept proven by practice. No society is suffering from too much freedom, and all are suffering from too much tyranny. I delineate a difference between freedoms and rights. The freeman movement is a step above the sovcit movement by a focus on freedom, but both are missing a critical part of societal foundation. Both are missing the concept of root authority, which was partly addressed in the previous comments by others in this thread. Proper authority is authority of principle. This means that one who has proper virtues and values has proper authority. There is great authority in love, peace, and truth, and so I believe the divine realm has a higher authority than that of man.

What the Freeman movement is missing is a governing body, and for that reason it's ability to flourish is limited. I advocate for a Cooperative Republic by which one chooses anyone one wishes to represent them upon emancipation of adulthood. This these representatives which can be one's self then further choose representation until further delegation isn't wanted. And finally all these representatives negotiate as needed to defend each other's freedom's using all the rights of force available. What this does is enable networking while adding the force of strength in numbers. There are two written works linked to in my signature that explain this well: Caroasi and Rainbow Rock.

(from Rainbow Rock: Philosophic Cooperation: Civics: Natural Society:)
Natural Liberties   The design of our universe guides us to liberties that naturally maximize our potential as a civilization. These liberties granted by nature begin with natural freedoms and expand with natural rights. For absolute and unwavering success, our liberties stand absolute and unwavering in dangerous situations, hazardous circumstances, and states of emergency. Our natural freedoms when protected by force become civic freedoms, and the method of protecting those freedoms are our civic rights. We enable voluntary choices and voluntary association, defend against harm, defend against property damage, do justice, and equalize opportunity, as developed from the Rainbow Rock virtues. Complete liberty can be secured for all emancipated people, not just one ruling class or people, through great sacrifice of body, mind, and labor. Our rights and freedoms end only where other's begin.
Natural Rules   We follow the rules of nature because that provides effective and positive consequences without any mandate.
   Golden Rule   Care for others at least as well as you care for your self. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
   Carbon Rule   Live and let live. Leave others alone as they leave you alone.
   Noble Gas Rule   Words against words, blades against blades. We limit our self to expression against wrongful expression, not force.
Natural Consequences   People who make mistakes with liberties and people who treat others abusively but without physical violence under natural liberties do not go unpunished. The natural negative consequences including dishonor, distrust, social ostracism, and banishment from privately owned places, are sufficient to resolve all non-violent abuses of liberty. Inevitable negative effects are upon both the wrongful and their cared ones.
Natural Duties   People who seek belonging to civilization are expected to participate as a civil servant to enhance civilization as they expect others to do the same. These civil duties are voluntary. People who fill their duties are expected to be honored, while people who neglect their duties are expected to be dishonored. When enough people tend to their duties, civilization flourishes.
(source: Rainbow Rock, link in signature below)

There are eight fundamental freedoms of humankind:
Freedom of Belief such as to believe anything one wishes with only consequence of nature.
Freedom of Expression such as to express anything one wishes with only consequence of nature.
Freedom of Labor to work as one wishes with only consequence of nature.
Freedom of Travel on open or public land with only consequence of nature.
Freedom of Association to associate with anyone one wishes with only consequences of nature.
Freedom of Trade to create and trade anything or service the laws of physics allow with only the consequences of nature.
Freedom of Assembly to gather in any numbers in any open place or public land with only consequences of nature.
Freedom of Choice as emancipated people to consume anything one wishes which the laws of physics allow, to have any voluntarily relationships of consent with others one wishes, and to help or harm each other in any way by consent only, with only consequences of nature.

Thanks OP, I hope to see you more in the politics section! I have yet to find anyone interested in joining Caroasi but its nice that you're movement has thousands of followers.

aww it is cute to see the young idiots think they have found solace in the cult/social trend that died out over a decade ago called the freeman/sovereign movement...

spoiler alert: there is no hidden bank account you can use if you join the cult
spoiler alert: courts dont bend over backwards and set you free if you just say you are in the cult and that the court has no jurisdiction
spoiler alert: operating a motor of any kind on local government maintained property, means that you DO have to follow their rules
spoiler alert: pretending laws dont apply to you doesnt absolve you of the laws, infact it can get you in more trouble ignoring laws
spoiler alert: the sovereign/freeman cult movement isnt a loophole of government laws/jurisdiction.
spoiler alert: other cult members wont magically appear to defend you and pay your fines/bail/legal costs

what you do find is that by admitting you belong to a cult, malicious people note that you are naive and easily led and put you on a blacklist of potential victims, targetting you for scams and malicious acts

you become a target for advertising by glorified masseuses promoting animal medications as cures for human cancers/viruses. telling you to take these erroneous described medications daily as a preventative supplement.. demanding you to pay them continuously, pretending you then dont have cancer/virus because they prevented it.. rather then you not having cancer/virus because you simply didnt have cancer/virus when you started being duped by scammers

A.I. knows whats coming, freedom for all. Only the creator can make Laws and not any politician ever. Company policy is not a law.
Law has always been very clear every Human is equal, no equal can tell another equal what he/she has to do, doing so is breaking the law.
https://x.com/420roundabout/status/1865058369461010862?t=TX9pwTqPbGEDmBdZYg3-zw&s=09

Sergeant Robert Horton breaks down the Title 4 flag, Maritime Law, and why 1999 was an event horizon year that changed history
https://x.com/sumaiya1717/status/1865200928946524273?t=WeezGzYKuJh5gskVXtv01g&s=09

I commend you for standing in the protection of Jesus and the Father.

When Jesus was tempted by Satan in the wilderness, one of the things He said was, "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." All those mouth-of-God words are the physics of the universe that God set in place in Genesis chapter 1. We could not live on bread if the universe didn't allow for the growing of grain, etc., where bread comes from.

At the end of the temptation, after Satan left Jesus, angels came and ministered to Him. Did they feed Him? It doesn't say directly. But they probably did. So...

The miracles are built into the universe, as well. But it seems that we all die ... except Enoch, Elijah, and maybe Melchizedek. But God doesn't speak in His Word about everyone and everything in the world, directly. So, maybe there were more who didn't die, but were take home by translation.

Continue to fill up on the Word of God. Perhaps you will become one of them... if the end doesn't come first.

An open secret to being a freeman and truely be free is to live in the protection of our CREATOR which is given to those who are saved by MESSIAH JESUS. In HIM we have peace but outside of HIM there is no peace.
To live in HIM is to believe in HIS Words and do them. Then the Word becomes active around you, acting as your security, your shield, your defender, your guide, your spokesperson, etc. Once you have this guaranteed protection around you you need not to worry about anyone coming to attack you.

But without this guaranteed protection, freedom becomes an illusion. Whereever you run to from the enemy, he is still there with you ready to attack through the beasts, diseases, people, etc  because of the lack of necessary immunity.
There is a reason why certain jungle people look the way they look. They are constantly under attack because of lack of immunity. In the end their population is greatly diminished, wiped out or subjugated.

The bad thing is that the state is trying to put pressure on even these Fremen.

Freeman on the Land and the Sea

TEDx Talk of Ghislaine Maxwell "Here is my Passport to Terramar"
https://x.com/i/status/1853224317229658476

Yo right to Travel,No License, Registration, Insurance, Plates
https://youtu.be/9wsz-2vTlKY

Your body your choice
Mark Passio: Natural Law Seminar (Lengthy but worth it in my opinion)
https://rumble.com/v2cffgo-mark-passio-natural-law-seminar-full.html

The point of that website is this. IN US law, a person is an artificial entity, not a man or woman. The only way that a man or woman can be a person is by agreeing to be one. But if the man/woman doesn't realize this, he/she doesn't know to say that they are not the person in question, when government asks if they are the person on some paperwork.

The first short clause in the 4th Amendment ( https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fourth_amendment ) says this: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons... ." What? How many 'persons' am I? One of your persons is any document, mostly a contract or agreement, that has a name on it that looks like your name - is spelled like your name - and your signature is at the bottom.

Government, because it is an artificial entity, created by men and women, can't attack you, a man or woman, for anything. All it can attack is other artificial entities. If government tries to attack you, it always has paperwork - like an indictment - that attacks the person named on the document. Then government tries to get you, the man/woman, to agree that you are the artificial entity person on the document.

Is an indictment with a name that looks like yours on it... is it one of your persons like in the 4th Amendment? NO? It is a fictitious entity that government created, and placed your name at the top. But you have to let them know that their entity isn't you, or even one of your persons. Your silence on the matter is all it takes for you to agree that you are their person... according to rules of estoppel.

https://redress4dummies.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/office-of-person1.pdf

^^^^^^^  Saved it and will have to re-read it again.

The people just need to stand up and the banking mafia's dirty game of world politics with wars, wage slaves  is over

But the point is deeper. If a corporate government thinks it has authority over you, and challenges you on it through arrest or the courts, if you don't properly respond, you have inadvertently given them authority. You need to know the meaning of words that they use, and then choke them on their own words. For example, a person is not what you think. "Office of the Person" - https://redress4dummies.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/office-of-person1.pdf.

Freedom is just that, to freely life a peaceful life without harassment, intimidation or forced company policies. (Every government is a company)
Claiming/selling anything else as freedom is a fraud.
Fact of the matter is some people can not handle it and will need a guardian all there life. The same as some will never recover from the COVID scars inflicted. Witnessed with own eyes, yesterday someone cleaning the window in second floor with the mask on, sad.

A Freeman not a asset of any company.
Searching with the correct name you will find any company. Here are some company's.
U S Government
GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL
GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Petersburg, State government 
GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN

God was not created by any man. It might be hard to believe if you are not a member of any religion but we believe that there is a God that created all things.
You rightly said that breaking free from oppression is not instant but procedural because pushing for an instant change can lead to violence. The teaching of Freeman is good but like you said one sometimes needs to leave an authoritarian country to be able to practice these teachings. But immigration restrictions is one of the biggest impediment for men that want to be free to relocate to nations that can tolerate them or grant them this freedom.

An AI computer might ask who created mankind, the computer's creator. But both man, and the computer are limited to slivers of this universe, and can only conceive of things that they are a part of.

God, having created this whole universe, is outside of it. And by His desire He is inside of it as well. We, being limited to the things of the universe, don't know and can't conceive of things that are outside of it. Such things are completely foreign to us. Because of this, we don't know if God has a creator or if He is simply eternally existent... no beginning and no end.

However, God was gracious enough, and friendly with us, His AI, that He let us know that He is eternal. He let us know this through His Word to us... the Bible. The only reason that we even know that He is masculine is that He tells us. Things can't be different than they are, but if they could be, God might not have a sexual preference for Himself.

I for one am really a big fan of freedom but at the same time not that much? I don't really know how to explain it but maybe it's because different people have different views about freedom and to what extent should be tolerated for it to still be still called freedom and not just abuse. I'm getting influenced by dozens of things around me that it clouds my own perspectives. The only thing I know though is that everything really has to have a limit to maintain order. I think absolute freedom won't really work well in this world. Afterall, anything that's too much never really resulted in anything good as far as I know.

If you believe god is the creator of the universe, then who created god?
The collective of all human gods my be referred to as they "God". 

The breaking free struggle is a slow gradual process. It may also be necessary to change country as some move faster than others. The mafia is to deep-rooted in some places and change will take a very long time.