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PSG have failed in the Champions League this season and now only leaves regret amongst the fans. I don't really know how Pochettino is going to do with PSG while at Tottenham he's still an average looking coach. Several times he managed to bring Tottenham to the Champions League, but failed in the end so that experience was not enough to lift PSG's motivation to win.

Pochettino is not a coach who talks a lot on the touchline, he is more silent and evaluates the performance of his players on the bench and that kind of thing is not enough to get the players excited during the match. PSG need a coach who can change the dressing room atmosphere for the better and I don't think Pochettiono has that. I think he will be sacked after the season is over.

PSG recently performance isn't as good as what we expected, the team has really loosed focus in winning games. Thou the team has a very good squad but no team work, they are lacking confidence in playing games they needs to come up with a new pattern of play. I think they need a more experience Coach than their recent coach, a discipline and experience Coach, someone well dedicated to the team that can correct the wrong of any player despite their standard.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 29, 2022, 06:07:40 PM

A professional coach doesn't depend on how long he has been a coach but how his track record and also performance in building and developing the team.

You are right. Professional coaches do not rely on experience. Depending on his qualifications. I can see my Xavi as an example of this. His career as a coach is not very long. Nevertheless, he has strengthened the now-defunct Barcelona team. Their match strategy has changed. Bringing back the confidence of the players.
But PSG coach Pochettino is probably much more experienced. But still he was not able to make any improvement of PSG. PSG has deteriorated further day by day. Manajemeton did not get any benefit even after spending a lot of money.

Pochettino cannot be called an inexperienced coach. His coaching experience is many years. He is experienced enough. Moreover, when he became the coach of PSG, everyone relied on him and thought that he might be able to change the overall condition of PSG. But he failed. He should have helped to increase the mutual understanding between the new players. This is most needed when playing with a new team. But the PSG players were not friendly. I blame the coaches as well as the players for PSG's poor performance.

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PSG must be getting ready for their probable new manager for next season. And this is most probably going to be Zinedine Zidane. This would be no surprise for us in fact because we already know how much they have been interested in him. And I don't expect any rejection from him against joining the team. I see him as the only manager who can carry this team to bigger achievements. I mean the Champions League of course. They still can't win the title and it must be really annoying. Because they have one of the best lineups in the world now.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 29, 2022, 06:07:40 PM

A professional coach doesn't depend on how long he has been a coach but how his track record and also performance in building and developing the team.

You are right. Professional coaches do not rely on experience. Depending on his qualifications. I can see my Xavi as an example of this. His career as a coach is not very long. Nevertheless, he has strengthened the now-defunct Barcelona team. Their match strategy has changed. Bringing back the confidence of the players.
But PSG coach Pochettino is probably much more experienced. But still he was not able to make any improvement of PSG. PSG has deteriorated further day by day. Manajemeton did not get any benefit even after spending a lot of money.

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Quote from: judas on March 29, 2022, 04:47:29 PM

I will be watching the Nice - Rennes game probably. Because it is an important game for the third place in the standings. It is important for the second place too in fact but it will be depending on the result Marseille will get this week. Rennes have got ahead of Nice last week by two points. Rennes have been having a great form recently and they won all of their last five league games. I still don't think that Nice will lose this game though. It is very likely to end up with a draw I think.

Interested match between Nice vs Rennes because two points left right now will give 3rd position place for Nice if success defeated Rennes, but actually Rennes although with away match keep try to get 3 points for getting champion league spot for next season by finish on 3rd position standing and have hope with 2nd place automatically will lead to champion league competition. Ligue 1 have 9 match left between top and bottom standing still competitive although with 1st standing as PSG with 12 points from Marseille.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 29, 2022, 06:07:40 PM

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PSG have failed in the Champions League this season and now only leaves regret amongst the fans. I don't really know how Pochettino is going to do with PSG while at Tottenham he's still an average looking coach. Several times he managed to bring Tottenham to the Champions League, but failed in the end so that experience was not enough to lift PSG's motivation to win.

Pochettino is not a coach who talks a lot on the touchline, he is more silent and evaluates the performance of his players on the bench and that kind of thing is not enough to get the players excited during the match. PSG need a coach who can change the dressing room atmosphere for the better and I don't think Pochettiono has that. I think he will be sacked after the season is over.

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Quote from: judas on March 29, 2022, 04:47:29 PM

I will be watching the Nice - Rennes game probably. Because it is an important game for the third place in the standings. It is important for the second place too in fact but it will be depending on the result Marseille will get this week. Rennes have got ahead of Nice last week by two points. Rennes have been having a great form recently and they won all of their last five league games. I still don't think that Nice will lose this game though. It is very likely to end up with a draw I think.

In the first meeting Nice managed to steal points at raner's cage, even though Nice lost in possession but Nice was able to silence Rannes with a score of 1-2, but this meeting is different from Ranners who will travel to Nice headquarters, I am optimistic that Nice can secure three points, although the current performance of the runners is good but I am optimistic that Nice can secure 3 points and can shift the runners position from 3rd position in the standings.

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Quote from: judas on March 29, 2022, 04:47:29 PM

I will be watching the Nice - Rennes game probably. Because it is an important game for the third place in the standings. It is important for the second place too in fact but it will be depending on the result Marseille will get this week. Rennes have got ahead of Nice last week by two points. Rennes have been having a great form recently and they won all of their last five league games. I still don't think that Nice will lose this game though. It is very likely to end up with a draw I think.

Their head to head is dominated by draws and also, I can say that Nice also have a better winning record in head to head. So yes, with the situation and momentum in the race for third place, of course Nice, which is the home team here, will be able to take advantage of the situation well. A win for Nice or a draw is very possible, because Rennes themselves could not win a match at home in their first match of the season. So this away match remains tough for Rennes even though indeed, Rennes is in a better position in the standings but that is not a guarantee and the gap is only 2 points.

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Quote from: ShowOff on March 29, 2022, 02:41:40 PM

I agree with some of the factors that made PSG fail in the Champions League this season, but when you talk about titles then I think it's a bit difficult to achieve even though you have a lot of experience.

True. In history, only Real Madrid were able to protect their trophy in Champions League. Others failed even they were still very strong in a season they had to protect their trophy. Barcelona, Bayern Munich and many other strong clubs failed. Barcelona in gold time with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta failed too and it is good evidence to support your opinion.

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Strong opponents, luck, team mentality, experience and strategy of the coach are some other reasons to judge a team's success in the Champions League. You might also be able to say why did Benfica qualify for the quarter-finals, why did Villareal qualify while Barcelona, Juventus, PSG, Inter, AC Milan and several other teams failed? You have to know what the reason is. There's a reason for everything, and I'm sure the few teams that made it to the quarter-finals now have the luck factor despite their best efforts.

In Champions League, you need both strength, good strategy and luck. Without luck support, it is impossible to win Champions Leauge. It is not like in national league that is long and lasts in many months. So if you make mistake, loss in a match or few ones, you can come back and even win trophy.

In Champions League, you don't have such opportunities in quarter, semi final or final. One or two matches decide result.

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Quote from: Roidz on March 29, 2022, 10:29:52 AM

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You are right. An experienced coach can change the overall condition of a team. .....

The coach has an important role in a team, not only to formulate a game strategy but the coach must also have the ability to unite the vision of players from different backgrounds in one team,...

Indeed, that is why a club's success will commonly also depend on what kind of coach it is. Although if the club has so many football stars in the club but the coach cannot tie them in one club, cannot control and manage them appropriately, this seems more to be difficult.
Moreover, a coach can also bring new types of strategy that are not listed o the paper previously, because this is only based on the match game direct views.
A professional coach doesn't depend on how long he has been a coach but how his track record and also performance in building and developing the team.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on March 29, 2022, 12:23:56 PM

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You just need a certain balance between the number of superstars and simpler level players. As they say, who should play the piano, and someone should carry this piano. I am very sorry for Pochettino, because Paris Saint-Germain did not deserve defeat in the Champions League match with Real Madrid, but a fatal combination of circumstances did not allow the Paris club to go to the next stage of the tournament and all this greatly blurred the impression and leaves a certain imprint on the domestic championship. It's not for nothing that Killian Mbappe recently commented on this that they can win 8-0 or 9-0 and still people will think about the Champions League. PSG are clearly waiting for a big restructuring in the near future and clearly without Pochettino and Mbappe. A lot depends on who will take the post of head coach and sports director.

PSG have had a rather poor performance in the Champions League and have had many matches in the domestic league where they have achieved a result with great difficulty, plus they were knocked out of the French Cup at an unexpectedly early stage. All this indicates that the defeat from Real Madrid was a completely natural result, and not an "unfair coincidence". PSG was only strong on paper, I don't understand why you are so downplaying Real Madrid, which proves its strength with results.

PSG's impressive performance in the French league cannot be transmitted to the Champions League and also the French cup where each of the two chickens they have to be eliminated at an earlier stage, who is the video of the French Cup of Nice victory there is a bit of luck because PSG have to lose in the French Cup. a penalty.shootout, but in the Champions League it was the opposite where they were eliminated by European giants real Madrid while burying PSG's hopes of becoming their first UCL champions

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I will be watching the Nice - Rennes game probably. Because it is an important game for the third place in the standings. It is important for the second place too in fact but it will be depending on the result Marseille will get this week. Rennes have got ahead of Nice last week by two points. Rennes have been having a great form recently and they won all of their last five league games. I still don't think that Nice will lose this game though. It is very likely to end up with a draw I think.

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Quote from: MAAManda on March 29, 2022, 12:59:17 AM

There are still 9 games left before Ligue 1 officially ends, apart from Marselle, Rennes and Nice, we also have Strasbourg there, they are only 5 points away from Marseille and with 9 games to go, I think it still makes sense that they have a chance to win. are in second place in the Ligue 1 standings at the end of the season. And as you said it is Marseille who has the greatest chance of finishing second, but let's see how it ends.

It would be a good fight for the second position, but also a bit boring to know that PSG is already the winners. I mean even the team that finishes second will not do much in the European competitions neither, so it makes no difference.

If it was about the team finishing higher up getting better and better, that would have been Lille. They finished champions last year and instead of getting better, they took that chance and sold some of their players for above what they really worth, all due to championship title, and made some money off that success and they are terrible right now all over again. If you are not going to get better, then becoming second means nothing.

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Quote from: mia_houston on March 29, 2022, 01:30:19 PM

PSG is not ready to talk much in the champions league this season, because there are many factors that have caused PSG failure this season, one of the main factors in my opinion is their lack of coach experience in European competitions, even though PSG are the favorites to penetrate the quarterfinals because having an even squad on every line, they also have a 1 goal advantage which they got in the first leg, but Pochettino inability to make them fail this season, and looks clearly different to what happened with madrid, although they are behind 2 goals on aggregate but ancelotti experience in seeing madrid problems in the match made madrid able to rise and make an extraordinary comeback, I think for now pochettino has not been able to provide extraordinary achievements for PSG, even though they won to get the Ligue 1 trophy, but the Ligue 1 trophy is not a difficult thing to get if we look at it current PSG squad and also his opponents who are in the league.

I agree with some of the factors that made PSG fail in the Champions League this season, but when you talk about titles then I think it's a bit difficult to achieve even though you have a lot of experience.

Strong opponents, luck, team mentality, experience and strategy of the coach are some other reasons to judge a team's success in the Champions League. You might also be able to say why did Benfica qualify for the quarter-finals, why did Villareal qualify while Barcelona, Juventus, PSG, Inter, AC Milan and several other teams failed? You have to know what the reason is. There's a reason for everything, and I'm sure the few teams that made it to the quarter-finals now have the luck factor despite their best efforts.

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That I think PSG is probably lacking is cooperation. I don't see any strong cooperation between the players. And that's the responsible of the coach. I don't see any strong cooperation between the players. It seems Pochettino might be sacked. Because, what PSG had in mind was the Champions Legue trophy. And they were knocked out by Real Madrid. Their only hope now is the Ligue 1 title, which they will certainly achieve. However, I have concluded that, having too many talented players is not necessary in a team.

Yes I agree with you, PSG is a team inhabited by many world stars, here the ego between players is very big, conditions like this must be handled by experienced coaches. I've been very unsure of Pochettino since he joined, let alone the big target that was placed on him, namely to win the champions league. for next season PSG must find the right replacement figure like Zinedine Zidane, because Zidane once carved his sweet ink with Real Madrid which is also inhabited by many great players in the world. Zinedine Zidane is very complete for PSG.

PSG is not ready to talk much in the champions league this season, because there are many factors that have caused PSG failure this season, one of the main factors in my opinion is their lack of coach experience in European competitions, even though PSG are the favorites to penetrate the quarterfinals because having an even squad on every line, they also have a 1 goal advantage which they got in the first leg, but Pochettino inability to make them fail this season, and looks clearly different to what happened with madrid, although they are behind 2 goals on aggregate but ancelotti experience in seeing madrid problems in the match made madrid able to rise and make an extraordinary comeback, I think for now pochettino has not been able to provide extraordinary achievements for PSG, even though they won to get the Ligue 1 trophy, but the Ligue 1 trophy is not a difficult thing to get if we look at it current PSG squad and also his opponents who are in the league.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on March 29, 2022, 12:23:56 PM

PSG have had a rather poor performance in the Champions League and have had many matches in the domestic league where they have achieved a result with great difficulty, plus they were knocked out of the French Cup at an unexpectedly early stage. All this indicates that the defeat from Real Madrid was a completely natural result, and not an "unfair coincidence". PSG was only strong on paper, I don't understand why you are so downplaying Real Madrid, which proves its strength with results.

Actually I don't want to argue about the result, but do you think PSG couldn't score in that match? I watched the game and I think PSG were just unlucky because 2 of Mbappe's goals were offside. The total goals in that match were 6, but unfortunately 2 PSG goals were canceled which gave Real Madrid the opportunity to take the win in the end.

Both teams had their weaknesses in that match, but Real Madrid certainly got more excited in front of the crowd when Benzema scored the first goal. I just want to be neutral on both teams, and probably wouldn't think PSG were so bad at starting the match. Now there is nothing more to argue about because maybe Real Madrid will also get into trouble after being drawn against Chelsea in the quarter-finals.

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Quote from: AndySt on March 28, 2022, 06:59:04 PM

You just need a certain balance between the number of superstars and simpler level players. As they say, who should play the piano, and someone should carry this piano. I am very sorry for Pochettino, because Paris Saint-Germain did not deserve defeat in the Champions League match with Real Madrid, but a fatal combination of circumstances did not allow the Paris club to go to the next stage of the tournament and all this greatly blurred the impression and leaves a certain imprint on the domestic championship. It's not for nothing that Killian Mbappe recently commented on this that they can win 8-0 or 9-0 and still people will think about the Champions League. PSG are clearly waiting for a big restructuring in the near future and clearly without Pochettino and Mbappe. A lot depends on who will take the post of head coach and sports director.

PSG have had a rather poor performance in the Champions League and have had many matches in the domestic league where they have achieved a result with great difficulty, plus they were knocked out of the French Cup at an unexpectedly early stage. All this indicates that the defeat from Real Madrid was a completely natural result, and not an "unfair coincidence". PSG was only strong on paper, I don't understand why you are so downplaying Real Madrid, which proves its strength with results.

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Quote from: BALIK on March 29, 2022, 10:09:01 AM

You are right. An experienced coach can change the overall condition of a team. See the situation of PSG and Manchester United. There are a lot of star players in the squad. But due to the inexperience of the coach, their condition is not stable now. Performance is very poor. On the other hand, despite having relatively few star players in the squads of Barcelona and Real Madrid, the overall condition of their team is now very good. We are fascinated by their performance.

The coach has an important role in a team, not only to formulate a game strategy but the coach must also have the ability to unite the vision of players from different backgrounds in one team, I see if Pochettino seems to have difficulty making PSG star players build chemistry with each other and star players have egos that are difficult for Pochetino to overcome so that makes them play like without direction, bringing in another coach who is experienced and has the ability to manage players is an alternative for PSG next season if they really want to be the best team in Europe.

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That I think PSG is probably lacking is cooperation. I don't see any strong cooperation between the players. And that's the responsible of the coach. I don't see any strong cooperation between the players. It seems Pochettino might be sacked. Because, what PSG had in mind was the Champions Legue trophy. And they were knocked out by Real Madrid. Their only hope now is the Ligue 1 title, which they will certainly achieve. However, I have concluded that, having too many talented players is not necessary in a team.

Yes I agree with you, PSG is a team inhabited by many world stars, here the ego between players is very big, conditions like this must be handled by experienced coaches. I've been very unsure of Pochettino since he joined, let alone the big target that was placed on him, namely to win the champions league. for next season PSG must find the right replacement figure like Zinedine Zidane, because Zidane once carved his sweet ink with Real Madrid which is also inhabited by many great players in the world. Zinedine Zidane is very complete for PSG.

Basically the number of star players in a team is not a problem as long as they have the right coach, who can have a good influence which of course makes the team bigger. We can see how Real Madrid have developed over time, they often have a lot of star players in the team but they are still successful in the UCL and not only in the local league. PSG still needs more time to create a team like Real Madrid, and PSG really just needs the right coach who can lower the ego of every player and change it with teamwork.

You are right. An experienced coach can change the overall condition of a team. See the situation of PSG and Manchester United. There are a lot of star players in the squad. But due to the inexperience of the coach, their condition is not stable now. Performance is very poor. On the other hand, despite having relatively few star players in the squads of Barcelona and Real Madrid, the overall condition of their team is now very good. We are fascinated by their performance.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on March 28, 2022, 06:50:10 PM

Quote from: blackened515 on March 28, 2022, 04:02:34 PM

That I think PSG is probably lacking is cooperation. I don't see any strong cooperation between the players. And that's the responsible of the coach. I don't see any strong cooperation between the players. It seems Pochettino might be sacked. Because, what PSG had in mind was the Champions Legue trophy. And they were knocked out by Real Madrid. Their only hope now is the Ligue 1 title, which they will certainly achieve. However, I have concluded that, having too many talented players is not necessary in a team.

Yes I agree with you, PSG is a team inhabited by many world stars, here the ego between players is very big, conditions like this must be handled by experienced coaches. I've been very unsure of Pochettino since he joined, let alone the big target that was placed on him, namely to win the champions league. for next season PSG must find the right replacement figure like Zinedine Zidane, because Zidane once carved his sweet ink with Real Madrid which is also inhabited by many great players in the world. Zinedine Zidane is very complete for PSG.

Basically the number of star players in a team is not a problem as long as they have the right coach, who can have a good influence which of course makes the team bigger. We can see how Real Madrid have developed over time, they often have a lot of star players in the team but they are still successful in the UCL and not only in the local league. PSG still needs more time to create a team like Real Madrid, and PSG really just needs the right coach who can lower the ego of every player and change it with teamwork.

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